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| 1 AUG 2004 at 6:16pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | ROFL! Doesn't look like the signatories are taking this petition very seriously
I forgot my sig.
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 6:28pm |
bdeckedSchattenjger
Posts : 1620
Joined: 14 OCT 2011
Status : Online | Hm... i can't seem to read any of them... I click on the numbers and nothing happens...
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 7:32pm |
| Deleted User | Check your IE settings. That shouldn't be right...
@Michal - I kinda guessed this would appeal to you! Amongst the cack there are some wonderful comments though...
Like my son said, quit perverting the word of God and using it to fit your agenda. This game is fine. It's God approved. I have a bolt of lightning for every Christian who thinks otherwise.
Ok guys I have seen the light. I should have never started this petition. I know now I am a stupid ignorant Christian who likes to try and make decisions for other people. I'll mind my own business from now on. So sorry. Us Christians can be so stupid sometimes trying to force our beliefs and the rest of the world. So sorry, I'll go kill myself now.
I rebuke you Doom 3, evil will be unleashed when this game is released. We must do everything in our power to see that this day does not come. Someone call Michael Moore to do a documentary about this travesty of a game being made. Whatever you do dont buy this devil worshiping game, show your stance and get Half Life 2 instead a non devil worshipng game not made with your tax money like Doom 3 really is.
DOOM 3 HAS BEEN PROVEN TO CAUSE MALE PATTERN BALDNESS! DO NOT - REPEAT- DO NOT BUY DOOM 3. IF YOU MUST USE IT, PLEASE PIRATE IT INSTEAD. THE WAREZ COPY CAUSES LESS HAIR LOSS.
BTW don't look at any of the URL's. I just made that mistake... there are some pretty sick people out there! :-/
What with all the current UK Daily Mail outrage at Manhunt, Doom 3 didn't pick a good time to get released. Said newspaper is now runnning a campaign in this country to get rid of all games like GTA 3, Doom 3 (you only kill demons!), Unreal Tournament 2004 (apparently, cartoony games where you cannot die are "evil" blah blah etc. etc.
In the words of Mr T - I pity the fool that reads the Dail Mail.
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 7:54pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By SquarejawHero (1 AUG 2004 7:32pm)
@Michal - I kinda guessed this would appeal to you! Amongst the cack there are some wonderful comments though...
Yeah, I randomly clicked on a page and the first comment I saw was 2478 - I swear I had no idea she did that! But you're right, the petition (and the comments) appeals to me because it's so wonderfully absurd and pointless. It's almost poetic.
There's a funny comment from "Gabe Newell" telling people to buy HL2 instead. And I liked this one: "Oh dear, don't you have anything better to do? Would you prefer it that kids were out on the streets with guns shooting each other instead of at home shooting a computer generated monster?"
BTW don't look at any of the URL's. I just made that mistake... there are some pretty sick people out there! :-/
I didn't even try - but thanks for the warning anyway!
What with all the current UK Daily Mail outrage at Manhunt, Doom 3 didn't pick a good time to get released.
To be honest, I don't think the guys at id give a damn about Daily Mail Hmm, I wonder how many Daily Mail readers will play Doom 3?
I forgot my sig.
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 8:39pm |
KsandraSchattenjger
Posts : 2459
Joined: 2 APR 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By SquarejawHero (1 AUG 2004 7:32pm)
What with all the current UK Daily Mail outrage at Manhunt, Doom 3 didn't pick a good time to get released. Said newspaper is now runnning a campaign in this country to get rid of all games like GTA 3, Doom 3 (you only kill demons!), Unreal Tournament 2004 (apparently, cartoony games where you cannot die are "evil" blah blah etc. etc.
Oh, I'm sure the developers must be quaking in their boots : Honestly, I find this more funny than anything else - the Mail is just so, so predictable.
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 10:07pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
Posts : 5892
Joined: 4 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By MichalN (1 AUG 2004 7:53pm)
But you're right, the petition (and the comments) appeals to me because it's so wonderfully absurd and pointless.
Yes, it's a petition. :
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 11:13pm |
dombrewerGuild Master
Posts : 3103
Joined: 19 JAN 2003
Status : Offline | The story was pretty grim - this 17 year old hammering and knifing his "friend" to death because he was copying something from "Manhunt", not pleasant reading, but yes, no great surprise to see the Daily Sh*t-rag taking a reactionary, morally high-ground stand. "Ban all these filthy games that pervert our children, blah blah..."
What they failed to take into account, the same as the censors of the "video nasties" in the 80s, is that a seventeen year old must already have a serious moral deficiency if he thinks beating someone to death with a hammer is cool, or acceptable in real life.
The electronics retailers Dixons have now boycotted the game - like anyone could really give a damn what Dixons think. In fact that puts me off ever shopping there.
[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/detective.gif[/img][b]Playing:[/b] &&[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/blahblah.gif[/img][b]Reading:[/b] &&[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/whistle.gif[/img][b]Listening:[/b] &&[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/indie.gif[/img][b]Watching:[/b]
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 11:26pm |
| Deleted User | Funny thing is, for reporters they don't even research their material. Manhunt features no such killings. It does a line in platic back homicide though which is more than enough for me to hack.
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| 1 AUG 2004 at 11:55pm |
dombrewerGuild Master
Posts : 3103
Joined: 19 JAN 2003
Status : Offline | Hmm. Not played it, and it's admittedly not one my wish list. Is it any good, or as unpleasant as it sounds?
[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/detective.gif[/img][b]Playing:[/b] &&[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/blahblah.gif[/img][b]Reading:[/b] &&[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/whistle.gif[/img][b]Listening:[/b] &&[img]http://www.justadventure.com/public_html/yabbfiles/Smilies/indie.gif[/img][b]Watching:[/b]
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| 2 AUG 2004 at 12:47am |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
Posts : 2391
Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Status : Online | The things they didn't consider about the Manhunt incident...
1- Rockstar Games is one of the most accessable computer game companies to work for. They employ a LOT of freelance writers and artists. That makes it a really good place to get a foot up into the buisness.
2- Nobody questioned why a young teen kid was allowed by his parents to play and own an 18+ game.
3- There have been numerous experiments that show no correlation between games and children's behaviour, or the fact that children can easily and intuitively tell the difference between reality and fantasy. All of these are neglected in favour of shock media reporting.
4- Also neglected are the literally BILLIONS of people that play these games, and then do NOT run out on murder sprees.
5- Also neglected is the fact that Hitler didn't play Doom.
I mean, it's so much EASIER for someone to say "My child played this game and suddenly, spontaniously, mutated into a demented murderous demon" than to say something honest like "Even though it's obvious his parents were neglectful in allowing him to enguage in unsuitable entertainment for him, he was still ultimately old enough to be responsible for his own actions. The only thing responsible for his choice to murder someone was himself."
Oh and Dom - it's an okay game. Gameplay's a lot like Blood Omen 2, storyline's kinda basic.. Aside from the atmosphere (very grimey punk-noir), not a lot stands out about it. It's okay, but wouldn't get more than 6/10 from me. You're not missing anything.
[url=http://www.justadventure.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1136331866/0#0]GAMES FOR TRADE!![/url]
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| 2 AUG 2004 at 8:02am |
| Deleted User | Wolfies being generous. I thought it was rancid, not really about the content (I can handle stuff like that, especially if it's PS2 blocky 3D) but the gameplay was just boring. Like a crap Splinter Cell.
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| 2 AUG 2004 at 7:01pm |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
Posts : 2391
Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By SquarejawHero (2 AUG 2004 8:02am)
Wolfies being generous.
True, but I place a LOT of importance on a game's atmosphere.
[url=http://www.justadventure.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1136331866/0#0]GAMES FOR TRADE!![/url]
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| 2 AUG 2004 at 7:40pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
Posts : 4876
Joined: 9 JUL 2003
Location: 0
Status : Offline | Doom 3 Review.
PC Gamer US reviews Doom III (94%)
You can read the review here.
http://forums.firingsquad.com/firingsquad/board/message?board.id=pc&message.id=4283
Warning there are some spoilers.
Dear Diary, My teenage angst bullsh*t now has a bodycount.
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| 2 AUG 2004 at 7:52pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Lucien21 (2 AUG 2004 7:39pm)
Doom 3 Review.
PC Gamer US reviews Doom III (94%)
You can read the review here.
http://forums.firingsquad.com/firingsquad/board/message?board.id=pc&message.id=4283
Warning there are some spoilers.
[smiley=scared.gif]
This looks GOOD!
In 30 years I'll buy it, when I'll have the right computer.
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| 3 AUG 2004 at 12:42pm |
NellieSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 359
Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Best signature so far:
37. Flight Officer Ellen Ripley - I say we take off and nuke the game from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
[b]£1bn -[/b] Amount British government has pledged to paying off debt of poorest nations over next 10 years.&&&&[b]£5bn -[/b] Amount British government has already spent on Iraq campaign.
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| 3 AUG 2004 at 10:36pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
Posts : 5892
Joined: 4 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Nellie (3 AUG 2004 12:42pm)
Best signature so far:
37. Flight Officer Ellen Ripley - I say we take off and nuke the game from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Are you going to read all the signatures?
Have fun!
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 4 AUG 2004 at 1:05am |
| Deleted User | I just bought and installed DOOM 3. It sure didnt like my ATI 9800 Pro 128mb to be overclocked. Had to set it back to defaults to avoid any artifacts.
Game looks good at 1024x768... haven't got into it much yet.... supposed to be doing some work...
Be interested to hear how it runs for other people though...
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| 5 AUG 2004 at 9:30pm |
| Deleted User | I played DOOM 3 a bit more last night.
Firstly here's my specs:
P4 2.8ghz
1 Gb RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb
Audigy 2 ZS
I put the video settings as follows:
1024x768
High Quality
All advanced options on except vSync
2xAA
The game runs fine for me on these settings. The speed of gameplay is a lot slower than the original DOOM which means your going to notice lower framerates a LOT less. The frame rate is capped at 60fps so you wont get more than that during the game anyway (timedemo benchmarks are uncapped). I didnt have any noticable hitching whilst playing either, therefore, so far so good as far as gameplay at these settings go.
They've gone for a very Dark moody game this time around, in fact its VERY dark. You will be reaching for your ingame flashlight quite a bit. They have decided to go with the "see your enemy" OR "Shoot your enemy" option whereby you cannot wield a light source AND a weapon. This probably artificially increases the tension in the game... On the whole though...it stops the typical "run 'n gun" strategy because you tend to get out the flashlight and have a bit of a looksie first.
I played last night with the lights out in my study and it makes visibility a lot better. Sound offers some additional atmosphere to the game. As you'd expect, the game looks beautiful (when you can see it )
The monster deaths were a tad dissapointing as I was kind of hoping for some nice spirtual death sequence light show etc, instead they just die in a mist of blood particles. (I liked the death sequences in Prince Of Persia: Sands of time [smiley=thumbs.gif]... Something like that would have been nice)
I am enjoying it heaps so far and I'm not that far in. Looking forward to a nice Friday night of DOOM 3 playing (after watching the final episode of "Quest for the Sea" ie).
Now SJH/MB, where's your report!
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| 5 AUG 2004 at 9:42pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Location: 0
Status : Offline | Unless he's hijacked a copy it not out in the UK until 13th August
Looking forward to playing it. UK PCGAMER gave it 90%.
Is it a new game or just a remake of Doom with pretty graphics.
Dear Diary, My teenage angst bullsh*t now has a bodycount.
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| 5 AUG 2004 at 9:50pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Lucien21 (5 AUG 2004 9:41pm)
Unless he's hijacked a copy it not out in the UK until 13th August
Looking forward to playing it. UK PCGAMER gave it 90%.
Is it a new game or just a remake of Doom with pretty graphics.
WOW, I assumed that being as its on store shelves here, it MUST be available everywhere... Oh well...
I dont think its just a DOOM remake by any stretch. DOOM was MUCH faster paced... a LOT brighter (although it had its dark moments). The original DOOM threw vast numbers of monsters at you... That isnt going to happen in DOOM 3 (At least I doubt it so far). They've gone for more "atmosphere" this time around in terms of picking up PDAs and fleshing out a bit of a story. Its not exactly innovative gameplay either... So far, its the same gameplay you've seen quite a number of times over, but its well done all the same. (but It doesnt remind me of the original DOOM when I'm playing... some people seem to be saying.. Its DOOM!!, but perhaps those people have simply forgotten about DOOMs FAST pace)
There are some "jump back" moments....
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| 5 AUG 2004 at 11:28pm |
| Deleted User | You reassure me with your comments. I saw it in Future Shop yesterday and the guy there was trying to make it run on a demo computer (directly at the entrance doors with a huge stack of DOOM3 boxes). The poor thing didn't manage to hit more than 10 frames/sec at 640x480, medium details. I don't know the specs of his demo-computer but it sure wasn't highlighting the game .
I'll wait for the demo to try my comp at it.
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| 6 AUG 2004 at 1:03am |
ElfstoneGuild Master
Posts : 5892
Joined: 4 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Bazza (5 AUG 2004 9:49pm)
The original DOOM threw vast numbers of monsters at you... That isnt going to happen in DOOM 3 (At least I doubt it so far)
I guess it won't run if they threw around with masses of monsters.
And just think about how it would look like...a high-polished game like this and monster madness...doesn't add up. What use is it if you can't stop and look at the graphics?
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 6 AUG 2004 at 1:12am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Elfstone (6 AUG 2004 1:03am)
I guess it won't run if they threw around with masses of monsters.
And just think about how it would look like...a high-polished game like this and monster madness...doesn't add up. What use is it if you can't stop and look at the graphics?
Yeah ok, whatever... [smiley=boggled.gif]
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| 8 AUG 2004 at 12:38am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Randdom (5 AUG 2004 11:27pm)
You reassure me with your comments. I saw it in Future Shop yesterday and the guy there was trying to make it run on a demo computer (directly at the entrance doors with a huge stack of DOOM3 boxes). The poor thing didn't manage to hit more than 10 frames/sec at 640x480, medium details. I don't know the specs of his demo-computer but it sure wasn't highlighting the game .
I'll wait for the demo to try my comp at it.
I ran the "timedemo demo1" to get some figures for you..
Res: 1024x768
Quality: High
Everything on except Vsynch and AA (I personally cant tell the difference from No AA and 2xAA in Doom 3 visually, but it robs me of 5fps in the timedemo)
ran the timedemo twice (to avoid unrealistic number of texture loads during demo which aren't noticable during gameplay).
Second run gave me an average of 37.5 FPS.
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