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12 JUN 2004 at 8:19pm

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I have just finished the game... And it's too bad, 'cuz I was waiting a long long time for it... Anyway, watching the final moments of the game, made me wondering, about the fact, that Kate ended up stuck on a deserted island, with no food, shelter, company or possibility to go back home.
I wonder if anyone else thought of it and what exectly.

P.S. Other then that, the game was just great  

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12 JUN 2004 at 10:32pm

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details, details...

Maybe it makes room for Kate Walker 3?   :

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13 JUN 2004 at 3:17am

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I'm sure another magical mammoth boat will be by to pick her up any decade now.

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13 JUN 2004 at 3:20am

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"You are correct, Kate Walker!"  

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13 JUN 2004 at 5:18am
Deleted UserAt first I was kind of disappointed with this ending, but then I realized that maybe Kate was dead and was guiding Hans to paradise...

13 JUN 2004 at 7:17am

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Or she just used her cell phone with the Everlasting battery and called for someone to come pick her up.

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13 JUN 2004 at 9:18am

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Or maybe that detective finally catches up to her and they ride of into the sunset and live happily ever after

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13 JUN 2004 at 9:39am

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On an interview some time ago Benoit Soikal has revealed that they are going to use the Kate Walker character a lot.
But, he also said that they are not going abuse on the character, meaning that they will use her with care so that the gamers will not be sick of her appearing all the time like some kind of mascot
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13 JUN 2004 at 3:33pm

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I tend to agree with this one the most

Originally Posted By Susan (13 JUN 2004 7:17am)
Or she just used her cell phone with the Everlasting battery and called for someone to come pick her up.


By the way, did anyone else, like me, wanted Oscar to refuse opening his heart?
I mean, if you going to build something with the purpose of using it's bodey later on, you're not supposed to give it fillings and the ability to think, are you? Or didn't Soikal read enough SiFi? Azimov, to be exact?
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14 JUN 2004 at 5:34am

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Originally Posted By Thananda (13 JUN 2004 3:33pm)
By the way, did anyone else, like me, wanted Oscar to refuse opening his heart?
I mean, if you going to build something with the purpose of using it's bodey later on, you're not supposed to give it fillings and the ability to think, are you? Or didn't Soikal read enough SiFi? Azimov, to be exact?

As an automaton, that's what made him so great; that he had these complicated insides, and all these feelings.  It also helped so that he knew what was going on and what needed to be done.

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19 JUN 2004 at 10:39am

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I still liked Oscar over Hans
I mean, he was an old man, let him die in peace, and not live on over the death of Oscar. I hoped Kate could convince Oscar to not do it, but I was frozen at the train 'till Oscar reached Hans

Silly game. Whatever happened to the insides of Oscar, anyway? He should be full of wheels etc...

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19 JUN 2004 at 2:51pm

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Originally Posted By The Parrot (19 JUN 2004 10:39am)

Silly game. Whatever happened to the insides of Oscar, anyway? He should be full of wheels etc...

They decompose in cold weather?


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19 JUN 2004 at 2:54pm

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19 JUN 2004 at 10:19pm

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I just didn't like the sacrifice from Oscar. I can't believe he's dead, I mean, with Hans you can believe it, since he is an old man etc, but Oscar was there to stay.
Hmmm...
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20 JUN 2004 at 4:27am

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As a story-writer Sokal makes a great cartoonist.  Sorry. But he really needed help with this one and he should have asked for it.

I've seen better story-lines proposed by teenage fans on the Syberia site than what he dreamed up.

The graphics however were SUPERB.  If it weren't for the crappy story I'd play this game over again just for the fun of the Yokol village.

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20 JUN 2004 at 4:34am

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Originally Posted By Caroline (20 JUN 2004 4:27am)
The graphics however were SUPERB.  If it weren't for the crappy story I'd play this game over again just for the fun of the Yokol village.


Yokol Village fun? I lost interest in the game heavily after it reached the Yokol village. That place is so lifeless (read: little hotspots).

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20 JUN 2004 at 6:48am

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Originally Posted By Thananda (12 JUN 2004 8:19pm)
Anyway, watching the final moments of the game, made me wondering, about the fact, that Kate ended up stuck on a deserted island, with no food, shelter, company or possibility to go back home.


I, too, waited a long time for this game, but by the end, I really didn't care what Kate Walker did....I'm pinning all my hopes on TLJ2 now.  

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20 JUN 2004 at 7:44am

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I am a strong syberia afficienado.I guess I might finish sy 2 one day.

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20 JUN 2004 at 9:55am

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Frankly, after playing through all those ridiqulous puzzles I couldn't care less what happened in the end, and the actual Syberia part seemed way too small compared to the other areas, as if the ending had been rushed.

But on the whole, I think that even the idea of a sequel totally undermines the idea stated by Syberia's ending, that the journey is more important than the goal - or as Aerosmith put it: "Life's a journey, not a destination".

The only positive thing I can say about Syberia 2 is that it made me appreciate the first game so much more, because I now realize how much worse it COULD have been.

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20 JUN 2004 at 11:54am

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Originally Posted By Michelle (20 JUN 2004 6:48am)


I'm pinning all my hopes on TLJ2 now.  


I just hope, we won't be having the same discution after the end of TLJ II...  [smiley=shaking_head.gif]

I think, It's very important to think about this things, when you making a sequel (see the Broken Sword line  
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1 JUL 2004 at 12:19pm

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I haven't played much adventure games over the years.  This summer I decided that while things were a little calmer I would find a good Adventure game to enjoy.  Syberia II had lots of buzz, so I took the plunge.

I have to say I was dissappointed too.  The story line was banal and I could care less about Kate Walker.  Maybe I liked Oscar a little more than Hans (probably because he actually helped me out a few times), but really they were so boring.  I also found the insessant walking around through "beautiful" scenery annoying.  If I want beautiful scenery I'll go outside.  When I'm playing a game, I want to *DO* something.

I'll think I'll go dust off my Zork Grand Inquistor and truely enjoy my summer break.

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1 JUL 2004 at 10:03pm

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Yes, I can't disagree with the 'bad plot' and 'lots of walking' in any other way that 'yes, but that didn't spoil it for me'. I'm not sure why, I just liked the game, and didn't walk that much altogether for my feelings. I had some trouble connecting to Kate again, but after a few hours the joy was back again.
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2 JUL 2004 at 1:05am

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Despite all that has been said, Syberia 2 had a wonderful ending.

Compared to 95% of the games out there - the story was fresh and origonal.

It's the best of the best in my book.




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2 JUL 2004 at 3:07pm

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Mine, I hear many more negative views than I expected to..  :-/ Surely Syberia II was not great as an adventure game, but 'crappy story'? Isn't that a little harsh? I don't think the story of Syberia (I see them as a *whole* game instead of I & II, because that's exactly what they were) was perfect, but surely it was its strongest point? You have to give it at least some points for originality. FWIW, I think the story had great potential but was perhaps not as exploited as it could have been. I mean, all this trouble in the first part of the game to find Hans and what do you get? A senile old man who hardly ever talked. Ok, I know that was the idea, but I believe that very few players actually cared for him as much as Kate did. Did you notice that he never exchanged a single word with Oscar? As for Oscar's death.. it was a sudden twist for me, I didn't see it coming, a touching moment. I loved the ending to be honest, I gave a small cheer when I saw the mammoths as I half expected them to be long dead for some reason. And yes, Kate is stranded there for life, with all the time in the world to think about what happens to women who abandon their boyfriends for a long time because they care more about their carreer.  [smiley=angel_smiley.gif]

Seriously now, I agree that the journey was more important than the destination. But if there will be a Syberia III, I want it to begin with Kate burying Hans and re-constructing Oscar. And PLEASE make it a tad more difficult this time!  2 days of gameplay is just not worth the money. >

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2 JUL 2004 at 3:15pm

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Alkis,you are treading through a mine field.I loved syberia 1 and have not finished 2 yet.
But to introduce a theme of career women being punished for dumping their son-of-a-bitch two timing boy friends is a step too far.But you knew that didn`t you.? [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
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