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31 JUL 2004 at 6:34pm

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Ok guys,

I have just finished reading the FABULOUS Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown. And I cannot help feeling a strong sense of deja vu. The book has a LOT of similarities with the Broken Sword games.

Here are my observations.

In Broken Sword the two leading characters are an American male and a French female. In Da Vinci Code the two leading characters are an American male and a French female.

The Broken Sword story deals with the Knights Templar. The Knights Templar also play an important part in the Da Vinci Code.

In both the duo travel around the world, working as a team, avoiding the police, exploring temples working out solutions to clues etc.

In Broken Sword the main villain is a man with an 'albino' look about him. In Da Vinci code one of the villains is an albino monk.

In Broken Sword they have an intelligent elderly English historian who helps them called Andre. In Da Vinci they also have a very intelligent elderly historian called Leigh.

There are more things that are minor but the whole book just cries out BROKEN SWORD!

Anyone who has read the book also feel this?

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31 JUL 2004 at 8:14pm

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You might find it interesting

I haven't read the book, but it sounds like a good adventure material

Do go on! I always yawn, when I'm fascinated!

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31 JUL 2004 at 8:24pm

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Originally Posted By HermanToothrot (31 JUL 2004 6:34pm)
Anyone who has read the book also feel this?

Actually, no, although now that you mention it there are some similarities.

The DVC story is much closer to Gabriel Knight 3 than it is to Broken Sword 3 - it's no coincidence that the curator was named Jacques Sauniere. Then again, in its style DVC is more like BS3 - travelling all over the place, with not so supernatural villains, and a good deal of action.
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31 JUL 2004 at 8:25pm

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Originally Posted By Thananda (31 JUL 2004 8:13pm)
I haven't read the book, but it sounds like a good adventure material

It is - it even has puzzles in it.
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31 JUL 2004 at 10:33pm

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Originally Posted By Thananda (31 JUL 2004 8:13pm)
I haven't read the book, but it sounds like a good adventure material
I think that you would enjoy the book Thananda.  The plot is quite clever.  Very much along the lines of GK3 as Michal noted.  


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31 JUL 2004 at 10:52pm

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I'm not sure I would call Andre in BS elderly, but if he was then I totally mistook him for a young lad. (And don't tell me it was the receding hairline since there are some young guys who hereditarily start early.)  



More similarities between Broken Sword and DVC:

The Rose Line was an significant ancient longitutional meridian line believed to lead to the secret location of the Holy Grail in DVC. The Dragon Lines were significant in leading to a secret location of the energy source in BS3.

An inspector in BS1 and Inspector Fache in DVC.

A callous and dull female protagonist in the first two BSs, and a female protagonist whom I simply could not completely sympathize with in DVC. This one is obviously subjective.

I think both BS and GK have an equal amount of similarities to DVC.
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31 JUL 2004 at 11:09pm

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Originally Posted By adventuredog (31 JUL 2004 10:33pm)

I think that you would enjoy the book Thananda.  The plot is quite clever.  Very much along the lines of GK3 as Michal noted.  



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Do go on! I always yawn, when I'm fascinated!

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31 JUL 2004 at 11:42pm

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It's actually got a lot more in common with the 'Holy Blood Holy Grail' book

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1 AUG 2004 at 12:07am

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Originally Posted By karimarti (31 JUL 2004 10:52pm)
I'm not sure I would call Andre in BS elderly, but if he was then I totally mistook him for a young lad. (And don't tell me it was the receding hairline since there are some young guys who hereditarily start early.)  
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Sorry got the name mixed up. I meant Bruno!

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1 AUG 2004 at 12:27am

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Originally Posted By HermanToothrot (1 AUG 2004 12:07am)


Sorry got the name mixed up. I meant Bruno!

Yes Bruno is definitely the counterpart of Leigh in BS. I didn't even think of him!
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1 AUG 2004 at 3:55pm

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I read Angels & Demons (German edition). Is DaVinci Code better, equal or worse than that?
I really liked A&
, I should add.
If it resembles GK3 AND Broken Sword I don't need to ask any further I guess.  

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1 AUG 2004 at 4:50pm

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Originally Posted By Elfstone (1 AUG 2004 3:55pm)
I read Angels & Demons (German edition). Is DaVinci Code better, equal or worse than that?
I really liked A&
, I should add.

The two books are very similar in style. I also think they're both very good - I honestly couldn't say which one is better. Let's put it like this: If you liked A&
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1 AUG 2004 at 4:51pm

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I preferred Davinci Code to Angels and Demons... but it could have been because I read DC first.

The books a nice, quick read.  THe most interesting parts, in my opinion, were the historial and puzzle-based plot twists... the other pseudo-romantic parts were ok.

But I agree - it would make a fabulous adventure game!!

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2 AUG 2004 at 6:20pm

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Bruno isn't British but besides that he is very similar to Leigh besides what Leigh does near the end of the book.  

I really enjoyed both Robert Langdon books and the BS series partly because they're very well done and partly because I like the ancient mystery theme (I'm an Indiana Jones buff)  If anybody else is interested in these kinds of stories I'm finding that Martin Mystery is great and its left a big impression on me as my first comic save one.  The only problem is I can't find any english translations besides the six done by Dark Horse in '99.  If anybody else knows a good place to find these kinds of stories I would love to hear about them.

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2 AUG 2004 at 7:44pm
Deleted UserThe Da Vinci Code was a bad book, as book per se.

Sure, it was fraught with interesting information, especially after playing GK3,

Sure I was happy to see Poussin And Tenier the artists mentioned, but it was as if the author wanted to brag and flaunt everything he knoRe: Broken Sword - Da Vinci Code?



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Ana, I had to modify your post (none of the stuff you wrote, just an error in the "last edit" part).

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3 AUG 2004 at 2:03am

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Originally Posted By Avatar (1 AUG 2004 4:50pm)
I preferred Davinci Code to Angels and Demons... but it could have been because I read DC first.


Me too.

But also because, after reading A&
, I realised just how many plot elements that Brown had simply recycled between the two. The love-interest who'd lost a father figure, the black/white assassin (I'm guessing the part of the murderer in the next book will be either an oriental or indian american character), the same 'bad guy'-twist-in-the-tail-revelation... At very least in DVC, his style had improved slightly.


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3 AUG 2004 at 12:16pm

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The similarities are not so surprising when you consider that both The Da Vinci Code and Broken Sword are straightforward rehashes of a popular subject for fiction. Both borrow heavily from previous sources, as many have pointed out. Dan Brown has even been accused of stealing directly from the non-fiction book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail by Michael Baigent (note: Baigent is an anagram of Teabing), which is an outstanding analysis of the politics and secrecy surrounding the Knights Templar. The mysteries of the Knights Templar will probably always be a source of inspiration for mystery writers (particularly ones bereft of creativity) and adventure game developers, as will Atlantis, the Mayans, Egypt, etc..

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3 AUG 2004 at 12:22pm

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Crapstorm,of what significance is the word`teabing? ???

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3 AUG 2004 at 1:14pm

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Originally Posted By Anne (3 AUG 2004 12:22pm)
Crapstorm,of what significance is the word`teabing? ???


It's the name of one of the characters in the book, Sir Leigh Teabing.

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3 AUG 2004 at 1:18pm

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Originally Posted By Crapstorm (3 AUG 2004 12:15pm)
Dan Brown has even been accused of stealing directly from the non-fiction book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail by Michael Baigent


When you rip-off fiction, it's called plagarism. When you rio-off non-fiction, it's called research!  


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3 AUG 2004 at 3:30pm

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Originally Posted By Fibber_McGee (3 AUG 2004 1:14pm)
It's the name of one of the characters in the book, Sir Leigh Teabing.


Even the names of his characters were trite. For example, the character Aringarosa. Who actually goes so far as to NAME a character 'red herring'?   :-/
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3 AUG 2004 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted By Wolfboy (3 AUG 2004 3:30pm)


Even the names of his characters were trite. For example, the character Aringarosa. Who actually goes so far as to NAME a character 'red herring'?   :-/
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3 AUG 2004 at 9:04pm

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Originally Posted By Wolfboy (3 AUG 2004 3:30pm)
Even the names of his characters were trite. For example, the character Aringarosa. Who actually goes so far as to NAME a character 'red herring'?   :-/

Someone who a) knows that most of his readers don't speak Spanish and b) deliberately uses "meaningful" names for his characters (if the readers know enough to decipher the reference).

I'm sure you don't think characters' names like Jacques Sauniere are random

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4 AUG 2004 at 12:18am
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Originally Posted By MichalN (3 AUG 2004 9:03pm)

Someone who a) knows that most of his readers don't speak Spanish and b) deliberately uses "meaningful" names for his characters (if the readers know enough to decipher the reference).

I'm sure you don't think characters' names like Jacques Sauniere are random
But I think that
a) Aringarosa is pretty obvious. It sounds exactly like red herring.
b) it's silly and boring (while in Harry Potter, at leas, the much meaningful names are at least interesting.


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