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| 15 JUL 2003 at 9:04pm |
JoGuild Master
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Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | Eva said finally got around to finishing Post Mortem. It was an okay game but I feel the rather interesting story could have been explored much more -
I've quite enjoyed it so far, but as I think someone here said, it sort of goes off in a tangent giving you clues to something you haven't got to as yet. I find that pretty annoying - and the other thing, is it my imagination or is there a "dreaded Maze"? Or somehing similar to one anyway? If you've played it you'll know where I mean (don't want to give it away to anyone who hasn't played it yet)
God I really hate mazes, they always seem so pointless. I could be wrong of course as I finished at that point yesterday.
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| 15 JUL 2003 at 9:16pm |
EvaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By narji (15 JUL 2003 9:03pm)
there a "dreaded Maze"? Or somehing similar to one anyway?
No, it's not really a maze, more of a puzzle - there aren't as many opportunities as it seems...
Btw, a couple of times I had to use hints in this game because the screen was so dark!
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| 15 JUL 2003 at 9:21pm |
JoGuild Master
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Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | O.K. thanks Eva. Actually I used a hint for the sketch in the end - got fed up with that part, but other than that I rather like it. Can't say I've had too many problems with the screen being too dark though.
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| 15 JUL 2003 at 9:58pm |
WimliGuild Master
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Joined: 14 MAR 2003
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By lakerz (15 JUL 2003 7:41pm)
I don't begrudge the developers of Schizm for including more detail and interactivity in the DVD version as compared to the CD version. I read somewhere that they would need something like 12 (or maybe more) cd's to equal what's on the DVD, and it's just not reasonable. Also, if more developers starting including extras on DVD versions, or just started making the games for DVD period, it might finally launch the DVD format into the mainstream where it needs to be. All the console systems have wisened up and are using (or will be using) a variant of DVD technology as media for their current or next-gen systems. DVD players are priced low enough now to where everyone could actually afford one. We just need the software developers to give us a reason to *need* one.
I partly agree with you. They should have made it clearer from the start that the dvd version had more scenes than the cd version, not something you'd notice afterwards. Secondly, I still think it is unfair that the dvd game is longer than the cd version, even if it would mean the game would have consisted of 12 cds, and again, certainly when they did not make it clear on the packaging of the two versions of the game. The same goes for movies on video and dvd. Yes the dvd contains extras (well, mostly at least), but the film should be the same. I would understand that the dvd-rom version of a game would look better and sound clearer. But to make the dvd-rom version of a game longer than the cd version still sounds like deceit to me.
Apart from that, I agree with you that dvd-rom should be better promoted for games. I don't understand why most developers have left dvd-rom out of consideration for their games. So yes, it would be nice if they gave the dvd-rom version of their game something extra (better graphics, and other extras) as long as the game itself remains the same. Oh well, they'll follow the example of the consoles eventually. :
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| 16 JUL 2003 at 12:45am |
adventuredogGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (15 JUL 2003 1:26pm)
Adventuredog,
let me know what you think of Rhem. It sounds good but I can't find a trace of it anywhere out here. Did you play the demo? It is a very complex ladders, pathways, doors, passages kind of game and looks like I definitely need to make a map. I understand that mapping has already been done and is available but I'll start by trying to make my own.
Still adventuring after all these years!
Patiently awaiting The Last Crown: Haunting of Hallowed Isle, and Bracken Tor...
... and Asylum if it's not tooooo scary...
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| 16 JUL 2003 at 12:52am |
adventuredogGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Eva (15 JUL 2003 1:37pm)
I finally got around to finishing Post Mortem. It was an okay game but I feel the rather interesting story could have been explored much more - but I guess that's the price for non-linearity.... Eva - Did you find all three (or four) endings? I think you are right - the non-linearity required some sacrifice of complexity. It was difficult enough with the branching dialog system to keep from leaking too much info before it had been encountered in the gameplay. I think the developers were on to a good idea. With the next game of this type it will be more sophisticated.
Still adventuring after all these years!
Patiently awaiting The Last Crown: Haunting of Hallowed Isle, and Bracken Tor...
... and Asylum if it's not tooooo scary...
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| 16 JUL 2003 at 11:12am |
EvaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By adventuredog (16 JUL 2003 12:52am)
Eva - Did you find all three (or four) endings?
SPOILER
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I don't think so - the only times I noticed a difference was with the ending conversation, you could get some slightly different cutscenes - the final one was the same though - where did it branch off?
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| 16 JUL 2003 at 4:37pm |
pollodiabloSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 295
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Status : Offline | Timelapse.
Wow, this one's a real challenge! (Some really easy puzzles as well).
Just finished Myst III Exile.
Bought Schizm last weekend, but I have a few more on my "to play" pile
Beta-tester of 'The Path', 'Rhiannon', 'Scratches', 'Hope Springs Eternal', 'Time Stand Still', 'Frasse and the Peas of Kejick', '1893: A World's Fair Mystery', 'Carte Blanche' and 'Oakhaven Plantation' a.o.&&
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| 16 JUL 2003 at 8:11pm |
lakerzPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | True, Wimli, true. I agree that there needs to be a clearer description of what the difference (if there is one) between the dvd version and cd version is for any game. I think the Dreamcatcher website has a note about the extra scenes in the dvd version of Schizm, but I'm not sure of that. I remember a thread on one forum that listed every DVD adventure game available, and what differed between that version and the cd version.
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas...
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| 17 JUL 2003 at 11:24am |
WimliGuild Master
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Status : Offline | As you said before, it remains a fact that dvd is wrongfully forgotten when it comes to games. I only have two dvd-rom games and know of only a handful more. That thread you mentioned seems really interesting. Was it on the JA forum?
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| 17 JUL 2003 at 8:48pm |
lakerzPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | I think it was on GameBoomers Wimli. I found this thread:
http://www.gameboomers.com/ubboard/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=010685#000000
It discusses which DVD games are superior to the cd-rom version.
Here is a thread listing a bunch of DVD games:
http://www.gameboomers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=009726
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas...
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| 17 JUL 2003 at 10:47pm |
WimliGuild Master
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Joined: 14 MAR 2003
Status : Offline | Thanks for the links Lakerz!
Seems like most dvd games are Cryo games. :-/ (not really my cup of tea) Oh well, let's hope that the future will bring better things. Btw: just unbelievable what happened with that Faust dvd version! Wrong sound files played during the ending. Wow, big screw-up of Cryo!
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| 19 JUL 2003 at 4:32am |
Goddess of All Things MagicalSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I JUST FINISHED FREDDY PHARKAS:FRONTIER PHARMACIST-VERY FUNNY GAME. GREAT MUSIC, STORY, AND PUZZLES. IT RAN JUST FINE ON XP.
&&&&Listening to XM Radio Starbucks Cafe Channel 45&&[IMG]http://img227.echo.cx/img227/8458/dancelikenooneiswatching6ld.png[/IMG]
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| 19 JUL 2003 at 1:56pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Finished TLJ two days ago. Yes, it's one of the best adventures I played in a while. But not among the top ranks ever. There is too much talking at times. Sure, there's lots of story, but some conversations are very tiring. The story telling part was worst. Especially the old Alatien... : Puzzles are nice. I admit I looked up some hints once, but the rest was easy enough to figure out on your own.
Currently I'm playing Full Throttle. For the first time, too. Interesting, so far.
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 19 JUL 2003 at 3:55pm |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | You can add this one to my replay list: The Prophecy. It plays as well today as it did 11 years ago when it was first released.
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| 22 JUL 2003 at 5:22pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Finished Black Mirror last night (it was Posel Smrti really, the Czech version). Working on a review.
I forgot my sig.
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| 23 JUL 2003 at 12:39am |
adventuredogGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (22 JUL 2003 5:21pm)
Finished Black Mirror last night (it was Posel Smrti really, the Czech version). Working on a review. Can't wait for your review. Can't wait for the English release! > Everytime I check the site they say "in two months". I wonder if it will come out before the English release of Runaway?
Still adventuring after all these years!
Patiently awaiting The Last Crown: Haunting of Hallowed Isle, and Bracken Tor...
... and Asylum if it's not tooooo scary...
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| 23 JUL 2003 at 12:46am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By adventuredog (23 JUL 2003 12:39am)
Can't wait for your review. Can't wait for the English release! > Everytime I check the site they say "in two months". I wonder if it will come out before the English release of Runaway?
I wouldn't bet on it... then again, if the competition is Runaway, anything's possible The Czech version of Black Mirror was seriously delayed too. I think it was originally supposed to come out before Christmas 2001 or something.
I forgot my sig.
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| 23 JUL 2003 at 12:55am |
adventuredogGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Well, maybe I can experience some of the game vicariously through your review!
Still adventuring after all these years!
Patiently awaiting The Last Crown: Haunting of Hallowed Isle, and Bracken Tor...
... and Asylum if it's not tooooo scary...
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| 23 JUL 2003 at 9:17am |
| Deleted User | Just finished Beyond Atlantis, which as a game has probably the least logical puzzles I've ever come across. Thank goodness for walkthroughs.
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| 23 JUL 2003 at 10:32am |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I'm in the middle of Byzantine the Betrayal. It has the same sort of 'feel' as Black Dahlia. It was developed by the Discovery Channel as an edutainment game, so I'm getting lots of information about the Ottoman Empire.
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 23 JUL 2003 at 12:55pm |
ConMolSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 396
Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I just started the 8th Nancy Drew
- The Haunted Carousel
I just adore these games!
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| 23 JUL 2003 at 6:18pm |
DJ SouzaJourneyman
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Status : Online | You wont believe my luck!
I just bought The Longest Journey, Syberia AND Kings Quest 6!!! The best thing is that, since I bought them second hand, they were REALLY cheap!
(I even got the Monkey Island Madness collection with it)
I am so happy! I never played any of these games (except Monkey Island). I was so excited that it was difficult to choose just one game to start playing. I finally made up my mind and begun The Longest Journey. I am loving it!!
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| 24 JUL 2003 at 1:32am |
MozzaIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Swept through BS1 again on Saturday ("sorry love didn't make the shops - just too busy", and am now on Feeble Files which has a very funny script and is shaping up well. Oh and finished Blade Runner last week but I was a bit disappointed with it. Under the bed and on the conveyor belt are Nightlong, BS1, Pilgrim, The Dig if I can ever get the sound to work, BS1 and Outcast. I was pleased to see some positive comments on Discworld Noir - I thought that had an excellent, extremely funny script and was an exciting, interesting adventure apart from some tedium in trying to talk to that sculptor bloke.
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