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| 14 OCT 2004 at 5:35pm |
| Deleted User | Welcome to the forums, dude. All the reviewers are non-pro, btw... just thought I'd point that out... anyway, I'd add more but I just wanted to say -
You guys, be nice! He's new and you may not agree - lets give him a good welcome before plunging into a hotspot worthy tirade of death and destruction.
j/k
edit - er... did that come out right? Um... don't... agh.. forget it *goes back to work*
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 6:22pm |
| Deleted User | static jedi - did you perhaps play the European version instead of the American - I ask, because the spelling and phrasing of your post wasn't in very good English, so I thought perhaps you may have English as a second language. If so, the European version was definitely different from the American one. Please read the thread - "Hat's off to James Saighman" as it deals with BJ's review and discussion about it.
FGM
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 6:45pm |
staticjediIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 4
Joined: 14 OCT 2004
Status : Online | LOL...thanks for bashing my writing skills...that was clever...i hope it made you feel better...for the record i'm from NYC...it is the American version...and i am writing quickly while on a break at my job...just trying to have a good natured discussion, so i apologize for any mistakes...i still say reviewers can express an opinion without a blatant negativity, or a call for a patch that is simply NOT needed....
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 6:50pm |
| Deleted User | If what you say is true... what's your computer setup?
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:10pm |
staticjediIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 4
Joined: 14 OCT 2004
Status : Online | i believe my pc setup is a medium end system and it is:
p4 2.5
ati radeon 9800
1024 ram
anyway i'm only trying to help others who might be experiencing a difficult time with the gun portions of the game by suggesting the mouse option as it helped me. I thought Wanted was a pretty good adventure that deserves a fair shake....
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:23pm |
MikeAIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 1
Joined: 14 OCT 2004
Status : Online | Hey Everyone,
Mike here from DreamCatcher, the publisher of Wanted
Just quickly read over all the posts, ugh, looks like this shooting gallery game is causing a lot of problems!. id everyone buy the oil can from Willie in the saloon? Once you purchase this oil can, you then proceed to the shooting gallery, and replace the old can with your new one. (The old one is found at the fair grounds) If you then begin playing the game, you only have to play 4 times to beat the game. Score 15, 20, 25, 30) at which point the robot will drink your 'bad' oil .. and you will win the rifle! If you don't use the oil can, you will have to continue playing this game in order to beat the robot, and his scores can be extremely difficult to beat.
I'll look at further posts to see if this helps you all.
Take care!
Mike
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:26pm |
| Deleted User | The oil can has nothing to do with our problems, Mike. Read the review and the thread entitled "Hats Off to James Saighman."
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:32pm |
| Deleted User | Or rather - let's explain it here to make Mikes life easier.
According to a large number of people, a shooting section in Wanted provides problems in completing because targets don't appear fast enough. The time runs out and you're unable to make the quota of shots as it's impossible to do.
This is a bit of a "showstopping" bug and could prove a pain in returns for you if people can't get past it... I'd suggest checking in with Revistronic to see if they can look into the code for a patch, as in the original version this isn't a problem. It looks like a bug only found in your version.
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:38pm |
| Deleted User | I attempted the sequence in question 43 times and could not complete Round Four. The site's owner attempted it 20+ times with the same problem. My g/f gave it a good dozen tries. If you read the review at Quandaryland, their critic was also unable to complete Round 4 as is. However, he stumbled on the idea of lowering the game's detail setting to its minimum, which allowed him to succeed after 7-8 attempts. It would seem like the rendering is so complex in this sequence that unless you have a top of the line graphics card (well above the recommended requirements) or temporarily lower the detail level to its lowest setting, the program simply won't "draw" enough targets quickly enough for you to beat Round Four.
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:41pm |
| Deleted User | Could be a DX related problem... I notice you've got a DX8.1 compliant card, BJ, and static has a DX9. Don't know what Wanted uses (could even be OpenGL for all I know) but that might be worth looking into.
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:44pm |
| Deleted User | Huh? I have an ATI 9200 card. But the computer I played it on has a GeForce 4. Both meet the SysReq of "a 64 MB graphics card."
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:47pm |
| Deleted User | A 9200 isn't actually a proper DX9 card -
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/ATI_Radeon_9200/4505-8902_16-21238661-5.html
It RUNS DX9 games but doesn't really offer true DX9 support. Could be the problem.
edit - minimum specs aren't always worth going by with regards to how that game will run. All it says is that the game will run - although what framerates you'll get and performance based on other factors is a different matter.
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:48pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By staticjedi (14 OCT 2004 6:45pm)
LOL...thanks for bashing my writing skills...that was clever...i hope it made you feel better...for the record i'm from NYC...it is the American version...and i am writing quickly while on a break at my job...just trying to have a good natured discussion, so i apologize for any mistakes...i still say reviewers can express an opinion without a blatant negativity, or a call for a patch that is simply NOT needed....
The impression of bashing is yours - none was intended. Sorry if I offended you. I merely asked because it was determined that the European version was significantly different. You are new here, and perhaps don't realize just how many members we have from other countries. Sometimes spelling and grammar errors are our only clue that someone isn't American. Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. Again, sorry.
FGM
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:49pm |
| Deleted User | Errrr..... if the sound card SysReq is any indication, the game uses DX8.1.
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 7:50pm |
| Deleted User | I wouldn't know, it's just a suggestion that's worth looking into. btw I edited my above post.
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 8:09pm |
staticjediIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 4
Joined: 14 OCT 2004
Status : Online | i think squarejaw may be onto something with the DirectX theory...Now that I think about it, I had a Geforce 4 and had many problems with recent games as it is a DX8 Card...once i switched to the 9800 ATI (which is DX9 compliant) i saw a jump in performance for many of the newer games...
sorry if we got off to a bad start frygdmother...glad it is all cleared up
:-)
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 8:09pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
Posts : 5696
Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Hi Mike,
It would be great to know if they changed the shooting gallery code from the original Spanish version. I found the sequence to be fairly easy, plus I never read any comments about its difficulty from the Spanish audience. It looks as if it could be a new bug.
I'll be writing them too, but they'll likely get back sooner at you.
Thanks!
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 8:16pm |
| Deleted User | Well of course there was a jump in performance between the GeForce 4 and the ATI 9800. And it has nothing to do with DX compliance. Look at the difference in performance benchmarks. Hell, look at the difference in PRICE! [smiley=laughing.gif]
However, the SysReq call for nothing other than a 64 MB card (not even a "Recommended" type better than the "Necessary" type) and call for a DX8.1 compliant sound card. This would lead me to believe that the game utilizes DX 8.1
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 8:25pm |
| Deleted User | You'd be suprised, BJ! 9800's are now well affordable. I kinda wish I'd have waited a few month before getting mine - but then again, I'm a sneaky bast and didn't pay for it anyway. [smiley=rofl.gif]
Anyway, never believe recommended system requirements unless they're completely accounted for by a known source. They don't really take into account various setups and are better as a judgement rather than a law - just as an example, let's take X2: The Threat.
Microsoft® Windows® 98SE/ME/2000/XP
Pentium® III 800Mhz or equal
128MB RAM
32MB 3D graphics card (GeForce)
Soundcard
800MB free diskspace
4x CD-ROM
Mouse + Keyboard or Joystick (Optional support for force-feedback)
I can tell you from personal experience that this IS a crock of sh!t. And the same goes for most modern games, unfortunately! For the record, although a 9800 would improve framerates anyway with a game like this it would be negligible unless the coding was completely rubbish.
If there are DX issues, and it is difference between your card and static, then it's worth pointing out. It depends on the shaders the game uses, drivers you're using, card you're using etc. But it all does point to a coding issue - whether it's the engine or not only Revistronic can tell us.
It's just worth mentioning is all.
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| 14 OCT 2004 at 10:50pm |
plswdthSpace Cadet
Posts : 182
Joined: 21 JUL 2003
Status : Online | I didn't try round 5, but I tried round 4 twice and jerky mouse movements didn't allow me to win it. I changed my resolution to 640x480 (I had been playing in 1024x76 and it made the mouse cursor move MUCH smoother. I finished round 4 on the first try with no problems.
I don't think it has anything to do with whether the grahpics card is making the targets fast enough--you have to shoot them fast enough! Are you guys getting speed bonuses? I always get at least a 5x speed bonus, I've gotten up to a 13x speed bonus for hitting targets quickly in a row. I can only get these when the resoultion is set very low to make the mouse motion fluid. At the lowest resolution, the mouse cursor movement should be as fluid as you see in eg, Windows. The targets are only replaced as quickly as you can shoot them, so in order to succesfully win Round 4 you will need to shoot the targets quickly enough. Simply shooting each target that comes up while it is up is not enough for this round--for the other rounds, as long as you shoot the targets it provides, however slow you are, you can win. For this round you will need to hit targets as quickly as possible when they come up.
For the record, this is on a Radeon X300, which is a very low-power card (only cost $85) similar to the Radeon 9200 series.
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