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| 1 JUN 2003 at 8:07pm |
EvaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Andromus (1 JUN 2003 7:55pm)
The first is sand.
The second might be iron forged into a sword.
And the last.... King David?
All are correct!
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 5:34pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Eva (1 JUN 2003 7:47pm)
I'm back! I bet you've missed me...
No, but we missed your riddles Just kidding
OK, here are a few logic based riddles:
1. George, Helen, and Steve are drinking coffee.
Bert, Karen, and Dave are drinking soda.
Using logic, is Elizabeth drinking coffee or soda?
2. The word CANDY can be spelled using just 2 letters. Can you figure out how?
3. Bill bets Craig $100 that he can predict the score of the hockey game before it starts. Craig agrees, but loses the bet. Why did Craig lose the bet?
4. How can you make the following equation true by drawing only one straight line:
5+5+5=550
5. Scientists have proven that cats have more hair on one side then their other side. Some people believe that this is because when cats lay on their side they need insulation from the cold on the floor or ground. Which side of a cat has more hair?
6. There is a barrel with no lid and some wine in it. "This barrel of wine is more than half full," said Curly. "No it's not," says Mo. "It's less than half full." Without any measuring implements and without removing any wine from the barrel, how can they easily determine who is correct?
Note: #1, #3 and #4 have at least two answers I can think of.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 8:37pm |
EvaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (2 JUN 2003 5:34pm)
OK, here are a few logic based riddles
Why? Anything but logic! No more nice riddles? Haven't you got some other game to steal riddles from? Besides Riven, that is...
#1 She's drinking soda because the coffee-drinkers all have 2 e's in their names and the soda-drinkers all have a's in their names - ElizAbeth?
#2 No
#3 Because the score before the hockey game starts is 0-0? Or he just guessed correctly?
#4 If you draw a slanting line you can make the plus into a four - then the equation reads: 5+545= 550, which is true - or, draw a line through the equality sign
so it reads: 5+5+5 (does not equal- can't make the sign here) 550 - which is also true.
#5 the back-side?
#6 - they make a hole in the middle of the barrel and if the wine runs out it was more than half-full, otherwise it wasn't
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 8:49pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Eva (2 JUN 2003 8:36pm)
Why? Anything but logic! No more nice riddles?
Logical riddles are much easier For me anyway.
Haven't you got some other game to steal riddles from? Besides Riven, that is...
I don't recall any riddles in Riven And nothing similar to Betrayal at Krondor (riddle-wise) either...
#1 She's drinking soda because the coffee-drinkers all have 2 e's in their names and the soda-drinkers all have a's in their names - ElizAbeth?
But... that's ElizabEth?
#3 Because the score before the hockey game starts is 0-0?
Right! That's one possible solution.
#4 If you draw a slanting line you can make the plus into a four...
Perfect :-*
#5 the back-side?
Why should it be more hairy than the front side? But you're on the right track there...
#6 - they make a hole in the middle of the barrel and if the wine runs out it was more than half-full, otherwise it wasn't
No - no removing of wine from barrel!
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 8:58pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | 5. cute one -- the outside!
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 8:59pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Andromus (2 JUN 2003 8:58pm)
5. cute one -- the outside!
Yep! And indeed it is usually the cute side
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 9:01pm |
EvaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (2 JUN 2003 8:49pm)
But... that's ElizabEth?
Darn! You're right! :-[How about she's drinking both coffee and soda? Or she's not thirsty? Or maybe she's just drinking coffee since there's no a in Bert.
Could you give me a hint on the candy? Pleeaassee? :-*
Why should it be more hairy than the front side?
Hey - who's the cat here!(don't think too long about that one)
Okay, perhaps there's more hair on the stomach?
The barrel-thing: Can't they tell from looking into the barrel?
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 9:11pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Eva (2 JUN 2003 9:01pm)
Darn! You're right! :-[How about she's drinking both coffee and soda? Or she's not thirsty? Or maybe she's just drinking coffee since there's no a in Bert.
The official answer is "coffee" (because of two e's). My alternate answer is "Using real logic, there's no way to tell because why the hell should people's names have anything to do with what they're drinking?"
Could you give me a hint on the candy? Pleeaassee? :-*
Eee... I don't know how to give you a hint without giving away the solution They are two letters of the alphabet and both are contained in the word 'candy'.
Hey - who's the cat here!(don't think too long about that one)
You! Didn't think about at long at all! See Andromus's post for the answer
The barrel-thing: Can't they tell from looking into the barrel?
No - it is very close to half full and they can't tell for sure if it's just a bit less or just a bit more. Hint: the barrel is symmetrical.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:19pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By MichalN (2 JUN 2003 5:34pm)
2. The word CANDY can be spelled using just 2 letters. Can you figure out how?
3. Bill bets Craig $100 that he can predict the score of the hockey game before it starts. Craig agrees, but loses the bet. Why did Craig lose the bet?
4. How can you make the following equation true by drawing only one straight line:
5+5+5=550
6. There is a barrel with no lid and some wine in it. "This barrel of wine is more than half full," said Curly. "No it's not," says Mo. "It's less than half full." Without any measuring implements and without removing any wine from the barrel, how can they easily determine who is correct?
2: Candy is spelled with the letters 'C' & 'Y', thusly "c-and-y"
3: He just flat out guesses it. The bet was that he could predict, had nothing to do with accuracy
4: You could also draw a diagonal line through the equal-sign, making the eguation 5+5+5 NOT-Equal to 550
6:Simple theory, long explanation: they slowly tip the barrel over until the fluid level reaches the bottom of the rim as they tilt the barrel. once the wine is entirely diagonal within the barrel they look at the far end of the barrel, if the bottom of the barrel is entirely visible, then the barrel is less than half full. Alternatley, if the wine obscures any part of the bottom while being tipped as such, then the barrel is more than half full.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:29pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Magma42 (2 JUN 2003 10:18pm)
2: Candy is spelled with the letters 'C' & 'Y', thusly "c-and-y"
Yep!
3: He just flat out guesses it. The bet was that he could predict, had nothing to do with accuracy
Exactly
4: You could also draw a diagonal line through the equal-sign, making the eguation 5+5+5 NOT-Equal to 550
Eva already said that!
6:Simple theory, long explanation:
Correct (this is why I said the barrel is symmetrical - it wouldn't work otherwise).
Next round:
1. What didn't Adam and Eve have that everyone else has?
2. In 1209, on a hot summer day there was a man who was ordered to be executed by king. The king was a nice king though, and he said that if the man could prove himself wise, he would let him go. The king filled a room with fake flowers, and only put in one real flower in the room. The king said the man had 20 seconds to find the real flower. The man said, "It's very stuffy in here. Could you open a window?" The king opened a window, and the man immediately knew which was the real flower. How did he know?
3. I am the shortest complete sentence in the English language.
What am I?
4. A plane crashed and every single person on board this flight was killed, yet...there were survivors. Explain how?
5. There's a land where there's mummies and daddies but no babies. Books but no librabries. Mirrors but no reflections. Kittens but no cats. Cattle but no cows. Lollipops but no candy and trees but no forests. It's the land of what?
Again, #3 and 4 has at least two possible solutions.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:31pm |
CarlaJourneyman
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Status : Online | I see this is a very easy (and fun, of course :) way to shamelessly increase your post account!
You heard me before,
Yet you hear me again,
Then I die,
'Till you call me again
[b][center]Aut inveniam viam aut faciam[/b][/center]
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:33pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Malia G (2 JUN 2003 10:30pm)
I see this is a very easy (and fun, of course :) way to shamelessly increase your post account!
What do you mean "shamelessly"? Solving riddles/puzzles is hard work! >
You heard me before,
Yet you hear me again,
Then I die,
'Till you call me again
Echo? Echo?
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:35pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | 1. Bellybuttons? Parents?
3. I am.
4. Maybe the surrivors weren't people? Animals, pets?
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:39pm |
CarlaJourneyman
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Status : Online | 1. Parents!!! Poor orphans... : (I don't want to start a discussion about religion here )
3. "I am"???
4. You mean "single" as "not married"? If so, there's the answer...
5. The land of double letters?
[b][center]Aut inveniam viam aut faciam[/b][/center]
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:45pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Malia G (2 JUN 2003 10:39pm)
1. Parents!!! Poor orphans... : (I don't want to start a discussion about religion here )
Yeah! (now what exactly did I mean by that? )
3. "I am"???
Yup... what's the other one?
4. You mean "single" as "not married"? If so, there's the answer...
Right, that's one, Andro has the other (no one said the survivors were people).
5. The land of double letters?
Yep! You're dangerously good :-*
But! We have math puzzles too!
1. TWO x TWO = THREE
Each letter stands for one and only one digit, and no digit is represented by more than one letter. Can you work out what digits the letters in the above multiplication stand for so that the identity above is actually correct?
2. You have ten stacks of identical looking gold coins. (ten coins each). Nine of the stacks contain all real gold coins, and one of the stacks is made up entirely of fake gold coins. Each real gold coin weighs exactly 1 gram, while each fake gold coin weighs exactly 1.1 grams. Using a scale, how can you determine the stack of fake coins?
RULES: You can use to take only one measurement. For example, you stack what you want on the scale, press a button, and get a readout of the weight. You can do this only once, and once the readout is displayed it does not change if you remove any coins. You can mix the coins up in their stacks, separate them, mark them, whatever. How do you find out for sure which stack contains the fake gold coins?
3. There are six men and they each have six baskets. Each basket has six cats inside and each cat has six kittens. Assuming all are whole and healthy, how many legs are there?
The second one doesn't really require a calculator, just logic.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:47pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | The other answer to number three would be "Am I?"
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:51pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Andromus (2 JUN 2003 10:47pm)
The other answer to number three would be "Am I?"
Well, in that case there are two other answers
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:53pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | And number two.....
Well, might as well start throwing out guesses...wafting scent on the breeze lets man smell real flower, breeze blows petals off of real flower, hummingbird/bee is attracted to real flower, or breeze stirs up pollen causing man (who has allergies) to instantly pinpoint which flower is causing his sneezing.
There! Very silly, but I think I'm done.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 10:57pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Andromus (2 JUN 2003 10:53pm)
Well, might as well start throwing out guesses...wafting scent on the breeze lets man smell real flower, breeze blows petals off of real flower, hummingbird/bee is attracted to real flower, or breeze stirs up pollen causing man (who has allergies) to instantly pinpoint which flower is causing his sneezing.
I don't think allergies were invented yet back then... but bee/insect/hummingbird is the right answer!
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 11:33pm |
WimliGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (2 JUN 2003 10:45pm)
2. You have ten stacks of identical looking gold coins. (ten coins each). Nine of the stacks contain all real gold coins, and one of the stacks is made up entirely of fake gold coins. Each real gold coin weighs exactly 1 gram, while each fake gold coin weighs exactly 1.1 grams. Using a scale, how can you determine the stack of fake coins?
RULES: You can use to take only one measurement. For example, you stack what you want on the scale, press a button, and get a readout of the weight. You can do this only once, and once the readout is displayed it does not change if you remove any coins. You can mix the coins up in their stacks, separate them, mark them, whatever. How do you find out for sure which stack contains the fake gold coins?
So the scales are useless after you have weighted only one stack or you get a 'positive' result for every stack that weighs as much as the first one you weighted (hope I make myself clear here :-/)?
3. There are six men and they each have six baskets. Each basket has six cats inside and each cat has six kittens. Assuming all are whole and healthy, how many legs are there?
1020?
No idea about the first one, the second one is a bit of a mystery for me too... :-/
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 11:42pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Wimli (2 JUN 2003 11:33pm)
So the scales are useless after you have weighted only one stack or you get a 'positive' result for every stack that weighs as much as the first one you weighted (hope I make myself clear here :-/)?
You can arrange the coins however you want for the weighing but can only weigh once. Imagine electronic scales where you can only push the buttons once to read out the result.
1020?
Add a few thousand (you left out a six there)
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| 3 JUN 2003 at 12:08am |
WimliGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (2 JUN 2003 11:41pm)
You can arrange the coins however you want for the weighing but can only weigh once. Imagine electronic scales where you can only push the buttons once to read out the result.
Add a few thousand (you left out a six there)
3. Yeah, wel, that's what happens when you start asking me these questions at three in the morning (well, it is over here), to someone who should already be in bed cause he has a whole day of studying to look forward to tomorrow. Anyway don't expect too many bright answers from me in the next few weeks, o.k.? I'm here to relax from studying Why oh why did I enter this thread The torture I put myself through. :
Anyway: is it 6060?
2. Still thinking about this one. I know that the stack with all the false coins is the heaviest (11 grams (11 x 1.1) to be exact) AND is the only one without a number behind the comma, right? The others always have a number after the comma because they always have at least one coin that weighs 1 gram (the real gold one) and never enough, and so never form a whole gram with the numbers behind the commas of the other coins. Tell me I'm right? Please, I need confirmation!
Edit: Wow. Rereading my answer, it really sounds weird but actually makes sense, but's still wrong anyway, probably, no?
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| 3 JUN 2003 at 12:26am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Wimli (3 JUN 2003 12:08am)
Anyway: is it 6060?
Yes
Tell me I'm right? Please, I need confirmation!
I don't think you read the question carefully enough One stack is false coins only, all others have no false coins in them.
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| 3 JUN 2003 at 12:45am |
WimliGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (3 JUN 2003 12:26am)
I don't think you read the question carefully enough One stack is false coins only, all others have no false coins in them.
Boy! Am I building up a reputation here of being a dumb ass or what?
o.k. It's too late now, my brain has totally collapsed now (thanks MichalN ). I need some sleep. I'll try again tomorrow, if it'll still be there (probably solved by someone else by then.
Hey at least I'm making some progress now: I understand the question!
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