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| 16 DEC 2002 at 4:25am |
| Deleted User | I find Grim Fandango difficult, but fair
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 12:04pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | That reminds me of Discworld.
It's difficult...and it isn't fair... :'(
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 4:27pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Ron - Myst 3 is not easy....
I give it an 7,5 of difficult level ......homogeniously distribuited through the entine game.
I solved it in 5 months "without" walkthroughs.
M3 is very funny to play........go and buy it.
Yes, Exile is easiest than Riven.
 &&&&[move]Actually playing SHIVERS and Rhem 2[/move]&&
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 4:35pm |
| Deleted User | Soz Jarmarchand - I feel that I'm starting to become your textual arch-nemesis... :-[
But I have to say that I found Exile much too easy. I completed it within a few weeks, and came away dissapointed with it's shortness.
I really enjoyed it, though, and did get stumped at the bit where you have to raise the elevator to reach the cogs and gears. Yup, the easy puzzle. Perhaps it was so easy it went round in a loop and became hard?!
I also found the technological puzzle with the flying ship rather difficult, but got there in the end...
Roll on the next one, though! Heard it's in the making, can't wait...
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 9:46pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Two of the most difficult adventures ever:
Maupiti Island
Zak McKracken And The Alien Mindbenders
I consider both of them have logical puzzles (fair, if you prefer).
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 9:55pm |
RonSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By jamarchand (16 DEC 2002 4:27pm)
Ron - Myst 3 is not easy....
I give it an 7,5 of difficult level ......homogeniously distribuited through the entine game.
I solved it in 5 months "without" walkthroughs.
M3 is very funny to play........go and buy it.
Yes, Exile is easiest than Riven.
SOME SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T PLAYED RIVEN YET. (But those aren't to be found on this forum anyways...)
ah come on! I played it myself. (But for some reason my -dutch- version had an error on the last disc... So i'm looking for an english version now...) Myst3 is fun, but it's nothing compared to riven. Riven is extremely difficult - but fair! - because you have immediately access to almost every location on the islands. I loved the way in which everything comes together at the end in 'Riven'. I have referred to an hint-file twice; both 'pixel-hunting'-problems which i hate.
Myst, and also Myst 3 are so much easier because of the different books you play every time. I finished all but the last chapter of Myst3 (because of that bad cd...) in about one and a half week.. No, i didn't use any walkthrough.
By the way.. Other games are easy too, a lot of times because they use 'interactive areas' in which the cursor changes. (Syberia, Amerzone, Atlantis).
I hope some people can give me some more ideas. (By the way, i'm glad to be stuck in 'Timelapse' right now!)
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 10:54pm |
| Deleted User | I hear you Ron - that whole linked puzzle thing was fantastic - the whole group of islands and the "5" theme, the fact that everything touches everything else, was a masterstroke of games design...
And people say it was just a bunch of pictures linked together! Bet they didn't finish it - if they did they're hypocrits...
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 11:12pm |
InieJourneyman
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Status : Online | Discworld Noir was difficult but fair. I feel the same way about Atlantis II. Quite different games, both really good.
Overall I think the Lucasarts games have a really nice balance. I'm talking about the Indygames (apart from the last one but, hey, there's always a God-mode), Loom (if you can still find it), The Dig, Grim Fandango etc.).
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 11:19pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | To me, Riven still be the most immersive and climatic adventure produced even today.
Graphically stunning, superb sound and soundtrack.....unforgeteble experience.
&&&&[move]Actually playing SHIVERS and Rhem 2[/move]&&
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 11:25pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Aaaah a Pro-Riven thread - my turn
Originally Posted By monkeybone (16 DEC 2002 10:53pm)
I hear you Ron - that whole linked puzzle thing was fantastic - the whole group of islands and the "5" theme, the fact that everything touches everything else, was a masterstroke of games design...
Designing puzzles that don't fit into a storyline is a fairly easy task...
And people say it was just a bunch of pictures linked together! Bet they didn't finish it - if they did they're hypocrits...
...and don't call me a hypocrite, you hear me!
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| 16 DEC 2002 at 11:45pm |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | unforgeteble experience
Yes, try as I might I just can't manage to forget it. I did finish the game (and the same goes for Myst) - but I never enjoyed the still photo presentation.
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| 17 DEC 2002 at 2:35am |
GargoyleIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I think Riven is a brilliant game. It absolutely exceeds any other similar games
I love the fact that many say that Riven is eye candy alone and utterly unengaging because they are so entirely mistaken. PC Gamer's 40% still makes me chuckle.
I think the big problem is that Riven was considered an adventure game. This simultaneously spawned genre-corrupting clones and angered adventure gaming purists who insist on storylines
I should think that if adventure games are novels, Riven is a very large and very beautiful coffee table book with lingering threads that spin themselves beautifully for those who care to look.
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| 17 DEC 2002 at 3:15am |
sennebecGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Gargoyle (17 DEC 2002 2:35am)
I should think that if adventure games are novels, Riven is a very large and very beautiful coffee table book with lingering threads that spin themselves beautifully for those who care to look.
beautifully put, gargoyle...
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| 17 DEC 2002 at 3:37am |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Ron (16 DEC 2002 9:55pm)
By the way.. Other games are easy too,
Hey Ron......maybe you should try a 'real-life' adventure, if the pc games are too easy for you. We had one right here in the off topic forum....The Aya & Michal saga...... now.....that's what you call 'adventure'....heh
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| 17 DEC 2002 at 5:09pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By monkeybone (16 DEC 2002 4:35pm)
But I have to say that I found Exile much too easy. I completed it within a few weeks, and came away dissapointed with it's shortness.
The two negative points in M3 (for me)are:
Non-hard puzzlers and the ingenuous roller coaster in Amateria (that giant pinbal, is, at least, few inspirated)
&&&&[move]Actually playing SHIVERS and Rhem 2[/move]&&
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