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| 3 MAR 2004 at 11:40pm |
AzarIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I wonder if this bodes well for the new Monkey Island.. either a potential shift in resources to it, or another possible cancellation.
Re: petitions
Not to be cynical, but they never do anything, especially online ones. A friend of mine who worked in the PR department of Interplay watched a mailed-in petition for some cancelled game go straight into the trash.
But knock yourselves out.
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| 3 MAR 2004 at 11:43pm |
Erwin_BrPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Azar (3 MAR 2004 11:40pm)
I wonder if this bodes well for the new Monkey Island.. either a potential shift in resources to it, or another possible cancellation.
Re: petitions
Not to be cynical, but they never do anything, especially online ones. A friend of mine who worked in the PR department of Interplay watched a mailed-in petition for some cancelled game go straight into the trash.
But knock yourselves out.
Yep, you're right.
Emailing them a letter would do much more, and the best thing you can do is send them a letter by mail to their address.
Which would be:
LucasArts
P.O. Box 10307
San Rafael, CA 94912
--Erwin
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| 3 MAR 2004 at 11:56pm |
KsandraSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Azar (3 MAR 2004 11:40pm)
Re: petitions
Not to be cynical, but they never do anything, especially online ones. A friend of mine who worked in the PR department of Interplay watched a mailed-in petition for some cancelled game go straight into the trash.
You're almost certainly right, but it can't actually hurt. As someone at the AG forums pointed out, the petition at least shows the number of people who've signed, and the LucasArts mob are very interested in numbers :
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 12:21am |
mr_williIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I must admit I wasn't eagerly awaiting Sam & Max 2 because I like more serious adventures such as Syberia and Longest Journey. But it hurts knowing the whole mentality behind LucasArts' reasoning was "adventure games don't sell." Tell that to the Adventure Company.
Looks like we'll keep on needing to rely on the Europeans for good gaming.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 12:47am |
KsandraSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Did you know there's a thread about this at Gamespot that's reached 7 pages already? And almost every poster is saying how disappointed they are. So as you see, it's not only the hardcore adventure sites that are getting upset about this...
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 1:09am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | This is f*cking terrible. The only consolation I can take is that maybe it was going to be a bad game if they released it, and I prefer it not be released than to be released and stink.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 1:10am |
RecklessJourneyman
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Status : Online | I cannot beleive the news Lucasarts can go and ..... ... them stupid b......s, I'm mean come off it guys, wake up ans smell the shit your company has been shovelling :
The game showed great promise. I hope that everyone involved in this decision has a short and miserable remaining career in the games industry.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 1:21am |
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 1:22am |
jannar85Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Can't sleep.
Can't drink.
I see LucasArts shrink...
I hate.
I cry.
I see LucasArts die...
Can't love.
Can't admire.
I've lost my LucasArts-desire...
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 1:51am |
gatorlawSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Well this tears it for me with Lucas Arts. For those whose feelings of betrayal are too hot to draft a mail to Lucas Arts PR without also possibly trashing their keyboard. Here's a suggestion.
I wrote a brief semi-courtious statement and then enclosed a link to a page that "I thought said it all for me and my feelings on Lucas Arts"
It is articulate and succinct.
http://wwhs.fangames.co.uk/
I hope they enjoy this page - I know I sure did.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 2:29am |
AzarIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Ksandra (4 MAR 2004 12:47am)
Did you know there's a thread about this at Gamespot that's reached 7 pages already? And almost every poster is saying how disappointed they are. So as you see, it's not only the hardcore adventure sites that are getting upset about this...
And on Bluesnews as well (Shacknews too, probably.. haven't checked). These sites are mostly populated by long-time gamers.. who undoubted grew up on adventure games before moving onto other genres. Which is good for us.. more wood for the fire.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 4:05am |
LeonIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Hah.
If they want to stop producing adventure games, fine. Actually, I'd rather they can the games if the screenshots are any indication of their quality.
You know what? We've got Microids and the Adventure Company now. Make way for the newcomers. They're 100 times fresher than Lucas Arts could ever be at this point.
We can't act like Lucas Arts have been spoiling us lately.
Full Throttle 2 looked horrible. Sam & Max 2 was iffy. And rumours are circulating that the next Monkey Island isn't even gonna be an adventure game. Well whoop-di-doo, if that's the kind of effort Lucas Arts is going to put in this genre, then I'm glad they're backing out, and thank God for the Kate Walkers of the new generation of adventure games.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 4:12am |
MoncoIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Maybe if we bomb them with emails they'll reconsider. I already sent mine, which was full of pleasant constructive criticism.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 4:20am |
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Status : Online | The Quest for Glory 5 phenomenon ain't happening on Lucas Arts.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 4:39am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger
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Status : Online | YOU KNOW WHAT I'M NOT DISAPPOINTED.......
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There's nothing here, there's nothing sane
I'm so tired...and this made me more tired.......
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 5:12am |
AkhillesPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | > :-[
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 5:19am |
KillTheGrimaceSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Azar (3 MAR 2004 11:40pm)
Re: petitions
Not to be cynical, but they never do anything, especially online ones. A friend of mine who worked in the PR department of Interplay watched a mailed-in petition for some cancelled game go straight into the trash.
Depends. Online campaigns actually are successful sometimes. For example, the TV show Roswell was extended for another season as a result of Internet outcry. Additionally, Comedy Central buckled under Internet pressure to release the Upright Citizens Brigade on DVD. It's better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all.
Unfortunately, LucasArts doesn't seem interested in producing ANY adventure games for the PC any time soon. They're just lookin' at those juicy console dollars.
Oh, hey MonkeyDude, where'd you hear about the Alice cancellation? I haven't heard anything about that. (Frankly, I wouldn't be too surprised if it was true, because the interview I saw with McGee earlier this year sounded like they hadn't even started with the game.)
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 8:10am |
Erwin_BrPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Leon (4 MAR 2004 4:05am)
Hah.
If they want to stop producing adventure games, fine. Actually, I'd rather they can the games if the screenshots are any indication of their quality.
You know what? We've got Microids and the Adventure Company now. Make way for the newcomers. They're 100 times fresher than Lucas Arts could ever be at this point.
We can't act like Lucas Arts have been spoiling us lately.
Full Throttle 2 looked horrible. Sam & Max 2 was iffy. And rumours are circulating that the next Monkey Island isn't even gonna be an adventure game. Well whoop-di-doo, if that's the kind of effort Lucas Arts is going to put in this genre, then I'm glad they're backing out, and thank God for the Kate Walkers of the new generation of adventure games.
You're talking about the early screenshots I presume? The latest screenshots that appeared in various gaming magazines actually looked pretty good.
Judge for yourselves here: http://www.samandmax.net/images/magazinescan.jpg
--Erwin
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 8:44am |
AzarIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By KillTheGrimace (4 MAR 2004 5:19am)
Depends. Online campaigns actually are successful sometimes. For example, the TV show Roswell was extended for another season as a result of Internet outcry. Additionally, Comedy Central buckled under Internet pressure to release the Upright Citizens Brigade on DVD. It's better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all.
Unfortunately, LucasArts doesn't seem interested in producing ANY adventure games for the PC any time soon. They're just lookin' at those juicy console dollars.
Those are the very rare exceptions. For every successful 1, I can name 5 that failed. Stark Raving Mad, Space: Above and Beyond, Birds of Prey, Farscape, Lone Gunmen.. all failed petitions. I think e-mail or letters are the more sensible way to go. There's something much more menacing about a heaping pile of mail than a few pages of html.
I think Lucasarts was just looking to make a quick buck out of their old franchises. Why else would there be a sudden revival of 3 of their old adventure titles, all at the same time? That Sam n' Max was actually shaping up to be a good game was just a lucky coincidence for them (and us).
Leon:
I wouldn't be so quick to brush off Lucasarts. I remember Justadventure posted an article last year about Microids' financial woes.. apparently they were very close to bankruptcy. Syberia 2 is going to be their make or break game.
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 9:02am |
LonelyMindSpace Cadet
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Location: SE
Status : Offline | Yes, this is truly awful.
What upsets me is that LucasArts is interested enough to charge the highest prices for their oldies (at least in Sweden) of any company I've seen, yet they completely disregards the interest for some new ones.
Also, as long as they hold the rights, noone else can make any new ones based on the characters we all have come to love. Sad :'(.
LM
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 9:18am |
| Deleted User | And rumours are circulating that the next Monkey Island isn't even gonna be an adventure game.
*points hand in the air*
Er... that would've been me that started them... Sorry. That's not true! It was a joke!
BTW Grim, apparently it's not cancelled anymore. Go figure!
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 12:20pm |
LimeIntergalactic Janitor
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A*SSHOLES!!! i am personally boycotting this company!!
Waste my time, researching and reading about 2 MAKE BELIEVE GAMES ?!?
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| 4 MAR 2004 at 8:00pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | ??? > :'( :
In exactly that order.
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| 5 MAR 2004 at 12:00am |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
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Status : Online | To be entirely honest, I don't care. Mostly because I haven't had the slightest scrap of belief that LA could provide a decent adventure game.
I mean, look at their recent fare. Monkey Island 4, the combat-orientated Full Throttle 2... They've not made a decent game since Grim Fandango, and that was over five years ago.
Lucasarts have jumped the shark. That's all there is to it. They made good games - years ago - but nowadays they're just unable to do that. I'm more interested in the upcomming Adventure Company games, I have faith in them.
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