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| 21 AUG 2004 at 10:41pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Forrest Gump turned an outsider because he said - Riven is rococo-surrealistic!
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| 21 AUG 2004 at 11:02pm |
Jeroen StoutSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Uhm. This thread is getting so confusing they aught to find a new word for it
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| 21 AUG 2004 at 11:34pm |
| Deleted User | Spazmoideologichand?
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| 21 AUG 2004 at 11:39pm |
Jeroen StoutSchattenjger
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Status : Online | No seriously. This thread is SPAM should be locked. You guys only do this for post count and...
Why does this sound so familiar, SJH
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| 21 AUG 2004 at 11:40pm |
| Deleted User | I agree, it should be locked, we've gone past the point of no return and ran out of fuel ages ago.
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| 22 AUG 2004 at 2:42am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SquarejawHero (21 AUG 2004 11:33pm)
Spazmoideologichand?
That's about as low as it gets - :
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| 22 AUG 2004 at 9:47am |
JA-Staff2Private Detective
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Status : Online | All,
This thread won't be locked as the subject could be continued and the flaming has died down. It will be locked if current attitudes are perpetuated, however, so please think before you post.
JA-Staff2
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| 22 AUG 2004 at 4:18pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Anne (21 AUG 2004 10:04pm)
What a crosspatch.Can I describe it as minimalistic
surrealism with a touch of Edouard Munch giving it a certain darkness?
Funny that you mention him, Did you steal his paintings?
Yes, that happened a few hours ago, really.
There are two possibilities here:
Either JM is serious about everything he produced in this thread so far which means he's high up on some throne, wielding the Ultimate Truth in every matter.
Or he's getting kick out of provocation every chance he gets.
Either way, it's pretty pathetic. It doesn't matter in the long run.
Sometimes things can be so easy...
But his comments about Japanese are very interesting. I think there's truth in what he says. I really wonder that he knows so much "childish" things in Japan...maybe he was childish once and something happened...I'm thinking about this...no, it's a waste of time, I stop.
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 22 AUG 2004 at 7:52pm |
Speaker4DeadIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | It's really funny JM, that you go on as though you were at the height of culture, because I guarantee you that almost every art critic in the world, not to mention almost any connoseiur of art, would say that a painter with an arresting, fascinating, and original style was much better than a painter who could only recreate the world.
For someone obsessed with art, you seem to have very little understanding of it.
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| 25 AUG 2004 at 8:37am |
MikekellyPrivate Detective
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If you like FMV games, they now are released for DVD players.
In fact, many old PC FMV games are being cleaned up and released on DVD video.
Needless to say, if your PC has a DVD player (like mine) DVD Video adventure games will play just fine.
New FMV games on DVD are being released all the time!
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| 25 AUG 2004 at 9:16pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Mikekelly (25 AUG 2004 8:37am)
If you like FMV games, they now are released for DVD players.
Where?
If you're thinking of Point of View, Tender Loving Care, Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective, or Dracula Unleashed, I'm not interested in those. There isn't enough interactivity with the gameworld in those particular games to suit me. Do you know of any besides those four?
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| 26 AUG 2004 at 12:45am |
MikekellyPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Try Stab In The Dark and Silent Steel. Both are very good!
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| 26 AUG 2004 at 5:21pm |
LOGANIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | The golden area of FMV was right before realtime 3D broke through becoming a standard in games.
Most of the time realtime 3D marjonets are not as exiting as a real human.
Sadly the industry forces itself into 'innovation' and production at the lowest possible costs.
I thought with the coming of DVD real actors were a possibility again. Real worlds with real detail. I guess we have to wait a little more untill Hollywood takes over
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| 26 AUG 2004 at 5:36pm |
Fibber_McGeeSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Just how many FMV games have you actually played?
I owned a SegaCD. I've played dozens.
As far as excitement goes, I'd take most 3D characters over the actors in most FMV games any day. At least the 3D characters have an excuse for looking and acting like puppets.
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| 26 AUG 2004 at 11:08pm |
MikekellyPrivate Detective
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Actually, currently ALL types of adventure games are being produced:
Text
FMV
Cartoon
3D CGI
In fact, "The Missing" a just released adventure game from TAC was FMV.
Got Game has at least one FMV game - Conspiracies that is both a new release adventure game and has some good reviews.
I play all types of adventure games, all are fun to me.
I perfer third person, but I do play a fair amount of first person too.
And two classic series:
Zork: Nemesis
Zork: Grand Inquisitor
Zork: Return to Zork
Myst
Riven
Myst III: Exile
Use alot of FMV with beautiful cut scenes as the result.
FMV is here to stay, no clear style of adventure game dominates currently.
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| 28 AUG 2004 at 5:28am |
AllanonJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SquarejawHero (21 AUG 2004 11:33pm)
Spazmoideologichand?
Is that really a twenty letter word !!?? The audacityof some ... cheers !
You only live once , but , if you live right , once is enough . Being happy takes work ...
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| 13 DEC 2004 at 11:42pm |
overcomeSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | I'm sure now that DVD-Roms are finally being used for PC games, we will see more FMV incorporated again. Partly why it was never used muchwas because FMV takes up so much storage capacity.
NOW, about acting . . .
As an animator I can say that most games do not have very good animators working on them. If you have pixar-level animators working on game characters as well as good voice acting, you could have wonderfully living characters. noboday could say that Shrek or Toy story should have been done in FMV. . .
That said I love seeing FMV in FIRST PERSON adventures such as Myst and Pandora Directive.
So . . . better animators and better voice acting makes for great 3D characters.
But FMV is still a great medium for certain types of games.
D
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| 14 DEC 2004 at 12:30am |
| Deleted User | Well, I guess the trend more goes to FMV like Final Fantasy Advent Children or Spirits within.
It would be possible to make real great looking 3D characters with the later Poser versions but strangely only few game designers especially from adventure games use them at least not the high detailled models I've seen on the net.
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| 14 DEC 2004 at 12:42am |
overcomeSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Most animators I know agree that Final fantasy the movie was proof that high realism does not make for more lively characters.
We need BETTER animation, not more realistic details. It could be a very cartoonish character, but good animation is what will bring it to life.
GOOD ANIMATION=GOOD ACTING
Originally Posted By Ogre (14 DEC 2004 12:29am)
Well, I guess the trend more goes to FMV like Final Fantasy Advent Children or Spirits within.
It would be possible to make real great looking 3D characters with the later Poser versions but strangely only few game designers especially from adventure games use them at least not the high detailled models I've seen on the net.
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| 14 DEC 2004 at 4:37am |
Orange_BratIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I'll never play a FMV even if they managed to snag the top actors in the world to be in it. It just doesn't appeal to me, and this means I'll never play GK2 even though all I hear are accolades when it is discussed. Different strokes for different folks.
Most animators I know agree that Final fantasy the movie was proof that high realism does not make for more lively characters.
Ogre's reference to Final Fantasy was to Advent Children which is the new CG movie that is a sequel to Final Fantasy VII, the game. It looks amazing.
[url=http://www.thedisenfranchised.com/]The Disenfranchised™[/url] - coming later
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