| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:11pm |
StammerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By sennebec (1 JUN 2003 3:45pm)
pixar studios !
shame on you godfather for not staying in touch with the finest in animated films Just name a movie and i might know it!
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:16pm |
| Deleted User | Pixar.....Finding Nemo....I just saw the movie today and it was great. A dad and son story. Go watch it!
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:19pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By JonasKyratzes (1 JUN 2003 2:16pm)
Jeunet is overrated.
*Wimli gasps, chokes, has multiple heart attacks and drops dead on the floor*
Sorry for being so melodramatic, but Jeunet overrated???
He was the best thing about Alien Resurrection, he arguably made the best movie of 2001 (Amélie) and really is one of the most talented directors around. I just bought Delicatessen which is also by him I think. I've only seen a bit of it, but direction-wise this movie also looks absolutely fantastic!
Originally Posted By JonasKyratzes (1 JUN 2003 2:16pm)
Another great movie that I really have to mention is Dark City. Just... wow. Incredibly intelligent and deep movie, great atmosphere, fantastic acting by Keifer Sutherland...
I've been meaning to see this one for a long time now. Don't know why I haven't yet. I'll definitely look for it now!
Originally Posted By JonasKyratzes (1 JUN 2003 2:16pm)
Oh, and Vanilla Sky. I know everybody hated it, but I thought it was one of the deepest, most interesting, and most touching films ever made. And a pleasure to watch, and hear.
Haven't seen this one either. :-/ It's one of those movies that was released at a time there were a lot of other great films out there that I failed to see it. I'm definitely going to get the dvd of it soon though.
Have you seen Abre Los Ojos, the film of which Vanilla Sky is a remake? That one is absolutely fantastic too! Very impressively filmed, great cast and a very talented director (Amenabar, who also made Tesis and The Others, also very good films).
Originally Posted By JonasKyratzes (1 JUN 2003 2:16pm)
Cameron Crowe is a genius
Oh my, how right you are! I love his movies!!! Almost Famous is my favourite film by him. It was just so funny while at the same time emotionally touching. Crowe really has the ability to reach out to you and touch your heart and soul. I know I know, this sounds very corny but it's true. And he knows like no other where the limit is. He'll never let it go so far that it becomes sentimental and which would cause the movie to lose its power and its spell on you. And it's true for his other films too, like Jerry Maguire ('Show me the money!' ). After reading this, I have no idea why i haven't seen his other movies either! :-/ *makes a mental note to put Vanilla Sky and Singles on the top of my Must-buy-list*
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:21pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Godfather (1 JUN 2003 4:10pm)
Just name a movie and i might know it!
Pixar Studios, as in Monsters Inc, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 1 & 2 and Finding Nemo.
Also known for a bunch of animated short films: Tin Toy, Gerry's game, For The Birds, ...
All top quality (although I haven't seen Finding Nemo yet, I'm sure it'll rock!)
Edit: a link with trailers of all their films and their short films: http://www.pixar.com/
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:31pm |
StammerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Cameron is the master of action films! In order to be short i can divulge the big Cameron secret of success!
he uses too many vans and too many shotguns
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:31pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By JonasKyratzes (1 JUN 2003 4:04pm)
BTW, I forgot to mention the movie K-PAX, one of my three favorite movies of all time. K-Pax is certainly a top favorite of mine also!
The only new films I am really looking forward to are LOTR Return of the King in December as well as The Two Towers Extended DVD with 43 extra minutes coming out in November!
Still adventuring after all these years!
Patiently awaiting The Last Crown: Haunting of Hallowed Isle, and Bracken Tor...
... and Asylum if it's not tooooo scary...
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:35pm |
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Wimli (1 JUN 2003 4:21pm)
Pixar Studios, as in Monsters Inc, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 1 & 2 and Finding Nemo.
Also known for a bunch of animated short films: Tin Toy, Gerry's game, For The Birds, ...
All top quality (although I haven't seen Finding Nemo yet, I'm sure it'll rock!)
Edit: a link with trailers of all their films and their short films: http://www.pixar.com/
Ooooh yeah i know these ones....
Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter! Creativity, and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:37pm |
| Deleted User | Wow Godfather! I'm amazed you didn't know of Pixar Studios. Originally, it was the digital effects department of Lucasfilm, later it became Disney's CG animation studio. They've made many breakthroughs CG animation films. In the late 80's and early 90's they did mostly commercials, but in 1995 they made Toy Story, the first feature-length all CG movie. Their main competitor after that has been DreamWorks, and they keep continually pushing each other to new levels or artistic excellence.
For more history, just go to www.pixar.com
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:41pm |
| Deleted User | After learning more about Dumb and Dumberer I have to say I'm not looking forward to it anymore. It's not a Farelly movie and neither Jim Carey or Jeff Daniels is in it. I can't see how it could be as good as the original. It just looks like a silly American high-school comedy with the usual 50% of joke material that's just embarassingly un-funny.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:50pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Petter_Holmberg (1 JUN 2003 4:41pm)
After learning more about Dumb and Dumberer I have to say I'm not looking forward to it anymore. It's not a Farelly movie and neither Jim Carey or Jeff Daniels is in it. I can't see how it could be as good as the original. It just looks like a silly American high-school comedy with the usual 50% of joke material that's just embarassingly un-funny.
Wow, only 50%? Now that's not too bad, is it?
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:51pm |
StammerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Well i didn't know Pixar studios..maybe because i don't pay much attention to the creators when i watch an animated movie. However, i know all of their movies!
I really liked the first Dumb and Dumberer but i am sure that this one will suck, that's the reason i didn't say anything about that in any of my previous posts...
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:55pm |
| Deleted User | I would rather say that Cameron was the master of action films. Terminator 1 & 2, Aliens and The Abyss are great, but I don't think he has done anything that good in a very long time now...
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 4:58pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Godfather (1 JUN 2003 4:51pm)
Well i didn't know Pixar studios..maybe because i don't pay much attention to the creators when i watch an animated movie.
how could you not pay attention to the creators of an animated film ?
the creators are the film
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 5:01pm |
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By sennebec (1 JUN 2003 4:58pm)
how could you not pay attention to the creators of an animated film ?
the creators are the film
I don't know what i am saying. I am just trying to create a good excuse but i am not good at that kind of stuff. Petter, you are right, he is been away for quite a while...
Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter! Creativity, and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 5:05pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Petter_Holmberg (1 JUN 2003 4:36pm)
Their main competitor after that has been DreamWorks, and they keep continually pushing each other to new levels or artistic excellence.
For more history, just go to www.pixar.com
O.k. I'm going to be a bit of a nitpicker here. Don't kill me, o.k.?
Actually it's not Dreamworks who has made Antz and Shrek, but a studio called PDI (it stands for Premier Digital something (Don't know the last letter:-/)). Dreamworks is just the distributor (and probably, like Disney, they pay a big part of the production).
Animation wise, I think Pixar is still unrivalled. Yes, Antz and Shrek looked nice, but Pixar's movies were still a level higher. As for who made the best movie, I wouldn't dare to say. Personally I'm leaning a bit more towards Monsters Inc. It was hilarious, heart warming without being sentimental, had great voice casting and the best animation possible. But Shrek was fantastic too!
And since Ice Age, there is a third major player in CG animation! That movie was fantastic too, although inferior animation-wise to both Shrek and Monsters Inc. But it nevertheless had a great story, cracking dialog, great voice acting. I don't know what the name of the studio was that made this picure though. :-/
But for all these three studios, it must be said: they have very passionate teams and that just shows in their films!
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 5:14pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Wimli (1 JUN 2003 5:05pm)
But for all these three studios, it must be said: they have very passionate teams and that just shows in their films!
cartoonists/animators are in a league all their own...
god bless 'em
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 5:18pm |
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Status : Online | ICE AGE IS THE BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 5:53pm |
| Deleted User | Yeah, I loved Ice Age too! I don't think it really was inferior animation-wise, but that's just me... It was created by a studio called Blue Sky Studios and was published by Fox. I believe this is the same company that made Titan A.E. They also have a new project in the works, called Robots. I have no idea what it will be about though.
Speaking of animation (I love animation) I just know that the upcoming Wallace and Gromit will rock! I've been a huge fan of Nick Park and Aardman Animation for years and years... I'm sure I'm not the only one here who thought Chicken Run was a great movie, but I've dearly missed Wallace and Gromit.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 6:10pm |
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Status : Online | Wallace and Gromit rule!!! Chicken Run (although okay) came nowhere near W&G. Now that's a film worth waiting for. Nick Park deserves another great succes! And we all deserve a "cracking" film. Wouldn't it just be great if Feathers could return....
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 6:22pm |
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Status : Offline | Yeah, Chicken Run was very good, but a Wallace and Gromit film is one of the hottest animation, well claymation if you want, films to look forward to. I haven't heard much about it lately. Any ideas about a release date?
Titan A.E. was made by the in-house animation studio of Fox, not Blue Sky. It was from the same makers as Fox's Anastasia, both directed by animation veterans Don Bluth and Gary Goldman. After Titan A.E. failed at the box office, Fox decided to close down its entire animation division and only work with out-house teams for animation films. Of course it's possible that some of the employees that were fired formed Blue Sky. I doubt it though that they would work with Fox again, after the entire development problems the big bosses of Fox caused during Titan A.E. development.
Why Titan A.E. failed at the box office I have absolutely no idea (well I do: all the rumors caused by production problems)! I absolutely loved it and some of its scenes were simply spectacular (the destruction of the earth, the ice fields at the end, ...). The cast also did a great job, there was enough humor in it, a good storyline. And then, suddenly noone turned up at the theatre. So sad. :'( :'( :'(
I loved Ice Age too, I just think that the animation of Monsters Inc was still even more impressive than that of Ice Age. And I'm glad to hear that they have the guts to work on a new original project, not a sequel to capitalize on the succes of the first Ice Age, something PDI is doing. So I'm looking forward more to Robots than Shrek 2, that's for sure.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 7:21pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Inie (1 JUN 2003 6:09pm)
Wouldn't it just be great if Feathers could return....
LOL! You got to love the guy, don't you? Unfortunately it seems the movie won't come out until 2005, but I could be wrong. Meanwhile, they are releasing a series of free online shorts called "Cracking Contraptions" with W&G using all sorts of Nick Park-esque machines.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 7:28pm |
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Status : Online | I know, they're actually quite good (f.i. Atom films shows them). Especially the snoozatron . Poor Gromit!
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 9:13pm |
| Deleted User | "Robots" is Robota, I think, designed by Doug Chiang, art director on the new Star Wars films and thoroughly nice chap. I've already posted the link, but here it is again - http://www.dchiang.com/flash/robota.html
cartoonists/animators are in a league all their own...
god bless 'em
*MB bows*I thank you. My wrist is crippled from storyboarding non-stop since Thursday at the moment... my directors made some changes to my rough which are being, well, let's just say PROBLEMATIC.
As well as Wallace and Gromit, they've also got The Tortoise And The Hare at Aardman. I like their work, but think they've got stuck in a creative rut of late which can only be blamed by the design similarity of all of their product, which has become more and more pedestrian as it's used in ad campaigns and TV links of late.
A brilliant ad company I feel should get more film work is Studio AKA. Their own series of short films should be seen to be believed - http://www.studioaka.co.uk/picas/frame1.html
Anyone with even a remote interest in animation should look at that link - it's cartoon CG heaven.
The problem with Fox was that it invested in a bad product, and what we're seeing at the moment is a 2D backlash which is only based on the fact that the majority of disneyfied 2D filmmaking has been suffering from creative ineptitude on behalf of the money-grubbing fat cat corporate suits. The only reason Pixar do so well, other than a lovely design ethos, is the fact the package for each film is a lovingly design concept and not just something that regurgitates what has gone before.
My only feeling is that all these companys make films that are too similar. I prefer, in general, Japanese animation which takes more risks in both adult and childrens cartoons. I'm looking forward at the moment to the upcoming Masamune Shirow CG cartoon of Appleseed. It looks amazing...
http://kukaku.free.fr/appleseed_cg_movie/index.shtml
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 10:01pm |
| Deleted User | Wow, just checked out Studio AKA and I must agree that it looks pretty darn good.
I cannot seem to be able to watch those Cracking Contraptions videos. > Is there any place where I can download them instead of watching them streamed, or do I have to resort to p2p software to get hold of them?
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