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27 JUL 2003 at 2:26am
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That final puzzle in Obsidian had me cussing like a foul mouthed marine at first.

But I think it is the best closing puzzle ever, now in retrospect. It wins my vote. for the best end scene in Adventure gaming. Er, lost track of the point of the thread, Ray is angry about something or other.....

Aren't we all




27 JUL 2003 at 6:16am

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I'd like to make all game developers play Obsidian.  It was a sublime game.  It always crashed on my old pc when I changed discs until eventually it just wouldn't play.  :'(  I had to upgrade my pc for Exile anyway.  Imagine my sheer delight when I loaded Obsidian and discovered that not only did it not crash, but that it ran better and looked better.  When Daryl played it I loaded a save game and went back to the Spider.  I just loved it when it moves and scoops you up into its mouth.  Brilliant use of perspective.  I got such a thrill out of the inventiveness and creativitiy of that whole joke.  It took me a year to complete.  I filled pages trying to crack the chemistry puzzle.  The end game had me goggle eyed but I got there in the end.  I loved every minute of it.  Right up there with Riven and Timelapse in my mind.  And to think I got it on a bargain table and only bought it because I had no game to play.  HA!  I spend ages looking for another such 'bargain'.

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3 AUG 2003 at 7:25pm

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lol, nice little letter.

Currently Playing: bloody Traitors Gate&&&&Just finished: Syberia II

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5 AUG 2003 at 2:39pm
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We adventure gamers are the biggest bunch of hair-triggered, provincial, neophobic, judgmental whiny babies since that huge group of southern American women who, sixty-five years ago, threatened to boycott the film of “Gone With the Wind” because David O. Selznick hired a Brit to play Scarlet O’Hara.


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6 AUG 2003 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted By Sir Funkenstein jr. (5 AUG 2003 2:39pm)
We adventure gamers are the biggest bunch of hair-triggered, provincial, neophobic, judgmental whiny babies since that huge group of southern American women who, sixty-five years ago, threatened to boycott the film of “Gone With the Wind” because David O. Selznick hired a Brit to play Scarlet O’Hara.

LOL
I never new about this boycott. Interesting.


6 AUG 2003 at 10:00pm

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But they banned booze.We might never have had `Guys and Dolls`

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13 DEC 2003 at 5:28am

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Well I think Ray missed the point slightly. There was some truth in what was said in that Quote. The problem was that if he would have kept some of the swaring out of it people might have payed more atention to the point he was trying to make.  I am not agaist changes but a lot of these new games are changed so radicaly that they are no longer Adventure games or Action games either.  I am afraid we are loosing some of the good things that belong in an adventure game in the process. It is now becomming a real job just to get through some on them and it's suposed to be fun and relaxing.





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13 DEC 2003 at 7:40am

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When I read letters like the one you quoted, I wonder what goes through their minds when they are proved wrong, for instance, when they finally see that George never weilds a gun in the whole game.


Steve,
You are missing one point. There are other things action game engines do besides shoot things that are not good for adventure games.  I won't mention them as I am sure you know what they are.


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13 DEC 2003 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted By jalex (13 DEC 2003 7:40am)

Steve,
You are missing one point. There are other things action game engines do besides shoot things that are not good for adventure games.  I won't mention them as I am sure you know what they are.

Such as?
Have you actually played Broken Sword 3?

13 DEC 2003 at 5:07pm

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Ah, the joys of posting on a 4 month old post as if it had been started yesterday.

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13 DEC 2003 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted By jujigatame (13 DEC 2003 5:07pm)
Ah, the joys of posting on a 4 month old post as if it had been started yesterday.

From our point of view, it's four months old. If jalex missed it the first time, it's new for him, and it's not his fault we're sick and tired of the thread.



14 DEC 2003 at 6:54am

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Such as?
Have you actually played Broken Sword 3?

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No, Have you?
I do have it ordered though.  And I do know a lot about  using Action game engines or keyboard control for adventure games as I used to write them for the Amiga.


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14 DEC 2003 at 11:15am

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Originally Posted By jalex (14 DEC 2003 6:54am)

Flickflack
No, Have you?
I do have it ordered though.  And I do know a lot about  using Action game engines or keyboard control for adventure games as I used to write them for the Amiga.


I really wish people would stop with the 3D engine=action crap. BS3 is pure adventure that happens to use a different interface. Whether you like the interface or not is your own personal preferences, but don't dismiss it as an action game just because you can't move the character around. Pandora Directive one of my favourite games was direct control and it's held up as one of the best adventures created.
Grim Fandango uses an identical control system and it is superb.

It's just a different way of presenting adventures.

Rays article was spot on and makes for fantastic reading.
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15 DEC 2003 at 1:47am
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Originally Posted By jalex (14 DEC 2003 6:54am)

Flickflack
No, Have you?
I do have it ordered though.  And I do know a lot about  using Action game engines or keyboard control for adventure games as I used to write them for the Amiga.

I haven't, so I'm not going to make blanket statements about it.
My only point is that you shouldn't prejudge it based on the interface. Also, my name is not Flickflack.


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Gesundheit!

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16 DEC 2003 at 11:35pm

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Originally Posted By Fickfack (15 DEC 2003 1:47am)
My only point is that you shouldn't prejudge it based on the interface.
Exactly! Just because the interface is direct control does not mean a game will be an action game.

Remember that there was a time when computers didnt have a mouse at all!

Some examples of direct control adventures: Kings Quest 1-4, Space Quest 1-3, Quest for Glory 1-2, Leisure Suit Larry 1-3. And we cant forget more recent games like Grim Fandango and Monkey Island 4.

Some adventures that combine direct control with mouse control: GK3, Amazon: Guardians of Eden, Tex Murphy series.
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