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| 12 OCT 2003 at 4:11am |
jalexSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Very interesting thread.
I can see that every one has a different view of what eroticism is. I don't have much imagination so for me it's not eroticism unless it's visual like in an R rated movie. I don't see that in hardly any of the game I have played and most of them I wouldn't want to. If a scene like this looks like it was thrown in then I call this Crude. A scene like that has to fit into the story line well to look good. I bought most of the games I have played because I like the story and it really doesn't matter if they have scenes like this or not as long as the graphics fits together with the story.
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| 12 OCT 2003 at 11:54am |
sennebecGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (12 OCT 2003 4:07am)
Hmmm - Not a bad idea there Daryl. Kind of a Huevos Ranchero, Guagolmae Salsa sort of deal...
*the theme from JAWS plays in the background*
OMG ! return of the huevos !
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| 12 OCT 2003 at 12:18pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Perhaps more kinky than erotic, but does anyone remember the guy in the bunny suit from Stupid Invaders? He kidnapped one of the aliens, and I got the distinct impression there was more going on in the bed than was shown.
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| 12 OCT 2003 at 4:06pm |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
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Status : Online | So... Japanese Hentai games, then?
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| 12 OCT 2003 at 11:56pm |
| Deleted User | first hentai means perverse and 2ndhas more to do with extreme hard at the same time unrealistic (tentacle rape) sex that certainly can only be found in the porn category.
The second thing I want to say is about this threat and how people act. Eroticism in conventional adventure games? I believe not. Any classic novel features more love and sensuality then most adventure games unless they are from Japan or so... fact is that there is no western adventure game that has more romance/sensuality then any afternoon sitcom. Ok I know as a European I can see more naked flesh in a shower gel advertisement then in an american adult movie... (sorry I might exxaggerate a bit here but basically it fits the situation). So if you are not strictly religious or from the US erotic usuallly can include some nude lovemaking if it is done in a tasteful matter and as it is shown in almost any moviesince the late 80ies (Dirty Dancing comes to my mind) that has a romantic affair and was not comedy or kids film.
So except some very old french Cocktel Vision games like Fascination or Emanuelle that are both very tame by the way and some other Amiga adventure games like "Holiday Maker", "Jonathan" or "City of Lions" (all 3 real adventure games that had some nude/love scenes/affairs and told a great story by the way) I can't recall any adventure games that were in the slightest way erotic including Gabriel Knight 2 and Co.
If you guys are really looking for games that have erotic (as main theme) there is no other choice as to play some English translation of Japanese manga games. They vary from games like the almost none erotic Princess Maker series where you play a father that has to raise his daughter (so really non sexual until she becomes older and wants to date someone but there isn't to see anything anyways because the games have almost no graphics) to the typical dating sims were you play some guy that wants to find his spouse in thiscategory the games can vary from no lovemaking to extreme sex scenes) and then there are also the "real" adventure games that tell a nice story and once in a while you answer a multiple choice question so these aremore like picture books and they also vary from no nude to extreme sex the later are also often known as hentai games.
What I would really like to see in an adventure game like Longest Journey would be a nice romantic love story with one or two sensual moments that fit well into the main plot. I think that would spice up the story a lot but I'm afraid while in Europe those games would get a rating 6 or 12 (depending on the intensity) in the US they would give it R or even X anyways....
PS: the mobygames site someone posted before features some nice erotic Japanese games as well, but many of the games that are there have nothing to do with an adult theme.
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 12:07am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Ogre (12 OCT 2003 11:56pm)
first hentai means perverse
Well, I knew I liked the word for some reason.
But perverse is as perverse sees. So close your eyes.
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 12:46am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By sennebec (12 OCT 2003 11:53am)
*the theme from JAWS plays in the background*
OMG ! return of the huevos !
LMAO - again -
The Jaws thing makes me a little nervous - but, I'm a giver - Maybe you should start with something like: Huevos over easy...
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 3:40am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (13 OCT 2003 12:46am)
LMAO - again -
The Jaws thing makes me a little nervous - but, I'm a giver - Maybe you should start with something like: Huevos over easy...
Nothing fun is ever 'over easy'.
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 6:49pm |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
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Status : Online | Actually, hentai translates both as 'pornographic' and 'perverted'. It's traditional meaning usually indicates a severe and/or bizarre, excessive sexual situation.
Which is where the whole tentacle rape comes into it. Also, because they are traditionally not always permitted to show male genitalia in Japanese anime (this is not always true, but most companies are willing to push the envelope nowadays), tentacles would be used to symbolise this. Think Lovecraft, but icky.
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 7:18pm |
ConMolSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Even though its not really erotic, and not really an adventure game....ever since I tried a little game called Final Fantasy X, I haven't been able to get into Runaway...
And here's the thing - I don't like combat. But the love story, the epic feeling of the game and the cinema
will blow you away.
Go here and download the spring movie for FFX to see the most beautiful and realistic animation in a full motion video you will ever see.
http://www.rpgdreamer.com/movies.html
Its not erotic but it does invoke emotions and I really think thats been missing from adventures.
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 8:35pm |
| Deleted User | Ok, I haven't read the whole thread but I do want to reply:
It's like in the Movie/TV industry.
Shoot eachothers brain out, kill everybody in site, but don't show a female nipple or a lot of us get freaked out.
Randy-JA posted:
whatsamatter Senne, no Playboy or Spice channels in your area?
Whatsamatter Randy, no action, horror, SF or adventure movies/mags/comics in your area?
I mean: It seams to be normal to get our dose of murder, killing, action, horror, hating, crying, fighting everyday (negative emotions), but if we're talking about erotisism and sex we have a big problem, Houston.
No adventures with real serious loving, caring, erotics and sex (In short: positive emotions) other then a few funbased larry's etc. Just no real adventures.
Why?
It will not sell. You know why it won't sell: because when there is a real adventure with these elements, the game will be hyped and nobody will buy because you just can't buy a "SEXGAME". It's not appropriate.
Like we are not alowed to watch/experience these emotions.
It's very apropriate to buy DOOM 3, though.
There is of course one positive emotion in a lot of games: humor. Thank God for that.
IMHO, that is.
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 9:55pm |
ConMolSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Sir, you're right...no adventures with real loving or emotion. It may be because its impossible to make it look real and not ludicrous? Again, I point you to the FFX movie to show how good an animated kiss can be.
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 10:59pm |
Erwin_BrPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | I don't know if you guys consider Tender Loving Care an adventure, but it had pretty explicit scenes. It's rated 18+ and they're showing more then just a naked back, or shoulders.
--Erwin
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| 13 OCT 2003 at 11:04pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Erwin_Br (13 OCT 2003 10:59pm)
I don't know if you guys consider Tender Loving Care an adventure, but it had pretty explicit scenes. It's rated 18+ and they're showing more then just a naked back, or shoulders.
Didn't you read this thread? :
I forgot my sig.
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| 14 OCT 2003 at 12:12am |
| Deleted User | Well I guess Tender Loving Care is not a real "real" adventure...
And as I said before... when it comes to erotic or sex what is rated 18 in the US is rated 12 in other countries... so much for that...
TLC isn't really explicit it's just well "erotic" in a sense that the pilot of the old Baywatch tv-series had more sex and nude scenes in it (they very fast forgot about that in the series itself, though) and has a rating 6 years and up in most European countries...
Besides I disagree with Sir Funkenstein jr. a well made(!) game in the tradition of Broken Sword or Longest Journey that had a love story involved including some romantic nude/love scenes could become a hit compared to other adventure games. And if the main subject of the game isn't sex but a good story nobody would really make a fuss of it at least not in countries other then the US. The games Holiday maker, Jonathan and City of Lions from Software 2000 had that and were among the most successful games here at that time (around 1990, they were released on Amiga so the graphics was much better then PC's at that time - actually the games had retouched scanned photos with real actors that were painted over).
About the violence:
Kid in a salesmarket...
Kid: I want a copy of Quake and a shotgun
Salesman: Sorry kid, can't sell you the game cause you're too young. And here is your gun....
What is it with Americans that violence is so accepted and good things like sex are strictly prohibited??? I really can't understand people like that... ???
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| 14 OCT 2003 at 1:45am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Ogre (14 OCT 2003 12:12am)
Well I guess Tender Loving Care is not a real "real" adventure...
It is somewhat close to an adventure game I think... call it an interactive movie. But it's really more than that.
TLC isn't really explicit it's just well "erotic" in a sense that the pilot of the old Baywatch tv-series had more sex and nude scenes in it (they very fast forgot about that in the series itself, though) and has a rating 6 years and up in most European countries...
Are you sure you're not exaggerating just a little bit? 6 years and up for TLC? I'd love to see some proof. Surely the written material in TLC counts as very explicit? Do I need to post some quotes? :
What is it with Americans that violence is so accepted and good things like sex are strictly prohibited??? I really can't understand people like that... ???
Americans can't either
I forgot my sig.
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| 14 OCT 2003 at 1:07pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Ogre (14 OCT 2003 12:12am)
Besides I disagree with Sir Funkenstein jr. a well made(!) game in the tradition of Broken Sword or Longest Journey that had a love story involved including some romantic nude/love scenes could become a hit compared to other adventure games. And if the main subject of the game isn't sex but a good story nobody would really make a fuss of it at least not in countries other then the US. The games Holiday maker, Jonathan and City of Lions from Software 2000 had that and were among the most successful games here at that time (around 1990, they were released on Amiga so the graphics was much better then PC's at that time - actually the games had retouched scanned photos with real actors that were painted over).
Haven't seen any nudity in TLJ or any romances. Please tell me about it.
I haven't played BS2, perhaps there?
Then you're talking about games released in 1990? I guess you just took my point.
Way too much violent games. Too many to mention. And we're still talking about TLC or so. Where there is some sex. Whooooohaaaaaa.
It's not that I buy a game for these emotions alone, but it's just that there aren't any games with these emotions at all. And thos emotions are more normal to me then killing people.
About the violence:
Kid in a salesmarket...
Kid: I want a copy of Quake and a shotgun
Salesman: Sorry kid, can't sell you the game cause you're too young. And here is your gun....
LOL, great one, Ogre.
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| 14 OCT 2003 at 4:55pm |
| Deleted User | Are you sure you're not exaggerating just a little bit? 6 years and up for TLC? I'd love to see some proof. Surely the written material in TLC counts as very explicit? Do I need to post some quotes? :
Sorry, I meant Baywatch has the 6 years rating and that had some "hot" love/nude scenes in the pilot.
TLC as a movie would get a 12 rating and as a game a 16 rating here which also shows that games are stricter regulated then movies here.
Then you're talking about games released in 1990? I guess you just took my point.
Way too much violent games. Too many to mention. And we're still talking about TLC or so. Where there is some sex. Whooooohaaaaaa.
It's not that I buy a game for these emotions alone, but it's just that there aren't any games with these emotions at all. And thos emotions are more normal to me then killing people.
I agreed that I miss some love/romance and erotic/sex in todays (adventure) games and that publishers tend to think violence sells and people in the US don't make such a big fuss about it, just look at GTA Vice City.
Does someone remember the old Cinemaware game Defender of the Crown, even though it was a strategy game after rescuing the princess it had a very romantic lovemaking scene that fit in perfectly and everybody just loved that scene.
Well sex sells but as we can see in BMX XXX that had to be censored in the US even though it just showed some naked breasts it isn't always working to spice a game up with nude scenes. The game still is horrible with or without it.
LOL, great one, Ogre.
Honestly saying that was a rip off from a comic strip I once read somewhere that I just changed into a dialogue at least in the way I remembered it. But I thought it fit perfectly.
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| 14 OCT 2003 at 9:47pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Ogre (14 OCT 2003 4:54pm)
Well sex sells but as we can see in BMX XXX that had to be censored in the US even though it just showed some naked breasts it isn't always working to spice a game up with nude scenes. The game still is horrible with or without it.
Exactly. Doesn't have anything to with erotisism. Riding naked on a bike. That's not normal emotions to me.
Honestly saying that was a rip off from a comic strip I once read somewhere that I just changed into a dialogue at least in the way I remembered it. But I thought it fit perfectly.
It was perfectly placed, then.
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| 14 OCT 2003 at 10:05pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Sennebec:
Sorry about the poor response to your thread. There's only been 1821 hits on it. Guess no one's interested in this subject!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 15 OCT 2003 at 9:40am |
pleto4_ryanIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I am not sure if anyone named it...But "The Legend of Lotus spring" is said to be a good erotic adventure
The Last Grim Journey Is Life...
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| 15 OCT 2003 at 9:59am |
| Deleted User | No it isn't... Lotus Spring is supposed to be an adventure game for women. The Background story is that the Chinese Emporer is in love with Lotus but his wife the empress is jealous and bans her into a huge garden that is on an island. One day Lotus disappears and the player has the task to find her. That works Myst-like with static render screens and lots of puzzles. While solving the game you can read parts of Lotus diary and get more insights about her relationship to the emporer.
[img]http://www.adventure-archiv.com/t/lotusreview12a.jpg[/img]
And here are a few screenshots of the games I mentioned before:
Holiday Maker:
http://private.freepage.de/mo/if/d/holiday_aw1.jpg
http://private.freepage.de/mo/if/d/holiday_aw3.jpg
http://private.freepage.de/mo/if/d/drachhol_a3.jpg
Jonathan:
http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/pic/jonathan-b.png
http://private.freepage.de/mo/if/d/jonathan_a1.jpg
City of Lions:
http://private.freepage.de/mo/if/d/loewen_ad.jpg
http://private.freepage.de/mo/if/d/loewen_a2.jpg
Sure the graphics is outdated but those games really had great stories., nice puzzles and also some romance including nude scenes.
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| 16 OCT 2003 at 1:23pm |
MissBSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I played "Lotus Spring" and enjoyed it, but I wouldn't consider it erotic at all. It was all about romance, and I don't remember any nudity or suggestive scenes (but it's been a year since I played so I may have forgotten). Pretty good game overall, interactive romance novel material.
My name is Bethany and I'm the daughter of Gamergal/Michelle.
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| 17 OCT 2003 at 2:34am |
sennebecGuild Master
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Location: US, maine
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SirDave (14 OCT 2003 10:05pm)
Sennebec:
Sorry about the poor response to your thread. There's only been 1821 hits on it. Guess no one's interested in this subject!
and it's so civilized too...
hot spot indeed !
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