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| 20 DEC 2002 at 4:27pm |
| Deleted User | mszv wrote:
There are ways to make a board very welcoming to all members, but it requires very active forum monitoring. You have to actively encourage a different mind set on the part of forum participants, your presence has to be on the board all the time, to set the right tone.
Well - I belong to another couple of forums - and have done for some time.
I don't post there.
I've been on this forum for 5 weeks - and find the participaters here made me very welcome - and I post because the posters here are fun ,
and I seem to think along the same lines as them.
They all seem to love adventure gaming as I do.
I simply cannot see why a 'lurker' would not want to post because there are already other people willing to post?
The problem lies with the 'lurker' - not the regualr posters - surely?
Do you honestly think the forum (a means of communicating ideas) would be better served by the regulars NOT posting?
Who would then be communicating ideas?
Do you think ther would be more posting rather than less?
I seriously can't believe that.
I really can't understand where you're coming from.
New blood is more than welcome to post - what on earth is stopping them?
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| 20 DEC 2002 at 6:10pm |
| Deleted User | I'm a little bit lurker at some times, not because I'm shy or anything. It's mainly because (here goes a list )
-it takes me an incredible amount of time to write a post
-I don't always feel the need to express myself on EVERY topic (it's OK to do so though )
-some people have really good opinions and I trust they will say them.
That's all I can think of at the moment. -humm small list...
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| 20 DEC 2002 at 6:33pm |
| Deleted User | Let's see..........most people, like me, would rather not post because other people have already said things that were in the 'lurkers' mind. This poster just happened to be thinking about what the lurker was thinking about, but, the poster got it first. At least that's my theory on why people don't post and we are always seeing the same new people every day. Correct me if I'm wrong or shoot me!
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| 20 DEC 2002 at 11:21pm |
NellieSorcerer Apprentice
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Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I think having a bunch of people who post frequently, and a large group of people who post infrequently is probably the pattern every busy forum in existence falls into after a while.
I have to say adventure game forums are some of the best-behaved forums on the internet, and this includes the JA+ forum. The flamewars have been drops in the ocean, as far as I can see. Although I have been away for a day, so perhaps World War 3 broke out when I wasn't looking.
[b]£1bn -[/b] Amount British government has pledged to paying off debt of poorest nations over next 10 years.&&&&[b]£5bn -[/b] Amount British government has already spent on Iraq campaign.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 1:19am |
MissBSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Dimi, I agree with you and will try to be more active on this forum.
I might as well be....I don't know any people in "real life" who play adventure games....ya'll are all I've got!
My name is Bethany and I'm the daughter of Gamergal/Michelle.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 7:50am |
GraveDiggerIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 26
Joined: 15 DEC 2002
Status : Online | Hi all!
I completely agree with Baron_Von_Ungern. The first time I posted when I joined the forum, I had a rude reply by one of these regular poster and it seemed to me as they are the Forum gods, who have huge number of post and they can't resist it even if their reply is limited to "Hi" or "Oh!" or "hmm.."
And in most cases, after like 3 or 4 replies the thread goes off topic and then the regulars start discussing there own crap. : :
Well, I am happy that this particular thread is one of its kind with good number of repliers...
To Regulars: Please spare this thread and let all those 600+ members reply here and let us all know the true reason of their not regularly posting in the forum.
P.S: This thread could be a great feed back to the forum moderators...
Regards
-abdulla
Hey, all I need now is another adventure game, okay?
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 8:30am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By GraveDigger (21 DEC 2002 7:50am)
The first time I posted when I joined the forum, I had a rude reply by one of these regular poster...
What exactly are you referring to?
I forgot my sig.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 9:02am |
alkis21Schattenjger
Posts : 2112
Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: GR
Status : Offline | Unfortunately, I only read the title of this topic and because when Dimi asks something I obey, I decided to take action before reading the posts. So I sacrificed a few virgins. Now I see it was a waste of time, but if anyone fancies a bucket of blood drop me an e-mail.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 2:37pm |
scoutPrivate Detective
Posts : 736
Joined: 2 NOV 2002
Status : Online | I post on 3 other forums + a newsgroup+ play the actual games+ 25 other things a day+work+play+travel. It's just a matter of focus. The people with all the posts are usually on the board no matter when I check in. It's their main focus or one of them.
FWIW, I've never gotten a rude reply from the regulars Don't they save thatl for each other? heh, heh... I mean why insult someone you don't know? What fun is that?
Also, I check in looking for info on the more obscure games. Usually it's the same 25 games over and over, or Sierra this or Lucasarts that or what socks do you wear when playing, etc, etc, so I don't really pay that much attention. Most boards do this. You just have to pick and choose. It's the nature of the beast.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 3:43pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (21 DEC 2002 8:30am)
What exactly are you referring to?
after checking gd's previous posts, i have a strong feeling he's refering to my reply to his post about rpgs... i might be wrong of course, but it's the only one that fits... Click here to read my "rude" answer... some ppl just don't like being corrected i guess :
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 3:52pm |
dimidimidimiSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By alkis21 (21 DEC 2002 9:01am)
Unfortunately, I only read the title of this topic and because when Dimi asks something I obey, I decided to take action before reading the posts. So I sacrificed a few virgins. Now I see it was a waste of time, but if anyone fancies a bucket of blood drop me an e-mail.
Hehe... you can call your game now ..GK4 - blood of the innocent, blood of the virgins...
I think it's a pity that so many people don't want to post because of things that happened in the past. Maybe some people in here (including myself) could try to be a little bit less snobbish.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 3:53pm |
ColemanLanternIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 5
Joined: 25 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Thats normal. Every forum has a handfull of people who participate frequently, and a great mass of silent participants, and not everyone wants to become a forum-god. But I have something to complain about: why do I need to use the Microsoft Internet Explorer to participate in this forum? I thought the Internet is standardised and open for any browser and operating system. All just a fake? So, anytime I want to post to this forum, why do I need to change my browser and use the insafe IE? I don't know if I would post more frequently if there wasn't this annoying hurdle, but it is simply unpractically and not inviting for a non IE user to post a short message.
ColemanLantern
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 7:23pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7277
Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By dimidimidimi (21 DEC 2002 3:52pm)
I think it's a pity that so many people don't want to post because of things that happened in the past. Maybe some people in here (including myself) could try to be a little bit less snobbish.
i disagree with you dimi, i don't think anyone here's snobbish (incl yourself)... in fact this is probably THE ONLY forum that's so welcome to new ppl... you should see the flaming a newbie gets on other forums if he/she "dares" to interupt the seniors or say smth that is wrong or already known... i think this is an overreaction
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 8:30pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By ColemanLantern (21 DEC 2002 3:53pm)
TBut I have something to complain about: why do I need to use the Microsoft Internet Explorer to participate in this forum?
That's news to me. I never used MSIE to post here and look how well it worked for me For the record, I use Mozilla (currently 1.1 and 1.2).
I forgot my sig.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 8:33pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Aya_Brea (21 DEC 2002 3:43pm)
some ppl just don't like being corrected i guess :
That's a well known fact But I still don't see what's rude about it.
BTW did you notice that you're (almost?) a Forum God?
I forgot my sig.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 9:18pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7277
Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (21 DEC 2002 8:33pm)
That's a well known fact But I still don't see what's rude about it
i don't either... but if you see the posts mine was the only one that came "close"
BTW did you notice that you're (almost?) a Forum God?
am now!... guess now i fit the above description even more :
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 9:55pm |
GraveDiggerIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 26
Joined: 15 DEC 2002
Status : Online | Aya_Brea! I suggest you MUST play some old IFs, if you've some spare time and a lot of patience, which I doubt.
I recall a saying here, "If a person calls you donkey, just don't bother but if two persons call you donkey then you better buy yourself a saddle."
Well, all my statements were true and I can see that this very thread is also poisoned now. **LOL**
Regards
-abdulla
Hey, all I need now is another adventure game, okay?
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 10:13pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By GraveDigger (21 DEC 2002 9:54pm)
Well, all my statements were true and I can see that this very thread is also poisoned now. **LOL**
You are totally wrong about Aya_Brea but I'm sure he can defend himself on his own...
But could you please answer my question? Who was rude to you? Could you please point out the offending post?
I forgot my sig.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 10:47pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7277
Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | thank you Michal but actually there's nothing to defend myself against
Originally Posted By GraveDigger (21 DEC 2002 9:54pm)
Aya_Brea! I suggest you MUST play some old IFs, if you've some spare time and a lot of patience, which I doubt.
thanx for the suggestion... i haven't got the slightest clue on what this has to do with the subject but since you mention it i love txt advs (IFs if you want) and have played a lot in the past
I recall a saying here, "If a person calls you donkey, just don't bother but if two persons call you donkey then you better buy yourself a saddle."
Well, all my statements were true and I can see that this very thread is also poisoned now. **LOL**
WITHOUT flaming you, i think you have no idea what you're talking about... if there's a person "calling me a donkey" it's you and you alone so according to your words i shouldn't bother... but...... i saw your post about someone being rude to you (someone from the "forum gods" like you said, who by the time you posted were only Michal and Rael) and i was curious to see what they said, cause i know they wouldn't be "rude"... so i looked at ALL your previous posts and the replies you got and there was NOONE (ABSOLUTELY NOONE) that was rude to you... so then i figured (unless of course someone was REALLY rude to you and a mod deleted that post) you probably considered me correcting you as "rudeness"! so i suppose you belong to those ppl who do not want to be corrected and if they are they consider the person who corrected them "rude" (or anything else)... so unless you can GIVE A LINK of a trully RUDE response to you what i say is a fact, and you indeed have no idea what you're talking about... i gave the link in my above post (here it is again: http://www.justadventure.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=AdvGameDiscuss;action=display;num=1040022693;start=7) of my response that you (probably) considered rude so that anyone can read it and draw their own conclusions
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 10:53pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Aya_Brea (21 DEC 2002 10:47pm)
i saw your post about someone being rude to you (someone from the "forum gods" like you said, who by the time you posted were only Michal and Rael) and i was curious to see what they said, cause i know they wouldn't be "rude"...
Thank you, Aya - if you were actually a girl, I would kiss you :-*
I guess a lot of people is very sensitive :
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| 21 DEC 2002 at 11:52pm |
sennebecGuild Master
Posts : 3334
Joined: 15 NOV 2004
Location: US, maine
Status : Offline | well... i think we're all a pretty friendly lot
whatever is the topic, it's always flooded by the same members, usually with long, very long answers
some of us just can't help pontificating...
I haff the perfect solution! Reset the post counters so that the "big talkers" will get a taste of what it's like to be a newbi.
Like these gods. They're getting a bit too uppity in my opinion. A slashing cut of 1000 posts from their count will make them more 'umble.
i'm afraid there is no cure for the perpetual blabber mouth...
To Regulars: Please spare this thread and let all those 600+ members reply here and let us all know the true reason of their not regularly posting in the forum
i see no logical reason to ask us not to reply to matters that directly concern us...
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| 22 DEC 2002 at 12:32am |
mszvPrivate Detective
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Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I am so, so sorry to see how this thread turned out.
If someone on this board says they got a rude reply, I would recommend that for those who post a lot (and I'm a semi-regular poster myself), you don't go back and try to find the offending post so you can, what, defend yourselves? Prove the other person was wrong? That is not a way for new people to feel welcome. If I was a regular who posted a lot, I would be encouraged by the number of people who said they felt welcome on the board, and I would leave it at that.
It might also be helpful to recognize that not everyone wants to be criticized about every little thing, when they first post. So, exercising a little tact when you post is not the worst thing in the world to do. I also get the feeling that, for some people on this forum, posting is a contest, and darn, if they aren't going to win! They have to prove they are smarter, or more knowledgeable, or I don't know what. Personally, I abhor that mind set, I just detest it. You may notice this is the strongest language I have ever used on this forum - suffice it to say I am well and truely irritated.
Interestingly enough, aside from those horrendous political rants in the "off-topic" forum, people appear to be nicer when they post in "off topic". I don't generally post there, but occasionally I read it.
I also think it's easy to develop friendships with people who post on this board. I have a few friends I made on an online forum. I suggest that, if you find you are having a dialogue with only one or two people on a thread, that you take it off the board, and correspond with each other outside of the Just Adventure forum. A thread where the same people respond to each other over and over is not particularly open to other people who want to post. Many times, people don't want to intrude on what they regard as a private conversation, even if it is said on a public forum. I've seen a few instances where people start threads and do their darn best to get everyone's opinions. Those are the threads that are a joy to read, and are a joy to contribute to.
It will be interesting to see how this forum ends up. First, per Randy, we didn't have good moderators on the Just Adventure forum. Now, we have moderators who moderate "lightly", and tend not to intrude. Six months from now, it will be interesting to see how this all works out, and what changes have taken place.
GraveDigger, please continue to post. I for one, would like to see what you have to say.
Regards, mszv
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| 22 DEC 2002 at 12:53am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By mszv (22 DEC 2002 12:31am)
If someone on this board says they got a rude reply, I would recommend that for those who post a lot (and I'm a semi-regular poster myself), you don't go back and try to find the offending post so you can, what, defend yourselves? Prove the other person was wrong?
No, my friend, what Aya was proving is that nobody was rude at Gravedigger - I'm not saying he lied but maybe he was wrong.
Of course, of course, he should defend himself, no matter if the accusing person is a regular or a newcomer.
Interestingly enough, aside from those horrendous political rants in the "off-topic" forum, people appear to be nicer when they post in "off topic". I don't generally post there, but occasionally I read it.
Well, since I participated in that thread you're referring to, I must say that it was a very interesting discussion. Why do you say it's horrible? You don't agree with other members? You felt insulted in any way? Why didn't you post there then? You don't have what it takes to engage that conversation?
Perhaps you didn't noticed that the thread was started by a newcomer - you're not being very nice when you say that thread is horrendous. Think about that.
I also think it's easy to develop friendships with people who post on this board. I have a few friends I made on an online forum. I suggest that, if you find you are having a dialogue with only one or two people on a thread, that you take it off the board, and correspond with each other outside of the Just Adventure forum.
You can't be serious - this is a forum, a public forum. Even in one-to-one discussions anyone can interrupt stating his opinion. I would like you to point one single post where a newcomer or a person that "interrupted" a discussion was punished.
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| 22 DEC 2002 at 1:18am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By mszv (22 DEC 2002 12:31am)
If someone on this board says they got a rude reply, I would recommend that for those who post a lot (and I'm a semi-regular poster myself), you don't go back and try to find the offending post so you can, what, defend yourselves? Prove the other person was wrong? That is not a way for new people to feel welcome.
I guess I'm going to irritate you some more by disagreeing with you but there is no way around that. If I'm unhappy about something I will say so and I fully expect everyone else to do the same. I prefer a direct approach.
GraveDigger complained about rude treatment. I looked back at the posts and couldn't find anything remotely resembling rudeness. So there are two possibilities:
1) GraveDigger considers rude something that I don't. Well, in that case I'd like to know about it so I could avoid that in the future.
2) GraveDigger is the rude one by throwing around accusations without any basis (perhaps unintentionally).
I don't know which is the case here (and I consider the first possibility far more likely) but I'd really like to find out. What's wrong with that? Am I missing something obvious? If I do, please tell me.
A thread where the same people respond to each other over and over is not particularly open to other people who want to post. Many times, people don't want to intrude on what they regard as a private conversation, even if it is said on a public forum.
But this is a public forum and anyone can post whenever they want to. Please don't feel constrained, no conversation here is private. Alternate opinions are always welcome.
GraveDigger, please continue to post. I for one, would like to see what you have to say.
So would I
I forgot my sig.
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