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| 17 JAN 2005 at 11:01pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Joined: 16 OCT 2004
Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Orange_Brat (16 JAN 2005 9:39pm)
All 3rd person adventure games feature quickly changing camera angles...whether they be point & click or direct control...or prerendered or realtime. I don't see the difference betreen the implementation of the two, although I understand some people's complaints when action sequences are involved. I don't understand during the tried and true exploring/pixel hunting sections, though.
Just in case there was any doubt, my complaint was restricted solely to rapid camera angle switching right in the middle of action sequences. It is disorienting and it disrupts the player's timing at the worst possible moment when they need to execute quick, precise controls in tight, timed segments. It's fine for logically placed, in-game transition scenes or cut scenes for dramatic effect. It's also okay in non-timed / non-action scenes where the player doesn't pay a penalty. But that is not what we are talking about here.
As a footnote, I don't mind free floating camera options that control things like angle and zoom. Nor do I dislike optional first to third person camera views. But those are used at the discretion of each player and can be adjusted according to individual preference. Besides, most games that offer those control options also have settings for locked-down views. So it is entirely your choice whether to even use them or not.
Cheers, Terry
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| 17 JAN 2005 at 11:41pm |
jujigatameSchattenjger
Posts : 1976
Joined: 14 FEB 2003
Status : Online | Michal is completely spot on with this one.
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| 19 JAN 2005 at 4:01am |
jalexSchattenjger
Posts : 2503
Joined: 5 MAR 2003
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (11 MAR 2004 10:43pm)
I paid $70 for my copy of BS3 and even though I meet the min specs, it won't boot up of do anything. >
Wish I could give you my opinion of the game. :'(
Yea I had the same problem but I got mine from ebay abd didn't pay that much.
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| 20 JAN 2005 at 10:46am |
| Deleted User | 70 $ ???
Oh come on even brand new PC games only cost 39 to 45 bucks even in the more expensive supermarkets. Only console games are more expensive wtih 50 to 60 Dollars/Euros.
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| 20 JAN 2005 at 5:07pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
Posts : 4941
Joined: 17 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ogre (20 JAN 2005 10:46am)
70 $ ???
Oh come on even brand new PC games only cost 39 to 45 bucks even in the more expensive supermarkets. Only console games are more expensive wtih 50 to 60 Dollars/Euros.
Important info: Caroline lives in Australia where $70 compares to something like $45-50US or something like that (very rough calculation).
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 21 JAN 2005 at 8:56am |
| Deleted User | Oops... there are just too many dollars around
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| 9 MAR 2005 at 10:56pm |
BunnyFuFuSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 270
Joined: 11 FEB 2003
Status : Online | Nothing wrong with BS3, I thought it was better then BS2.
The graphics, plot and characters are great.
The controls are fine, but I had no trouble with GF either, maybe its because I use a gamepad.
My only problem with BS3 was that there were to many crate puzzles.
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| 16 MAR 2005 at 12:51am |
JPSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 217
Joined: 24 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By BunnyFuFu (9 MAR 2005 10:56pm)
Nothing wrong with BS3, I thought it was better then BS2.
The graphics, plot and characters are great.
The controls are fine, but I had no trouble with GF either, maybe its because I use a gamepad.
My only problem with BS3 was that there were to many crate puzzles.
What? No way?
IMO BS2 + BS1 were way better, largely because of the point & click interface. For some reason I couldn't empathise with the main characters the way I could with the first 2 games - I do agree with the crate puzzles though - they were really annoying :
As far as I am concerned GK3 would have been better if it had employed a similar control system to GK3
Bow down before the one you serve&&You're going to get what you deserve !
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| 16 MAR 2005 at 3:45am |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Joined: 4 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By JP (16 MAR 2005 12:51am)
As far as I am concerned GK3 would have been better if it had employed a similar control system to GK3
Yes, the control system in GK3 ruled while the control system in GK3 was just plain bad.
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| 18 MAR 2005 at 11:08am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Elfstone (16 MAR 2005 3:45am)
Yes, the control system in GK3 ruled while the control system in GK3 was just plain bad.
I have to agree, thats true!
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| 26 JUL 2005 at 9:57pm |
JohnBoyIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 31
Joined: 26 JUL 2005
Status : Online | Personally I thought BS3 was a super fun game!
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| 27 JUL 2005 at 12:06am |
HelenGuild Master
Posts : 3436
Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | I STILL havent played it, one of these days.....
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| 27 JUL 2005 at 4:13am |
trudysgardenSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 312
Joined: 19 JUL 2005
Status : Online | I loved the game, hated the controls. To the point where I actually went out and bought a gamepad. Apparently those scientists who said in the 60's that us kids were damaging our brain cells and impairing our future abilities to use keyboard controls were absolutely correct.
happy trails,
Carolyn
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| 27 JUL 2005 at 2:55pm |
egroegIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 56
Joined: 12 AUG 2005
Status : Online | I suspect i have bitched about this game before but hell. I was so disapointed.
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 10:09pm |
| Deleted User | Hi, I've just finished it.
Great adventure. fun characters, nice puzzles (ok a little easy except for the 'bottle'puzzle. Had to find the answer on www) nice story, liked the humour.
Interface was very ok: when you install a joypad properly using all 10 buttons, then it's near perfect to play.
I give this game a 'B+'
See ya.
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| 6 OCT 2005 at 5:31pm |
jalexSchattenjger
Posts : 2503
Joined: 5 MAR 2003
Status : Offline | I have to agree. I thought that to use a keyboard contol for a game like this was a very poor choice. Any game that deals with realistic or even semi realistic decisions needs the input that only a mouse can give. Keyboard controls were used for many years before they had a decent pointing device but now that we do they seem to want to go back to the dark ages. It's almost like the good old days when we didn't even have a keyboard and all we had was a row of buttons to put in a binary code.
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| 10 OCT 2005 at 11:33pm |
PoyntenklikSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 201
Joined: 25 AUG 2005
Status : Online | To the thread starter: I say rubbish. BS3 - brilliant game
I can't remember much about the plot or puzzles of BS3 now, but I do remember it being awesome fun, as all the broken sword games were. I was concerned when cartoony 2D games like the first BS and the earlier lucas arts games would go 3D but once they did, it was fine.
I have no complaints about BS3 at all.
I wil now raise a toast ( in the form of clapping) to the upcoming BS4! [smiley=clap.gif]
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| 19 OCT 2005 at 7:33pm |
KCgirlgeek1963Intergalactic Janitor
Posts : 20
Joined: 18 OCT 2005
Status : Online | Yup, yup....I am a fan of the ENTIRE Broken Sword series and I absolutely LOVED BS3!!
It always makes me sad to see yet another person that downright hated it.
To be honest though, I wonder if some people just didn't like it because they don't like CHANGE. You know, some folks just DON'T like change...period.
I loved that it was new, fresh, different for the series, and the controls did not bother me a BIT after like 10 minutes. Admittedly, I don't have much trouble with keyboard controls or any other kind of control adjustment, due to the fact I play games of every genre. I do think that helps.
I just cannot WAIT for BS4!!!!! WOOHOOO!!
I also noticed a post complaining that the game to follow TLJ is basically, "gonna suck." I predict that most of the people that hated the changes in BS3 will also hate that game, but I CAN'T WAIT!!!
Change can be stressful or exciting....a lot of that is simply in one's perception.
Presently playing Everquest 2 and World of Warcraft obsessively....as well as any other good games that appear on the horizon. I love all genres!
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| 9 NOV 2005 at 6:29am |
| Deleted User | Just to weigh in, BS3 is definitely in my short list of games I'm looking foward to playing again someday.
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| 10 NOV 2005 at 1:53am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
Posts : 1976
Joined: 14 FEB 2003
Status : Online | To be honest though, I wonder if some people just didn't like it because they don't like CHANGE. You know, some folks just DON'T like change...period.
No, I didn't like it because the controls were clumsy and the action sequences were poorly conceived. Add to that a ho-hum plot and an absurd quantity of repetitive crate puzzles and it just seemed like there was a lot more to dislike than to like.
I have no problem with hybrids, and I'm a big fan of action games. Beyond Good & Evil was great and I'm now playing Painkiller.
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