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| 27 NOV 2003 at 4:37am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Reading this thread over, there seems to be some confusion as to where Cassandra Galleries fits. This may help (sealed boxed version):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11047&item=3052805080
Then there is this going on for a jewel case only version:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3060967045&category=11047
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 27 NOV 2003 at 7:05am |
shrimpnoseIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Hi SirDave,
Thanks for "The Cassandra Galleries" update. That was the main reason why I started this topic. I definitely cannot catch all the highest bids on eBay, so any information concerning high prices is much appreciated. My list will be updated accordingly.
There are a few more games that I know are worth a fair bit more, but I need proof to make it legit.
The other thing that is most frustrating is all the rare games that are being sold secretly behind the scenes (ie. Alice: An Interactive Museum), thus making it very difficult to figure out their going price. For all I know "Alice" might have been sold for $300 (a bargain for the buyer and a windfall for the seller), but who knows...
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| 27 NOV 2003 at 8:07am |
| Deleted User | You made a private offer to the seller, an offer that you say you knew was far, far too low, and now you're complaining that all these private offers are so frustrating...?
And I really truly honestly think that there is no such thing as a mysterious "going price" for collectors items such as a boxed Alice.
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| 27 NOV 2003 at 2:51pm |
shrimpnoseIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Hi Bijtje,
I made a private offer because I have been burnt one too many times, so I guess you could say you learn your lesson pretty quickly. My intentions though are not to buy privately but to make sure nobody else steals the game from you, but in this case the guy still sold the game without giving me or anybody else a fair chance first.
In fact I think private sales shouldn't be allowed after an auction is posted, I am all for open bids and may the best man/woman win, but you know that's not going to happen anyway, it would just mean rules and more rules to be broken. So if you can't beat them, join them...
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| 27 NOV 2003 at 3:03pm |
AlpineSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Actually, private sales AREN'T allowed after an auction is posted... but eBay's unbelievably lame "customer disservice" is totally impotent >
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| 27 NOV 2003 at 6:15pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Bijtje (27 NOV 2003 8:07am)
And I really truly honestly think that there is no such thing as a mysterious "going price" for collectors items such as a boxed Alice.
Betje:
I'm not sure what you mean. In my mind, in one sense, there is a 'mysterious going price' for any of top collector AG games in spite of the estimates given here. I think most seller's have a general idea what they hope to get for something like a boxed Alice but in the end there are more variables than just the estimated value of the game. For one thing, the Ebay seller can't count on the fact that top-dollar buyers are going to see the listing or are ready to buy at that point in time. Also, sellers know that someone with a lousy feedback record may buy the game at a high price but then not follow thru appropriately or cause the whole deal to be a pain in the rear- therefore, a buyer may be happy with a lower price with a good buyer knowing that it will be quick, reliable and easy. Finally, there seems to be periods of time when the big buyers are everywhere and these games go for top dollar whereas at other times they seem to disappear and people get very desirable games a lower prices.
So, the fact is, even though I think I know the AG collector market fairly well, I'm proved wrong enough times that to some extent the 'going price' is always 'mysterious' to me!
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| 27 NOV 2003 at 6:23pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Alpine (27 NOV 2003 3:03pm)
Actually, private sales AREN'T allowed after an auction is posted... but eBay's unbelievably lame "customer disservice" is totally impotent >
Well, maybe, but the fact is that a seller can come up with one of several reasons to prematurely end an auction and then do a private sale. I'm not sure Ebay could realistically stop sellers from deciding to end their own auction.
Pragmatically I think that any of the very top collectible items in any category are going to sometimes go to a private sale, but Ebay will continue to work for everything else.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 29 NOV 2003 at 1:27am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By SirDave (27 NOV 2003 6:15pm)
So, the fact is, even though I think I know the AG collector market fairly well, I'm proved wrong enough times that to some extent the 'going price' is always 'mysterious' to me!
You say you don't know what I mean by going price (Shrimpnose was the first to use the term), but I think we agree.
What is the going price of a NIB Duckman if it does $81 on ebay (will probably go even higher...) and $19.95 elsewhere.
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| 29 NOV 2003 at 1:37am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Bijtje (29 NOV 2003 1:26am)
You say you don't know what I mean by going price (Shrimpnose was the first to use the term), but I think we agree.
What is the going price of a NIB Duckman if it does $81 on ebay (will probably go even higher...) and $19.95 elsewhere.
I re-read your post and realize that I was thrown off by the term 'mysterious'. We are apparently in agreement that the 'going price' of these games is only an estimate and sometimes probably a poor one at that.
Perhaps we need a new set of terms:
Alice Interactive Museum: a small fortune.
Celtica: a good chunk of the retirement fund.
Cassandra Galleries: food money for a week
Duckman: break the kid's piggy bank
etc. etc.
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| 29 NOV 2003 at 2:13am |
| Deleted User | Sir Dave, you've listed four good reasons why I'll never be a true collector.
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| 1 DEC 2003 at 1:50pm |
shrimpnoseIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Here are some recent auctions worthy of note,
$70.00 Obsidian (Good price for the complete boxed game)
$81.00 Duckman (Way too high for the german re-release version - $19.95 at "PLAYING GAMES INTERACTIVE"
$112.50 Cassandra Galleries (Hefty price for the JC game)
$127.50 Infocom Masterpieces (A classic worth every penny)
$150.00 Dinotopia The Land Apart From Time (Almost beat the record - $157.00)
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| 1 DEC 2003 at 2:30pm |
Friday the 14thSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Hmm,
I bought The Gene Machine for only 1 euro, now I regret not saving the box, same thing with The Space Quest collection, though I paid 5 euro. I also bought The Neverhood for 10 euro. All of them new and boxed.
Bought Chewy used for 5 euro. I found I Have No Mouth.. in Gothenburg new but the box wasn't in a good shape, it sold for 20 euro but I managed to haggle it down to only half that sum.
IHNM for 51 bucks is waaay overpriced, you can get it cheaper from Harlan Ellison's website.
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| 1 DEC 2003 at 2:40pm |
| Deleted User | That's what I've been trying to say... there is not just ONE open market called ebay, there are so many different markets where both gamers and collectors can find great stuff.
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| 12 DEC 2003 at 6:56am |
PatvsSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | My big Christmas sale:
ORION BURGER on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11047&item=3064524718
Boxed (English box), mint condition, free shipping, bidding starts at $0.01. (with no reserve)
I also have 50 other games. (such as Roberta Williams Anthology, Mortimer and the Riddles of the Medallion by Lucasarts, King's Quest IV, Space Quest II, Morpheus, Lucasarts Classic Archives, Lucasarts Archives Vol. I, Vol. II, Dreamweb, Harvester, Shadow of the Comet, The Wing Commander Kilrathi Saga, etc. etc.
will combine shipping..
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| 22 DEC 2003 at 4:07pm |
PatvsSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | My auctions ended last night. My highest prices were:
$179,26 ORION BURGER
$150 Wing Commander KILRATHI SAGA
$108,50 Roberta Williams Anthology
$91 Roberta Williams Anthology
$81 Lucasarts Archives Vol. I
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| 22 DEC 2003 at 5:01pm |
coreoverloadIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I can understand the prices for Kilrathi Saga and Orion Burger and Roberta williams Anthology.
But the Lucasarts Archives?
I have never seen any volume go so high.
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| 1 APR 2004 at 4:43am |
Goddess of All Things MagicalSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Very interesting - lots of titles that I want listed here
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| 1 APR 2004 at 5:27am |
Bub_CherubIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Heh I recently got the urge to make an adventure gaming PC out of a P2 333. I had tons and tons of adventure games having worked in the game industry but either gave them all away or sold them (kept a few, but unfortunately not the super rare ones apparently). So my horror arrives when I see Sierra collections going for uberbucks and having to rebuy things I used to have.
AIGH.
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| 1 APR 2004 at 6:04am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Patvs (22 DEC 2003 4:07pm)
$150 Wing Commander KILRATHI SAGA
Whoa, hang on a minute. The Kilrathi Saga is worth that much? I picked it up new for around $20 some years ago! Great games, yes, but why would a re-release go up that much in value? It can't be that rare, can it?
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| 1 APR 2004 at 8:40am |
| Deleted User | I sold 3 Skulls of the Toltecs for 35$, cd only (i.e. no box, no manual etc) and there was no picture on my auction page. Is that a good deal?
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| 12 APR 2004 at 10:05pm |
PatvsSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Oh my god!! I just got back from my family Easter weekend. My Roberta Williams Anthology sold on Ebay for $227.50 (although my BUY NOW option was $120!!)
Roberta Williams Anthology I
And then I tricked the #2 bidder for a SECOND CHANCE offer (I own multiple copies of the game) who bought it for $225.
Roberta Williams Anthology II
These people are all idiots.. (I'm not complaining..!)
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| 12 APR 2004 at 10:19pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Patvs (12 APR 2004 10:05pm)
Oh my god!! I just got back from my family Easter weekend. My Roberta Williams Anthology sold on Ebay for $227.50 (although my BUY NOW option was $120!!)
Roberta Williams Anthology I
And then I tricked the #2 bidder for a SECOND CHANCE offer (I own multiple copies of the game) who bought it for $225.
Roberta Williams Anthology II
These people are all idiots.. (I'm not complaining..!)
Gee, you better hope your #2 buyer doesn't read this and, also, I'm glad I wasn't one of the buyers (Heaven knows I could have been ). The anthology has been a popular and relatively rare item for some time; they don't appear on Ebay very often. I don't consider these people idiots. They want the anthology and they have the resources to pay the going price for it- that's free enterprise. The fact that you happen to have multiple copies of it makes you a smart hombre and from the point of view of the #2 buyer makes him lucky. I've been a #2 buyer in this situation and was perfectly aware that the seller had more than one copy. As long as it was a game I desperately wanted, it didn't matter to me.
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| 13 APR 2004 at 3:07am |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | So how DID you manage to get all those sealed copies of the RWA anyway?
I miss my Bubba: 1986 - 2006.
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| 13 APR 2004 at 7:15pm |
PatvsSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | I bought about 60 (ALL OF THEM) of a small shop that went bankrupt.
Unfortunately I only have about 15 left now.
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