| 29 OCT 2003 at 1:01pm |
Erwin_BrPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | So I guess this is Sierra's Monkey Island 4 in a way... (Except the 3D graphics of LSL are much better!)
--Erwin
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 1:44pm |
EivindIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Hey, aren't you guys a bit prejudiced now? We seriously don't know enough about this game to make any final judgement. After all, we should be glad that Sierra has acknowledged their adventurous past, by reviving one of their main franchises.
I know, I know, I was a but disappointed by the news that Al Lowe wasn't involved in the project, and by the fact that the game wouldn't star Larry Laffer, but after watching the trailer from Sierra's website ( http://www.sierra.com/file_list.do?gamePlatformId=607 ) I regained my faith in the sequel. It looks fun, the graphics are "Larry-ish" and it seems to maintain the same kind of humour that is found in the previous Larrys.
Not all has been revealed on the title yet, and it's too early to make any judgement. The game might turn out good. It's described as "a mixture between adventure and GTA3-style free roaming". Dunno what that means, but an adventure game with the same feeling of freedom as Vice City - that has never been done before, and it could rock. If it's done right, of course.
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 3:33pm |
| Deleted User | No Lowe no Larry.
Trailers proof me right.
Dammit, Sierra, do something before it's too late.
dammit.
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 5:12pm |
overcomeSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | The trailer for this game looks great! The animation is real nice.
BUT why call it Leisure Suit Larry when the kid in it doesn't even wear a Leisure Suit?????!
Anyways I hope the production team is smart enough to make this a game that pokes fun at the stereotypes rather than one that tries to make them "cool". That would ensure lots of protest over the game and they would have shot themselves in the foot.
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 5:20pm |
| Deleted User | Just saw the trailer and all the hope I had for this game just went down the drain.
First off "Guess who's back?".......... who? I never even heard of Larry Lovage until now.. so how the heck can he be back when he's a new character? ???
Besides like overcome said. Where is the suit?
Damn, already I'm feeling angry about having to see a beloved series like LSL get torn up like this.
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 5:20pm |
GreatPumpkinSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Eivind (29 OCT 2003 1:44pm)
It's described as "a mixture between adventure and GTA3-style free roaming". Dunno what that means, but an adventure game with the same feeling of freedom as Vice City - that has never been done before, and it could rock. If it's done right, of course.
If they are really aiming for a cross between GTA and LSL, the obvious thing to do would have been to do a prequel with Larry in the 70s. The 80s theme of Vice City was insanely popular, and the 70s are ripe for parody.
They should also take another look at their marketing. When advertised as being like American Pie... *yawn* But my first reaction to the movie clip is that this looks sort of Animal House-y, which still isn't my ideal theme, but I am 100 times more likely to buy an Animal House-esque game than an American Pie-esque game.
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 5:24pm |
GreatPumpkinSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Jojo Jr (29 OCT 2003 5:19pm)
First off "Guess who's back?".......... who? I never even heard of Larry Lovage until now.. so how the heck can he be back when he's a new character? ???
Maybe Laffer is an unlockable character. Or maybe Lovage at least changes into a leisure suit at some point. I could see something like a 70s themed dance that Lovage shows up to in his Uncle's old suit. Just for nostalgia's sake.
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 5:39pm |
KsandraSchattenjger
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Status : Online | It seems a bit premature to be judging the game already based on a press release, a couple of screenshots and a short trailer. On the other hand, considering that gamers have 'begged for a sequel' it does seem a little strange that they've deliberately decided not to make a game that will fit in with the fans' expectations.
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 8:06pm |
MrMongooseIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Hey all... I just wanted to add my 2 cents here.
First, I have been as skeptical as anyone over the past few weeks. I think that I, along with most other Larry fans, were completely screwed when Sierra pulled the plug on LSL 8 (Lust in Space), and then cancelled any plans for any new adventure games. And with Adam Kahn's warnings that this will not play like the previous Larry games, there was (and still is) a lot to be concerned about!
However, I've been doing a lot of reporting for LarryLives.com and I have developed a few perspectives as a result.
First, I've gotten emails from a couple of the guys over at High Voltage. Regardless how the game turns out - those guys really are great. And I honestly believe they are trying their hardest to keep the spirit of Leisure Suit Larry alive. They have made serious changes to the formula, but from what I've seen and heard the most important element of the game, the humor, has stayed mostly intact.
Going in to this announcement my greatest fear was that VU Games was interested in LSL only because of name recognition. I was concerned that they had no interest in making original Larry fans happy, and instead were simply going to try to use the existing character to focus on a completely new audience. Let's be honest, those of us who have been playing since Larry's first game came out are well past the industry's target age group
However, I personally found some comfort in reading the press release and seeing how hard they were trying to actually tie it to the previous games. In fact, Adam Kahn himself (he's the senior PR representative over at Vivendi) said on the LarryLives message board that the elder Larry (Laffer, of course!) would definately be making some sort of appearance (my guess is a cameo role).
I had also talked to various sources before the press release who had seen the game. Many of them couldn't/wouldn't share details, but all were positive about the game. And this includes independant sources (outside of the Vivendi family), AND other fans of the original LSL games. That, too, made me feel a lot better.
Personally, I like the idea of Larry Lovage. First, it means that even if the game is a stinker, they haven't messed up Larry Laffer's untarnished record. Second, I actually look at it as a good sign. If Vivendi/Sierra had no respect for Larry or his fans, it would have been easy just to change him (Larry) to fit their own needs. Instead of a new character, they could have made him 20 again, or done a game set in his past. Of course, all of us know that at age 20 (according to the original story) Larry was still a virgin and living at home with his mother... so instead they have expanded Larry's family and given him a sort of spin-off.
The biggest unanswered question now is what exactly the game-play will be like. We know it wont be like the previous games... but that doesn't mean it will be a disaster. I'm, personally, more interested in the humor. I LOVE adventure games, and don't like (most) action games, but I usually enjoy anything with good humor. From everything that I've seen I would speculate that the game will consist of many mini-games, a dating-sim element, and, of course, lots of adventure components. Certainly there will be no machine guns, or drag racing.... let's at least all be thankful for THAT
Ultimately, I would say... keep your concerns, but don't give up hope. There are still things that can go horribly horribly wrong. BUT, to date, with everything I personally have seen, I don't think there is any imminent disaster lurking. Quite honestly, I personally am excited to see how the game turns out, and I hope that with it's success comes additional (even more adventure-based) installments to the Larrys (plural, now) sordid adventures.
-Mongoose
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| 29 OCT 2003 at 10:46pm |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | It appears that we have Sierra making a 3D game, featuring in its title the name of a classic long-running series, but having a different main character. Oh, and it might not even be an adventure game.
Takes me back to the days of King's Quest: Mask of Eternity.
But I don't get this: GAMING'S ORIGINAL LADIES' MAN AND LOVABLE LOSER GOES TO COLLEGE IN LEISURE SUIT LARRY: MAGNA CUM LAUDE. If the game is about Larry Lovage, then where does Larry Laffer come in? Cameo appearance?
Originally Posted By Lucien21 (28 OCT 2003 6:14pm)
They also seem to have another adventure game based on Disney's The Haunted Mansion under development. They describe as a single player puzzle adventure but the trailer is very arcady.
If that's the same as the console game I play-tested @ the rotating building (forgot its name) in DisneyLand this summer, then it is very arcade-y. Run around, gather items. Hello story, where are you?
I miss my Bubba: 1986 - 2006.
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| 30 OCT 2003 at 1:37am |
doernpferdeIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Here something I thought was ... rather interesting!
http://www.allowe.com/L-8news.htm
doern
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| 30 OCT 2003 at 1:55am |
Bob_the_BuilderJourneyman
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Status : Online | First I hear Mr. Mongoose's news, now this. I went from hating this game to looking forward to it. Even if Al Lowe ends up not working for the game, I'll still look forward to it because Sierra does seem to be putting an effort into it. At least they're somewhat listening to the fans.
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| 30 OCT 2003 at 2:06am |
DJ SouzaJourneyman
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Status : Online | Al Lowe working on the new LSL game? Wow, that is great news!
Hopefully, someday we will see another GK with Jane Jensen, another KQ with Roberta Willians, another QfG with the Coles....
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| 30 OCT 2003 at 4:12am |
jalexSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Well, That was quite a shock, allright. From what I see in the trailer and the screen shots it does look pretty good but I havn't changed my mind yet about the fact that only Al can do a game like this. I guess I won't really be able to do that until after I play it. I still can't say one way or the other if it will fly or not.
It is a nice idea about introducing a new charator though. At least that way if it does flop it won't hurt the originals as bad.
I kinda hope it doesn't though if they really are serious about making good adventure games.
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| 30 OCT 2003 at 2:55pm |
| Deleted User | Wow! Things are sure going wild here... I've come to accept this new game, sort of. The key is that they chose this Lovage character (indeed he looks like Jimmy Neutron) so you can always view it as a spin-off thing, kind of like Police Quest: Swat, or while you're at it, why not LSL's Casino?
And now it seems like Al Lowe will be involved after all. Good for him! However this game turns out (the right designer still doesn't guarantee a good game) it certainly gives us some hope that it will feature the kind of humor that we are accustomed to. As MrMongoose put it, it should also be realized that many talented people are working hard to make this game good, so it may very well be an excellent game on its own merits.
But that Al Lowe comment can be seen in another light. Considering the release year and all, the game should have come pretty far in development already. Is it possible that they are planning another Larry game and that this is what he's talking about? This was just my first thought when I read it, so it might be worth discussing. I'm pretty sure he refers to MCL though...
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| 30 OCT 2003 at 5:22pm |
| Deleted User | At sierra.com leisure suit larry 8 msg board, one of the developers is answering questions about the game
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| 30 OCT 2003 at 6:33pm |
GreatPumpkinSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Petter_Holmberg (30 OCT 2003 2:55pm)
Considering the release year and all, the game should have come pretty far in development already.
This was the first thing that popped into my mind as well. How much input or control can Al Lowe possibly have at this point? It's not like they are going to scrap everything they have and let him do whatever he wants. He may be able to do some polishing script and concept wise, but it is going to be a slight polishing of what they already have ready to go. This smacks of nothing but fan service that has come too little too late. Someone in Sierra's marketing department figured out that if Al Lowe is iced out of the production entirely, fans will have a hissy fit (see above) which translates into bad buzz on their game. Now they bring him in as a "Creative Consultant" or something to that effect, and the whine factor is mitigated.
As for a LSL9, I would seriously doubt they would put any money into it until they see how well MCL flys. Even then, if MCL flys, the next game will use the same engine and gameplay style. If it doesn't fly, Sierra will have confirmation that the adventure genre is dead and that will be the end of that.
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| 31 OCT 2003 at 12:36am |
linusIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By GreatPumpkin (30 OCT 2003 6:33pm)
Even then, if MCL flys, the next game will use the same engine and gameplay style. If it doesn't fly, Sierra will have confirmation that the adventure genre is dead and that will be the end of that.
Exactly my thoughts.
My main concern with MCL was and is that I haven't heard this Larry Lovage utter a single word in the trailer and there doesn't seem to be any on-screen text in the game either. I think dialog and textual descriptions were always an important part of the humor in LSL games. If Al Lowe can ensure that these elements are included in the game - or even write the dialogs himself - , I might still like this game.
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| 31 OCT 2003 at 1:07am |
doernpferdeIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I can't imagine that the game will have no speach. No, actaully I am absolutely sure it will! Now, that it looks like Al's getting on board, it is in fact very likely that he will be writing the dialogues.
I think the reason why we didn't hear any speach is that it simply hasn't been recorded yet. From what I know, this is one of the last steps in game development. If Al really joins the team, it will probably be his task to write the dialogues and why record them if you don't actaully have them yet?
doern
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| 31 OCT 2003 at 2:29am |
jalexSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By doernpferde (30 OCT 2003 1:37am)
Here something I thought was ... rather interesting!
http://www.allowe.com/L-8news.htm
doern
I would like to add, be sure to scroll all the way down as I had already seen the first part a week ago.
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| 31 OCT 2003 at 6:18am |
jalexSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Who's up for a major boycott/protest list? This is a chance for us to speak up and tell people in the business that what they wrote about Larry fans in the press release is generally far from the truth.
If the game does turns out bad I am all for it but I will have to see a lot more first. I am still hoping that Siera can do adventure games and I want to give them every chance I can.
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| 1 NOV 2003 at 3:01am |
doernpferdeIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Well, in fact it is not their intention to create an adventure game, it will not even have Larry Laffer for protagonist.
I am not at all saying that this has to be a bad thing, in fact I am very positive that the game will be fun, but we have to bear in mind that it will not be an adventure game the way we know it. Everyone who expects that is very likely to be disappointed in the end.
doern
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| 1 NOV 2003 at 8:21pm |
WimliGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Oh my, this thread started with some serious bashing! At the moment there's not enough material available to simply dismiss this game. Now that Al Lowe will get involved with the game, it might actually be a fun game. I thought the trailer looked fine too. For a definite judgement we'll have to wait till next year, but I'm hopeful this game might still turn out to be a good one.
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| 3 NOV 2003 at 6:03am |
flinton35Space Cadet
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Status : Online | I am looking forward to the new Larry however I do feel they to get Al in the game. Also the new Larry looks like Jimmy Neutron. Just a thought.
Matt
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