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| 2 DEC 2002 at 7:48am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Britney_Spears (2 DEC 2002 5:30am)
There seems to be a general consensus that this is a good game.
Not really a consensus. I definitely wouldn't say that. It depends on who you listen to. And you'll find that you are not alone with your opinions of this game - although you will also find staunch supporters of Syberia. In fact the last Syberia discussion ended on the brink of a major flamewar.
But what do you think of the obviously asinine characters that Kate deals with?
That they're not so unusual in an adventure game
1. We have her sidekick Oscar. The obtuse bureaucratic tin man who who cannot so much as lift a finger as to help you much along the way other than lend his one- track-only-train driving services.
Yes, Kate's tin buddy Oscar is definitely taking things too far. It is difficult to tell whether he's trying to help Kate or prevent her from getting wherever she's supposed to go.
3. The Insane Soldier Border Guard (or whatever). Who believes that a several-years-static-stationary-blurry enemy soldier is a threat to security.
Not very likely, no. Perhaps Syberia is not for the gullibility-challenged
4. The Inaftuated Insane Man. Who cannot live life fully without meeting his opera sweetheart.
Actually this one was okay. He was clearly out of his mind so irrational behaviour was perfectly acceptable in his case. This one bothered me the the least.
I know this is 'just a game' but can we readily accept it like that when the portraits of characters are drawn so as to not have any intrinsic fundamental intelligence? Were the inhabitants of this game (other than Kate) infected with the dummy virus?
It seemed that way. You forgot the drunken astronaut with suicidal streak (I don't think he could survive).
Take The Longest Journey. I believe that those characters had much more development.
True enough. I guess you could think of it this way: The Longest Journey would probably make a fine book or movie. Syberia definitely wouldn't, unless some masochist enjoys watching a presumably intelligent girl endlessly running around and talking to imbeciles. But she does all that in a beautiful environment!
I forgot my sig.
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| 2 DEC 2002 at 3:26pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | I'd say that everything except the story (the story, not the storyline), graphics and music was weak.
Check out the other two "underground" reviews in this forum. And, if you're in the mood for some great laughs, check the Syberia thread in the main forum (courtesy of your humble servant ).
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| 2 DEC 2002 at 8:42pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | And one irrelevant and impertinent question: Why would anyone call themselves Britney_Spears unless they're the real McCoy - which I doubt is the case here since Britney Spears the singer has surely been too busy being a pop star to get decent education?
I forgot my sig.
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| 2 DEC 2002 at 9:24pm |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By MichalN (2 DEC 2002 8:42pm)
And one irrelevant and impertinent question: Why would anyone call themselves Britney_Spears unless they're the real McCoy
Hmm.....I wondered the same thing too. Unless this person is a big fan of hers.? :-/
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| 2 DEC 2002 at 11:18pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Rael (2 DEC 2002 3:26pm)
I'd say that everything except the story (the story, not the storyline), graphics and music was weak.
I agree with you 100%. For me though, if not for the eye candy I would never have finished this game.
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| 3 DEC 2002 at 2:09pm |
GargoyleIntergalactic Janitor
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Joined: 5 NOV 2002
Status : Online | For me the "weak aspects" are
length!
puzzles
irritating phone calls (Komkolzgrad and Aralbad especially, when Olivia or Dan calls to make some utterly nasally nauseating remarks that I could not care less about)
some bad voice acting, like Sergei Borodine (voice acting only; I would build a shrine too)
Oscar and the boat couple and the myopic Cossack-seeing guard are there for comic effect so they do not bother me excessively.
btw, where is the "boat couple" from? The husband seems to speak a part French part German language and the wife sounds more Russian (peasant) than Borodine!
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| 5 DEC 2002 at 6:00am |
| Deleted User | Weak aspects: I wanted syberia to be more longer, if you look closer there's something wrong when Kate walks up the stairs. The rest, cant remember. Wow, this game is really a big topic. It goes on and on and on..... :
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| 31 DEC 2002 at 4:12am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Do I have to raise my fingers again ?
For those that haven't followed my support of this game (I apologize)...
I agree with some of the points, and yet I loved the game.
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| 31 DEC 2002 at 4:16am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (31 DEC 2002 4:12am)
I agree with some of the points, and yet I loved the game.
Conformist!
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| 2 JAN 2003 at 2:41am |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (2 DEC 2002 8:42pm)
And one irrelevant and impertinent question: Why would anyone call themselves Britney_Spears unless they're the real McCoy - which I doubt is the case here since Britney Spears the singer has surely been too busy being a pop star to get decent education?
well a fan can use the name can't he/she? and playing Syberia might give a fan ideas! you know, put Britney Spears in a cage or smth
as for Syberia i've talked about the major pros (atmosphere, story[line!]) and cons (puzzles, difficulty [say what?]) before... the analyzing of the characters is smth new though... i mostly agree about "The Insane Soldier Border Guard", i think he was the most asinine of all (but aren't they all?! ) on the other hand "The Infatuated Insane Man" portrayed a stalker that could actually exist in real life... i liked him the most... as for oscar, well maybe that happened because he's an automaton, which you could compaire to a droid a guess... so having a computerized brain you don't listen to common sense, you HAVE TO do things the way you are programmed to do them... he was VERY frustrating though it's true
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 4 JAN 2003 at 5:51pm |
szcaxJourneyman
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Status : Online | How about that "puzzle" where Oscar tells you that you can't leave until you put special items on the shelves in the trian. TOTALLY ILLOGICAL!!! I can't think of a lamer way to make sure Kate has all the neccessary items before progressing in the game.
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| 19 JAN 2003 at 11:43pm |
LagavulinPrivate Detective
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The weakest of them all, only one real puzzel. :-[
Another weak thing the ending, sorry but that was no ending it just ........., HELLO HeLLo. ???
Well I am glad I bought it cheap.
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| 20 JAN 2003 at 4:18am |
CarlaJourneyman
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Status : Online | Ok, this Syberia topic seems to be endless.
Now, let's go back to that name "Britney Spears": WHY? WHY? WHY?
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| 9 MAR 2003 at 1:59am |
mesadudeIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Kate Walker could do without her cellphone. Her family, friends and boss can be quite annoying.
The characters she meets along the way are fun because they're so different than most people in the real world (at least that I know).
Mesadude
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| 13 APR 2003 at 12:06pm |
Hot Cross BunsIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I liked the game for the most part, but more importantly...
Now, let's go back to that name "Britney Spears"
Admit it! You are the one and only Britney! You have given up singing and are developing an AG set in the tragic world of pop music and boy bands, admit it!
Hmmm...
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 12:35pm |
AnteIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I don't know the policy of this forum about posting a review - should all reviews have an own topic or is it ok to post all reviews in one topic. Well, to make it simple I'll put mine here (that I wrote in Amazon). Might contain spoilers, so you have been warned.
Subject: Syberia - Mouth-watering wrapping but tastes like an old shoe, September 21, 2003
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I was wondering why did this game got so high reviews for eminent gaming magazines. Scores like 5 out of 5 and 90% aren't the whole truth. Syberia looks and sounds good but after finishing the game twice I can't help the feeling that it feels hollow. Why? Three major aspects made this game are less than satisfying. Because there are already enough of hailing reviews I won't focus on that but tell you what made me think of this game only worth of three stars.
1) The main quest in the game is to find a missing person in order to sign up the contract. You have pretty little information of whereabouts of the person, just a clue. Instead of rational problem solving methods in order to find the person, you are from head to toe in deep labyrinth of irrelevant tasks, acting against common sense. I felt that most of the problems were out of the focus but also too easy to solve. Sometimes you didn't even knew what you just solved or how solving this problem helps you to accomplish you main mission. So, things just happened following the logic of a dream - and like a dream, I had the feeling that I'm not in control of a things but they just happen and I'm standing and watching the show.
2) Dialogue was based on keywords which is good, but the keywords are exactly the same throughout the game. You will eventually end up hearing the same questions and same answers again and again. There's no information about what you have been asking or speaking about before and what are the new topics and discussion opportunities that have arisen from your previous discussions. Not to mention that you could not change your mood (ie. from gentle to hostile tone) in order to have different conversations. The keywords appear on notepad but none of the discussions are written down for later examination. Finally, the main character has a mobile phone and every time it rings she have to answer! It was really irritating. Can't I decide when to speak?
3) Like in every adventure game, you need to collect everything. Sometimes this made me wonder - why? For example: You arrive to the library filled with thousands of books. The only two books you need to solve the problem are simply on your route - you don't even need to look for them. I began to wonder, why just these books are important. From the problem solving view it's complitely opposite - you have tools and then you need to figure out where to use them. Problems can be solved only one way - no alternative solutions.
+) The game has a lots of oddities, some of the hilarious but most of them frustrating dropping the tempo of the adventure and breaking the mood effectively. For example the main character kept saying "No need to go down there". Like she knows where to go but doesn't bother to tell it to the player.
The game had it's good moments but the things mentioned above are inexcusable. They prevent Syberia for being a good and enjoyable adventure game. The end left so many open questions that I'm keen to play the sequel as well I'm wishing that the developers have learned something from the mistakes they made with this first one. If you are looking for better but similiar adventure game try "The Longest Journey", "Grim Fandango" and "Blade Runner". For older games an absolute gem is "Indiana Jones and The Fate of The Atlantis".
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 1:41pm |
AnneGuild Master
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Status : Online | People get easily side tracked here by blondes(is she blonde)And that should have read the guys.
You stick to your topic.They are occassionally serious.
Brittany,why not post you pic on the off topic forum?
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| 14 NOV 2003 at 9:06pm |
Jeroen StoutSchattenjger
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Status : Online | You'll hate me for saying this (you'll probably put my on some rail-road and wait for a wind-up train coming), but I liked the phone calls. Yes, I did. They were a bit annoying, but that was what Kate thought about them as well!
Like, she didn't enjoy them!
And, for the 'silly' characters... boy oh boy why can't I have a real Oscar (the plot, the plot! "See you later, alligator!" "In a while, Kate Walker."). The idea of Kate being annoyed with Oscar but keeps liking him more and more until he becomes a friend - I shared that with her.
The others were just like ordenary people: strange!
The puzzles, they were far too simple. But, they made you get on with the story
Overall I enjoyed the game intensly, but when I played it (again) with a friend the magic was gone... very strange. Perhaps you have to be in the right kind of mood, or the right kind of guy (or girl, or thing) to 'feel' the plot.
So, yes the phone belonged there! Kate breaking up with her friend and not caring - splendid!
Now please loosen up thoose ropes, I can barely move!
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| 20 NOV 2003 at 6:30am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By The_Parrot (14 NOV 2003 9:06pm)
You'll hate me for saying this (you'll probably put my on some rail-road and wait for a wind-up train coming), but I liked the phone calls. Yes, I did. They were a bit annoying, but...
I've finally played Syberia this weekend and I have to say I totally agree with your entire post. The phonecalls in eerie places, like a glimpse of - unwanted- reality in the progressively growing fantasy of the adventure, were perfect!
I expected it much easier and way shorter, thanks to all here . In fact, I thought it would end when leaving Barrockschtad and almost used a walkthrough for the Blue-Helena :
A little bit too much of the "walking in the scenery" thing and some idle i.e annoying conversations (ex: the rectors... i hate people repeating themselves) to my taste ;
but defininitly an "A" game.
It made me believe in the adventure and kept me intrigued til the last second.
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| 20 NOV 2003 at 8:29am |
Jeroen StoutSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Ah yes, the rectors Oh, we've been chatting all day now and just look at the time! It's teatime! Excuse us miss...
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