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Topic: DOS 4GW conflict with WIN95

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2 NOV 2002 at 10:14pm

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Hi,

I've got a general type tech question maybe Zoly or Jenny100 or syd or one of the tech wizards here I haven't met yet might help me out with.

I have a WIN95b system for older games. Optiplex 200 Pentium (non-MMx) onboard ISA Vibra16, S3 Trio64V+ graphic card with VESA 2 complicance, 3 gig hard drive, 64 mg RAM.

With games like Gene Machine, Callahan's Crosstime Saloon, Case of the Rose Tattoo, I can install the game on Win95. When I hit "play" or click on the D drive or whatever the game wants me to do to launch from Windows the DOS 4gw memory manager from the game then takes over and starts to take me to DOS. Then the system freezes. Just locks up. I have to reboot, let the computer run a diskscan before I can get control back. Control/Alt/Del does nothing. If I go to to pure DOS via f8 or "restart in MS-DOS" and launch from a prompt the game takes right off.

I have plenty of memory (624K in pure Dos) freed up and most of the games only want around 400-500 so it's not that. I've tried NOEMS and RAM in my config.sys lines, even REM'd out HIMEM and EMM386 thinking it was warring memory managers but none of that changes the lockups. Could it be a hardware conflict or something?  I can get the games going in DOS but they should launch via Window just as easily.

This little bug bugs me.  Just wondering what I'm missing here.

Thanks,

Mike

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2 NOV 2002 at 11:46pm

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It could be hardware conflict or it could be software conflict. You could try newer version of DOS4GW - you should run at least 1.97 or possibly 2.01 (you can easily "steal" DOS4GW.EXE from another game). Also make sure you don't have an old version of DOS4GW on the PATH.

My advice would be, if the game runs fine in DOS, run it in DOS - it was designed for DOS and if it doesn't work under Windows, that's a problem of Windows. I'm sure you didn't want to hear that

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3 NOV 2002 at 5:56am

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Hi MichalN

If the game runs fine in DOS, run it in DOS - it was designed for DOS and if it doesn't work under Windows, that's a problem of Windows.


That's sort of the conclusion I came to but I was just wondering why Windows was suddenly balking at launching these games.  My philosophy is NEVER turn your back on Windows. The first little thing you dismiss as unimportent is exactly what is gonna get you in the end.  

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Mike

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3 NOV 2002 at 11:11pm
Deleted UserCurrently I am playing Rose Tattoo on my WIN98.  When I try to start the game I am not able to do it by clicking through my D drive.  However, it starts and runs perfectly from My Computer, Program Files, Sherlock2.

I put an icon shortcut on my desktop.  I can't start the game from there either.  

I have not a clue why it will begin with one approach and not the others.  

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3 NOV 2002 at 11:55pm

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Maybe the game needs to be run from a specific directory or perhaps it needs some special settings. Whatever it is, the conditions are probably satisfied when you run it through Program Files but not otherwise. I've never seen this game so I'm just guessing.
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4 NOV 2002 at 12:01am

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Harriet, check out the shorcut in the folder Sherlock2. Theres probably some parameters passed in the command line; that could be the reason that it doesn't work if you create the shortcut.
I played the game but I don't remember exactly how I ran it.

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4 NOV 2002 at 12:30am

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Harriet,

I've run into the same thing. Some games I can launch just by clicking on the exe file via Windows Explorer. I'm playing Discworld this way now. I can't get it to run any other way than by clicking on the file directly on the hard drive. Flight of the Amazon Queen is the same way. At least there always seems to be a work around to get the games going.

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