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Topic: Did we like Runaway? (no spoilers)

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19 SEP 2003 at 6:41pm

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My wife and I just finished Runaway last night, and darned if neither one of us can figure out whether we enjoyed it.

The good:
  • Excellent graphics (best 3d models I've ever seen in an adventure game) and cutscenes
  • Good story and characters
  • Cool, usable interface
  • Good music (especially the version of the theme song playing outside the bus)

The bad:
  • You often can't pick up visible items until your character knows what to do with them- even if you already know.
  • For hidden items, you often have to search the same place mutiple times throughout the game- but your character will only discover the items when he needs them. This results in a lot of backtracking.
  • Maybe this is because we played on a 15-inch screen, but there were 3 times where we simply could not see an item we needed in a given location- even after a walkthrough told us where to find it. Pixel hunting is especially rough for us because my wife "drives" when we play and she does not have the patience to run the mouse over every single scanline on the screen to find an item.
  • The solutions to two of the puzzles were so crazy that we didn't understand why the solution worked even after resorting to a walkthrough.

So, that's 4 for, and 4 against. Looking over the "bad" list, it seems like none of our criticisms are really showstoppers- so I guess we did enjoy the game afterall, despite the aforementioned frustrations.

Before posting this, I did a search of the whole forum for "Runaway" and I was surprised not to find any messages specifically about this game. (Maybe I didn't search back far enough?) Did anyone else who played Runaway really love it or really hate it? I'd like to know.

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19 SEP 2003 at 7:26pm

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Yes, well it was a good game overall, but to tell the truth I was expecting a bit more, just had my standards set a bit to high I guess, what with all the waiting and all...
A bit of annoying pixel hunting as well, had to sweep the screen a lot.
All in all I think the good points win over the bad ones.

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19 SEP 2003 at 7:33pm

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I think my expectations were for something a bit more but all in all enjoyed it.  

It did give me a sense:  okay it's finished, nice game and now what is next instead after this wait of wait a feeling that I had just lost something.

Graphics and characters were good and yes there was some pixel hunting but not much.

It did have a decent length ending cut scene.

Maybe it was all the hype and anticipation.

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19 SEP 2003 at 8:29pm

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It was nice, but not great.
The background graphics were okay, the music was nice too, but again - nothing spectacular. For me, the biggest downsides were story and puzzle design (triggers - argh!).
I guess i enjoyed it, but I won't install it again anytime soon.

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19 SEP 2003 at 9:42pm

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Originally Posted By Gayle (19 SEP 2003 7:33pm)
It did have a decent length ending cut scene.


That's true, it did. And it's one of those games that rewards you for watching the credits.

I have played a number of games with really dinky, unsatisfying end scenes lately though. What up with that?


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19 SEP 2003 at 10:29pm

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Likewise here. After waiting for it for so long it the shortness of it was a bit of a let down. Still, a very good game -- I look forward to the potential sequel.



 


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19 SEP 2003 at 11:04pm
Deleted UserThe length was too short. Generally I liked it though. Some puzzles were great and some were not.

Again like most adventure games, I had trouble for object hunting. Am I careless or is it the game?
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I liked the humour. Again, it was toooooo short. Loved the graphics and I wish for a sequal.

edit: hey, I wrote exactly what Adro wrote.


20 SEP 2003 at 3:00am

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The pixel hunting totally ruined it for me. I also didn't like the main guy's voice acting, and the puzzle triggers were painful.

On the other hand: the plot was decent, the cutscenes were top-notch and, unlike many others here, I actually enjoyed the puzzles (forgetting about the trigger stuff, that is)

And it's a short game. Now I'm certainly not the speediest player around, but it only took me a weekend of heavy playing to finish. And when you break down the time spent, I probably spent half the time playing the game and half the time searching for activated triggers and scrubbing the screen. By my standards, an unacceptable balance.

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20 SEP 2003 at 10:09pm

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Did *I* like Runaway?  Well, I can't seem to find it anywhere!  So I can't play it and answer that question.  Yet.  This brings up another question: Where can I find Runaway?  I'm guessing online or another country, because unless it was released this week, it's not in any stores in my area.

This thread is helpful - hearing everyone's opinions help me decide how soon I should rush out and buy it (once I find it, that is).  

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21 SEP 2003 at 12:38am

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Originally Posted By Susan (20 SEP 2003 10:09pm)
This brings up another question: Where can I find Runaway?


It came out a few weeks ago, but I haven't seen it at any local stores (Portland, Oregon). I pre-ordered it from Amazon. It actually ended up getting to me at least a week late because so many people had pre-ordered it that it sold out before all the orders were fulfilled!


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21 SEP 2003 at 1:45am

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I was over at Electronic Boutique today and they had one copy on the shelves so there is a place to try and get it.  Another place might be Fry's or Best Buy.

Sorry, assuming you are in the States.

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21 SEP 2003 at 1:59am

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STOP.some of us are still waiting for this game.Now if this is a global village And ja is world wide WHY CAN`T THE GAMES BE RELEASED WORLD WIDE?Sorry. I was shouting.Slight rant. :-[ :-[ :-[

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21 SEP 2003 at 11:58am

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susan... amazon has got it !  

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21 SEP 2003 at 3:55pm

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Well, I've not played it yet.
But once I can afford it, I will.  

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21 SEP 2003 at 4:45pm

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Much too short for the price (finished it in two days, and the darned thing cost around 50$).
The graphics were good, apart from two cutscenes near the end where they looked like blurry 3D (but they were still ok).
I liked the it near the end where you saw all those bits from other pendulo games (and MI3 too) in the background.

The voice acting was ok... Gina's voice was aweful which made her character worse (I pretty much disliked her from the start). Brian's voice was ok, but occasionally he sounded like Kermit the frog, especially when excited about something.
The two thugs could have been so much better...their voices were ok but their characters were missed out.

I liked the fact that even though alot of the characters were cliches, they all had a certain twist to them.

The story was a little weak in my taste, and you only pretty much reveal everything near the end (no hints along the way either...).

Ah, the pixel hunting. I got stuck right at the begining because of missing two spots (that after careful examination too). Let's just say that they could've done better with the pixel hunting (you know, make an object slightly larger, or colored differently than the background or even allow highlighting).

There were some puzzle solutions that were very 'cartoony', but usually you knew why you were doing something (especially since Brian had the habbit of shouting 'Yes' whenever you did something right.)

Did I say the game was too short? Another act or two and some more hints about the plot could've really made this game better. Oh, also I didn't like the fact that you couldn't directly overwrite your game saves (and I made it through this game with less than 30 saves...something which rarely happens even with overwriting).


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21 SEP 2003 at 5:11pm

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Originally Posted By Shany (21 SEP 2003 4:45pm)
Brian's voice was ok, but occasionally he sounded like Kermit the frog, especially when excited about something.



Heh.... "It indubitably looks like an artichoke!"


 


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21 SEP 2003 at 8:23pm

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Originally Posted By Anne (21 SEP 2003 1:59am)
STOP.some of us are still waiting for this game.

GMXMedia? Don't bother, ebgames.com ships Runaway international. Got my (completely English) copy just last week. Looks fine so far (but I'm only in chapter 2 yet so...).


Can't say whether or not a game is short or long. I do not have long periods of time available to play games, so I do it in parts. And since, I do not keep track of the time I play each day, when I finish it I don't know how long I have been playing. Plus, because I only play a bit each day, it takes some time to finish the game nonetheless, so I do not perceive the game as 'short'.


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22 SEP 2003 at 4:28am

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Originally Posted By Gayle (21 SEP 2003 1:45am)
I was over at Electronic Boutique today and they had one copy on the shelves so there is a place to try and get it.  Another place might be Fry's or Best Buy.

Sorry, assuming you are in the States.

Yes, I live in Minnesota.  The EB in my area doesn't carry many adventure games.  But the Best Buy that's close to it does.  


susan... amazon has got it !  

Plan B is to get it online.  Usually it's cheaper for me to just pay sales tax than to pay for shipping, which is why I opt for buying something in the store, but I see Amazon has free Super Saver Shipping for this product.  And when I buy it in the store, I can play it that same day!  


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22 SEP 2003 at 1:32pm

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Hmm.  
id I like Runaway.  It's hard to say.  This game was hyped up like crazy due to the delays and all, so I was definitely expecting more. The story was kind of cool, even though it had massive plotholes and was a tad uneven at times.  The puzzles were a PAIN and the game was let down by massive pixel hunts and a lack of a real climax.  

And Brian and Gina... oy.  I couldn't stand either of them.  Brian and Gina were two completely uninteresting, unappealing and unlikeable people.  I wanted to slap them both.  

I liked the NPCs though.  Is it sad when you find the NPCs more interesting than the main characters?  I want to see a spin-off game starring those three drag queens.

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22 SEP 2003 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted By KillTheGrimace (19 SEP 2003 6:40pm)
Pixel hunting is especially rough for us because my wife "drives" when we play and she does not have the patience to run the mouse over every single scanline on the screen to find an item.


Yep, I can see a big problem there.




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22 SEP 2003 at 4:24pm

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Originally Posted By Shany (21 SEP 2003 4:45pm)
Brian's voice was ok, but occasionally he sounded like Kermit the frog, especially when excited about something.

Hah! He did sound dead-on Kermit the frog sometimes. That was pretty funny.

Also, did you notice how Oscar and Saturn said "What?" really weird? They said it as if you had just told them something really insane, when all you were doing was trying to start a conversation with them.

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22 SEP 2003 at 4:26pm

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Originally Posted By Sir Funkenstein jr. (22 SEP 2003 3:19pm)


Yep, I can see a big problem there.




(Can't kill the grimace on this one KTG, Just can't)


Well it usually works out okay.



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22 SEP 2003 at 4:37pm

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Oh- one other major annoyance- the game has a "maximum install" option that requires you to insert all three CDs to install the game, BUT YOU STILL NEED ALL THREE DISCS TO PLAY THE GAME!

What's more, you always have to insert disc 1 to start Runaway, and then you have to insert the CD you were on when you last saved!

Question 1: Why offer a maximum install option when you still need all 3 CDs to play?

Question 2: If you were going to require every CD to complete the game anyway, why not let each disc qualify as a "start disc"?

Please game developers, always allow full installs of your games. It's okay if you requre disc 1 as a start disc for copy protection reasons, but don't make players insert multiple CDs just to load a saved game.

Oh... and if you absolutely must require massive disc swapping to play your game, PUT THE DISCS IN FREAKING JEWEL CASES! The envelopes are barely acceptable as it is, but when you then require that people keep swapping CDs you put your customers at risk of papercuts and smudged discs.



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22 SEP 2003 at 9:00pm

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Well "KillTheGrimace" you really nailed the Good things right on the spot. So far I can not give my final thoughts on the game since I just started it. But so far I am really having a great time playing it. The difficult side in the game dont bother me that much since I like a bit of a "nut cracker" for a game. I prefer this kind with a lot of hard puzzles compared to Syberia (for ex.) which was a "walk in the park". But then again I am not a "newbie" when it comes to adv gaming.



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22 SEP 2003 at 9:57pm

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Originally Posted By KillTheGrimace (22 SEP 2003 4:36pm)

Question 1: Why offer a maximum install option when you still need all 3 CDs to play?



Question 2: If you were going to require every CD to complete the game anyway, why not let each disc qualify as a "start disc"?

That is such an annoying pain!  I want to know how that makes it past the beta testers.  Titanic: Adventure Out of Time was/is like that.  The entire game takes place on CD 2 ... but guess what CD you have to put in to get the game going?   :
 Myst 3 is like that as well.  Argh!  But I'm loving the fact that I have a DVD & CD-R drive that double as normal CD drives.  No disk swapping for me!  

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