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| 28 MAY 2003 at 11:18am |
EvaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | please state all the things you love and hate about the trilogy and the next time i vist the shop i might get it.
Whoah! Are you sure you know what you're asking? Have you read the Myst-thread in the Hot Topics-section? If you wait until you've heard everybody's opinions about Myst you may not make it to the shop in time...Good luck!
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 11:23am |
KsandraSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Myst really is the kind of game you either love or hate, I'm afraid. I can't predict whether you'll enjoy it because it depends whether you like that particular style of game. But here are the reasons why I love the Myst games:
Lovely graphics (especially in Riven and Exile).
Incredibly atmospheric.
Challenging and well-designed puzzles.
Hauntingly beautiful music.
Then again, there are lots of reasons why you might not like it. Although there is a plot running through the games, it's a bit unclear and is only revealed gradually through diaries, visual clues etc. Another thing seriously lacking is dialogue and character interaction; you'll only meet a few people during the games and you can't talk to them. If these things are important to you, it might be best to avoid the Myst games.
Finally, the puzzles are mechanical or logic-based rather than inventory-based. They require you to be reasonably good at maths and lateral thinking. They're also quite difficult, particularly in Riven - I challenge anyone to finish that game without a walkthrough!
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 2:40pm |
RismiIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Well Ksandra...we did it without a walkthrough. To be honest, I found Myst more difficult then Riven.
Sure they're not easy and all three of them brought us different times to desperation... For the rest I agree with you 100 %
What's concerning you're question Psybafire, I agree with Eva. I think it's best you see the thread in hot spot about Myst.
Ri&Smi
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 2:50pm |
StammerGuild Master
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Status : Online | I thought that there was a special thread for that kind of staff at Hot Spot :-/
Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter! Creativity, and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 4:26pm |
KsandraSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Rismi (28 MAY 2003 2:40pm)
Well Ksandra...we did it without a walkthrough. To be honest, I found Myst more difficult then Riven.
Really?? Interesting. I found Riven to be the most difficult game I ever played, far more so than Myst. That puzzle with the marbles... ugh *shudders at the memory*
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 9:15pm |
dombrewerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | What it boils down to I think is whether or not you think lovely graphics and puzzles are your thing. That's about it. I think you'd be seriously missing out if you're into that kind of adventure game and you haven't played them, personally. For that price you can hardly go wrong can you - even if you don't like them that much it's only a round in the pub. With all three you won't be going down the pub for about a month anyway .
Myst was my first and remains in a prominent position.
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 9:46pm |
sennebecGuild Master
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Status : Offline | just buy the damn thing !
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 10:08pm |
dombrewerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Right on, Senne!
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 10:27pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I've never really understood the whole debate about Myst's worthiness as an adventure, anyway. Myst was the first PC graphical adventure I ever played, and the game that really got me into adventuring. I didn't know anything about adventuring at the time. I had no idea I was supposed to pine for character interaction or long for more of a plot. I was having fun just enjoying the fantastic graphics and puzzling over strange machines. Three games for roughly 20 dollars? For that price you can afford to buy it and hate it -- but I don't think you will.
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| 28 MAY 2003 at 10:59pm |
adventuredogGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Psybafire - Like Andro, Dom, and senne said, just buy it! I believe it is a very special trilogy!
Totally agree with what Andromus just said! Myst was my intro to adventure. It has a plot! I thought we played as Catherine coming to rescue Altrus - it's been so long.....)
I still PREFER games without endless dialog (even though I am loving Discworld Noir at the moment).
Still adventuring after all these years!
Patiently awaiting The Last Crown: Haunting of Hallowed Isle, and Bracken Tor...
... and Asylum if it's not tooooo scary...
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| 29 MAY 2003 at 1:04am |
| Deleted User | Either you'll like it or you won't. What other games do you like that you've played?
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| 29 MAY 2003 at 2:33am |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | What Fickfack said.
Give us an idea of the games you've liked and the games you haven't liked and why you liked or didn't like them. Then maybe we'll have some idea.
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| 30 MAY 2003 at 5:19am |
CyberHippieIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Sorry if this is redundent and already going on in another forum, but I'm here now...
I'm not really much of a expert of Myst. I've been playing adventrues for a long time. I've watched a few playing playing bits of Myst. I always found it to be a pretty stunning world, great to see cd-rom technology being used. But for me it was so empty and quiet. The puzzles also seemed pretty complicated, lots of running around. But I'm sure if I ever picked up the game and gave it a chance I'd probably get into it, just would have to be in the frame of mind. Although is 3D and for me that's a whole other story. But it's a good deal, so probably worth having, you get a whole whack of games.
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| 30 MAY 2003 at 5:49am |
pwyfyiIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Love 'em, Hate, 'em you gotta play them.
I thought Riven was hard but played fair except once grrrrrrr. Myst was great. Exile was different. Nuff said
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| 30 MAY 2003 at 11:49am |
bistroSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | It was the first adventure game I ever played and I loved it. Riven and Myst Exile didn't disappoint either--hours of total immersion for me. However, if you MUST have interaction/dialogue with other characters, you are going to feel very, very lonely
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| 31 MAY 2003 at 7:57pm |
cesarbittarIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Offline | I don't like the games
but that's me. I finished myst and I'm trying to play Riven, but the lack of story, characters, and something to keep my drive of solving really hard puzzles, is definetely not there.
César.
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| 31 MAY 2003 at 9:11pm |
JoGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Thought CyberHippie said it right - "too empty and quiet". That really sums it up for me, but I prefer 3rd person games anyway. However for that price it certainly would be worth buying, you may love it like lots of others do.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 2:08am |
cesarbittarIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Offline | that's something else I really hate. First person. I find it hard to click with the character if I can't see him/her.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 2:15am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | However, the first person view can allow the player to project more of themselves into the character than the third person view, especially in the case of Myst where no information is given about the character.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 3:25am |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Andromus (1 JUN 2003 2:14am)
However, the first person view can allow the player to project more of themselves into the character than the third person view, especially in the case of Myst where no information is given about the character.
Not for me. I always envision the character in first person games to be an 18 year old boy. Don't ask me why this happens. It's weird. Even in the Nancy Drew games I imagine the character to be a boy. Then Nancy opens his mouth and this woman's voice comes out. It's disturbing.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 6:45pm |
cesarbittarIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Offline | when no information si given about the character is even worse for me. I'm me 24 hours a day, I'd rather "be" (or help) someone else in an adventure, but that's just the way I like it.
Cesar Bittar
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 7:28pm |
AtrusIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Andromus (1 JUN 2003 2:14am)
However, the first person view can allow the player to project more of themselves into the character than the third person view, especially in the case of Myst where no information is given about the character.
Exactly, and that's an aspect I really like in Myst. Some of the characters you're asked to play in
3rd person adventure are sometimes irritating and/or too cliché and it prevents you from being really immersed into the game. At least you don't have this problem with 1st person, and you don't have to hear 100 times "I can't do that" or 'it's silly" everytime you try something wrong. :
I really like 3rd person adventure though...
Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 9:25pm |
| Deleted User | psybafire: The Myst Trilogy box is a bargain! I bought it a couple of months ago and it's definately worth the money!
I must honestly say that I don't like 1st person adventure games much. But I do love the Myst games. I Played Myst when it was pretty new and I'll never forget that experience. Riven I recently finished, and it was great as well, with really beautiful graphics. Myst 3 is still on my to-do list, together with 10 or so other adventure games that I should have played already.
Still, regardless of how you like the games, the Myst Trilogy is a very nice collection of the three games, so you shouldn't be disappointed.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 8:21pm |
RonSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Myst is quite o.k.. You'll have to realize that it's the one that started the genre, but it looks a bit outdated by now, and the puzzles are quite easy compared with Riven.
Myst 3 is one big visual treat. If you're into puzzles, you'll solve it within a day or two but it looks spectacular and has a great dreamworld-mood.
But Riven, ahh... that one really jumps out. Not only out of the trilogy, out of game history. If you manage to get sucked in the game from the beginning (And quite some forummembers have) you'll realize within moments that you bought an ultimate months-lasting adventuregaming orgasm... It's an atmosphere you'll have to taste, and like. Of course, this is useless information since there are numerous I Love Riven posts, but I just feel like mentioning it again...
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