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| 17 SEP 2003 at 2:10am |
szcaxJourneyman
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Status : Online | Exactly, MichalN!
I loved the base10/base8/base16 puzzles in Rama, my friend thought they were too hard, the numbers got too big at the end, and they should've given you more time to solve them. I was disappointed they left out multiplication and division!
Black holes are where God divided by zero
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 7:34am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Michal is correct. In-game hints are a good thing, and UHS-style gradual hints are even better. Why force someone to go snooping around the internet for a guide when they need help? If you wanna penalize people for doing so with a point deduction, that's fine, but I don't think there's anything as negative as Fickfack says about giving the user the option.
Pandora Directive probably had the best in-game hint system I've seen. Phantasmagoria had one too, but it a way easier game overall so it wasn't as necessary.
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 10:29am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By MichalN (17 SEP 2003 1:38am)
That would be true if puzzle difficulty was absolute. Except it's not! Games which some people consider easy can be judged as difficult by others. Maybe you're one of the geniuses who never need hints. I'm not. Even if I was, I wouldn't try to impose my standards on others, it won't work anyway
I'm certainly not one of the geniuses that never need hints. My point was that a good puzzle shouldn't require you to use a walkthrough at all.
The tendency is that if you have access to in-game hints you get lazy. I've found that having access to them somewhat spoiled Byzantine for me because any time I couldn't figure out what was going on, I immediately went to the hint system. If you don't even need to quit the game to get an automatic hint, it just encourages you not to bother.
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 2:12pm |
emmaPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | *giggle giggle snort* From Myst to homosexuality to base 16! You just gotta love this place!
Sir Dave, absolutely wonderful post, was very happy to read it, this is exactly how I feel. I get completely lost in the worlds of Myst, and am in reality a very easily bored or distracted person. Need to feel stimulated, even though it's in a laid back environment. Having to talk to people in games usually grows a bit tiresome to me, since I can't become introvert then, I have to be extrovert which is less relaxing to me in the long run.
Thanks, it has been a great read!
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 3:33pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Emma, you are a veritable gentlewoman and a scholar.....and a great judge of posts !
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 6:32pm |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
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Status : Online | I can assure you, not all gay people love Myst.
On that topic, I don't much care for Myst. But that's because it just flat-out wasn't my kind of game. It played more like a large playground full of puzzles, to me at least.
Because of that, I've not played Riven or Exile.
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 7:22pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Wolfboy (17 SEP 2003 6:32pm)
I can assure you, not all gay people love Myst.
Hmmm. I feel better already!
However, on another subject: You've got to wonder about those Sirrus & Achenar guys- torture chambers, self-esteem issues &/or delusions of grandeur, problems with Daddy- all sorts of Freudian possibilities there!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 9:36pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By SirDave (17 SEP 2003 7:21pm)
Hmmm. I feel better already!
What! Turning your back on your fellow lesbians!
However, on another subject: You've got to wonder about those Sirrus & Achenar guys- torture chambers, self-esteem issues &/or delusions of grandeur, problems with Daddy- all sorts of Freudian possibilities there!
It runs in the dysfunctional family, doesn't it. Daddy had quite a few problems of his own with Granddaddy.
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| 17 SEP 2003 at 11:15pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Betje (17 SEP 2003 9:36pm)
It runs in the dysfunctional family, doesn't it. Daddy had quite a few problems of his own with Granddaddy.
You're right, Grand-Dad was a piece of work- looks like his psychosis jumped a generation. Maybe there's a warning there: beware of creating life by writing in books; you may start thinking you're some sort of God or something.....
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 18 SEP 2003 at 5:54am |
KsandraSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By SirDave (17 SEP 2003 7:21pm)
However, on another subject: You've got to wonder about those Sirrus & Achenar guys- torture chambers, self-esteem issues &/or delusions of grandeur, problems with Daddy- all sorts of Freudian possibilities there!
Yes, there was definitely something very weird going on with those two.
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| 19 SEP 2003 at 1:45am |
WimliGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Wolfboy (17 SEP 2003 6:32pm)
I can assure you, not all gay people love Myst.
I totally agree with that one.
I have played Myst and must say that I didn't like the way the story was told, though I did like the puzzles and immersion into the gaming world. I just felt too detached from the plot. I haven't played Riven yet and only a part of Exile, so I don't know whether I would like them better. there are a bunch of Myst-like (just to avoid the word clone ) games that I like more than Myst itself, like Rama and Lighthouse. The difference is immediately clear: those games featured stories where you, the player, were part of the story all the time, it wasn't something that had already happened. Just my two cents.
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 1:47pm |
| Deleted User | You haven't played Riven? > GET THEE TO EBAY!
As for the whole homosexuality thing, whatever pushes your buttons.
Heh...
Heheh...
MMpphhh....
You see what I did there? Heh... ah....
Ahem.
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 1:55pm |
AnneGuild Master
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Status : Online | We averted our eyes.Go andwash your hands. :
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 5:00pm |
| Deleted User | I was supposed to be laughing at my own joke. It wasn't intended to be masturbatory.
Eeew!
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 5:09pm |
AnneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Gee,I can`t lose that teacher bit
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 6:21pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MonkeyFunky (23 SEP 2003 5:00pm)
I was supposed to be laughing at my own joke. It wasn't intended to be masturbatory.
Eeew!
masturbatory? Sounds more like a noun than an adjective. Like you do labwork in a laboratory and then..whatever..in a masturbatory. :
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 23 SEP 2003 at 6:25pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By SirDave (23 SEP 2003 6:21pm)
masturbatory? Sounds more like a noun than an adjective. Like you do labwork in a laboratory and then..whatever..in a masturbatory. :
That reminded me of this article:
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,484153,00.html
Check out the job #3.
I forgot my sig.
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| 24 SEP 2003 at 8:33pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By MichalN (23 SEP 2003 6:25pm)
Check out the job #3.
euhhhhhr
10. POSTDOC
ouch! controversial...
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| 25 SEP 2003 at 12:04am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Ah-h-h, brings back nostalgic memories of my summer college job artificially inseminating Jersey heffers!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 25 SEP 2003 at 2:47am |
mszvPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Stopped in here to see what had happened to this thread - time to get it "nearly" back on track - SirDave!
Regards, mszv
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| 25 SEP 2003 at 3:41am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By mszv (25 SEP 2003 2:46am)
Stopped in here to see what had happened to this thread - time to get it "nearly" back on track - SirDave!
mszv- I just assumed that a bright guy like you would immediately appreciate the connection between Myst, Riven, & Clone plots and the need to impregnate Jersey heffers! :
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 25 SEP 2003 at 7:14am |
mszvPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Suddenly it's all clear!
With a Myst, Riven, and Clone plot, all things are possible!
I do love them, you know.
Regards, mszv
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| 26 SEP 2003 at 9:57pm |
AltbauIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Wolfboy (17 SEP 2003 6:32pm)
I can assure you, not all gay people love Myst.
But some do
Yes, I had to say that - just had to
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| 27 SEP 2003 at 3:29am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Altbau (26 SEP 2003 9:57pm)
But some do
Yes, I had to say that - just had to
Yep - just don't expect the rest of us to fall in line -
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