| 30 OCT 2002 at 4:13pm |
bleepnikPrivate Detective
Posts : 544
Joined: 13 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | I've been a web designer for the past decade, and am now "retired" from that field. An ex-dotcommer, back in school studying computer programming.
.gita
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| 30 OCT 2002 at 7:23pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | I'm a professional programmer since about 2 years. Prior to that, I was a student
I forgot my sig.
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 12:03am |
SCiVPrivate Detective
Posts : 671
Joined: 22 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Programmer for a couple of years, now an information analyst/business process consultant.
Playing: World of Warcraft / Monkey Island SE&&Reading: Worldwar: Upsetting the Balance - Harry Turtledove&&Watching: Repo! The Genetic Opera
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 12:02pm |
ratracerIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 41
Joined: 21 OCT 2002
Status : Online | System engineer, now refurbished to IT auditor...
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 1:48pm |
PharosGamesIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 50
Joined: 18 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I spent 18 years as a communications technician, working on main frame computer. I am self-taught in programming and graphics though. I started several different businesses over the past 5 years. First computer hardware, then consulting, and commercial website. Now I do games and website work.
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 4:44pm |
sennebecGuild Master
Posts : 3334
Joined: 15 NOV 2004
Location: US, maine
Status : Offline | well, let me break this pattern!
i am a hands-on landscaper/personal fitness trainer/certified johnny g spinning instructor
i have just finished putting all my garden accounts to bed for the winter and taking a little time off
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 4:50pm |
Baron_Von_UngernIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 41
Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Online | For a moment I thought that all adventure gamer were of the programmer type !!
Happy to see this ain't so !!
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 5:27pm |
PharosGamesIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 50
Joined: 18 OCT 2002
Status : Online | There is one thing obvious to me...
From everything I am reading in this forum, I think I am a LOT older than most of you. No, I'm not going to tell you HOW old.
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 6:35pm |
InlandAZGuild Master
Posts : 5586
Joined: 4 MAY 2007
Status : Offline | Lets see -
Systems Engineer/Programmer here as well - Started back in 1974 as a Statistical Analyst in the Banking Industry.
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 6:47pm |
PharosGamesIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 50
Joined: 18 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (31 OCT 2002 6:34pm)
Lets see -
Systems Engineer/Programmer here as well - Started back in 1974 as a Statistical Analyst in the Banking Industry.
OK, so maybe I'm not the oldest.
But you started that job when you were 3, didn't you? That's how old I was when I started working.
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 10:11pm |
mbc841Space Cadet
Posts : 194
Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Well, before saying what I do NOW, I'll say that I started working for the Federal Government right out of highschool, back in 1983 - and eventually became a Telecommunications Specialist. After 14 years of service, I got burned out and left the govt. (temporarily)
Now I'm working as the Mailroom operator for the Girl Scouts (yes, they hire men). I've been away from the govt. for 5 years now, and am ready to go back and pick up my career where I left off. It's proving to be MUCH HARDER to get back in than I ever anticipated, so who knows how long it'll take.
All that I know about computer graphics and game programming I taught myself. I have no formal training in any of it. I've been a computer geek type person since the early 80s, when my mother got me a Timex Sinclair - 80 (TS-80) for Christmas one year, and I've been hooked ever since. (I think that's what it was - it was a little black box you plugged into the back of your tv and you saved your BASIC written program onto a cassette tape - that's where I learned to program my first database)
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 10:24pm |
PharosGamesIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 50
Joined: 18 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By mbc841 (31 OCT 2002 10:11pm)
After 14 years of service, I got burned out and left the govt. (temporarily)
Yeah, I got burned out after working almost my entire 18 years on graveyard shift, mostly alone... there has to be more to life! Now I'm staying up all night writing games by myself. :
I've been a computer geek type person since the early 80s, when my mother got me a Timex Sinclair - 80 (TS-80) for Christmas one year
A trs-80? We used those to make test calls-- called them "trash-80s" hehheh But they were really pretty good little computers.
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 11:13pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By mbc841 (31 OCT 2002 10:11pm)
All that I know about computer graphics and game programming I taught myself. I have no formal training in any of it.
Formal education is overrated. After 18 years of studying I should know, right?
Honestly, most of the stuff I need in my job is what I taught myself. But formal education is great for obtaining useful skills that one wouldn't normally be interested in.
I forgot my sig.
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 11:15pm |
sennebecGuild Master
Posts : 3334
Joined: 15 NOV 2004
Location: US, maine
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By PharosGames (31 OCT 2002 5:27pm)
There is one thing obvious to me...
From everything I am reading in this forum, I think I am a LOT older than most of you. No, I'm not going to tell you HOW old.
come on, kathy....
i'll tell if you tell....
remember it's not about age but ALL about attitude...
i'm 45
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 11:37pm |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger
Posts : 2099
Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Student...I think.
And yes, I too am in Information & Computer Science.
Formal education is overrated.
Sometimes and sometimes not. Yes you can learn a lot from doing it yourself but if you aren't working for a company it is practically impossible to get interactive training with some of the business enterprise applications and software. But yes anyone can buy a book and read. I think the tools are the important part because that is how I learn. I can't learn if I can't touch...and that is analogous with other aspects too...
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 31 OCT 2002 at 11:59pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Teaching the use of specific tools is not what a college should do. It should teach people to think - ten years from now, the tools will be completely different, but if you learned to think, that's good for life
So I think that in some ways, formal education is both overrated and underrated.
I forgot my sig.
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| 1 NOV 2002 at 1:36am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger
Posts : 2099
Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I meant to say that one example of higher education being useful is ... Not that they only teach you how to use tools. It is one of the many things you learn in addition to thinking. And thinking is definitely the most important.
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 1 NOV 2002 at 1:44am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
Posts : 5696
Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Teaching the use of specific tools is not what a college should do. It should teach people to think - ten years from now, the tools will be completely different, but if you learned to think, that's good for life
Hey Michal its good to agree with you in, well, everything
A little bit on me - I worked as an undercover agent for the Haitian government for... no, thats not entirely true. I've been a prof...err programmer for the last four years. Communications field. IVR's, PBX's and a lot of stuff with 3 letters. I'm studying Electronics Engineering right now unless I decide to go for a Chef career.
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| 1 NOV 2002 at 2:12am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Rael (1 NOV 2002 1:44am)
Hey Michal its good to agree with you in, well, everything
Almost scary, innit
A little bit on me - I worked as an undercover agent for the Haitian government for... no, thats not entirely true. I've been a prof...err programmer for the last four years. Communications field. IVR's, PBX's and a lot of stuff with 3 letters. I'm studying Electronics Engineering right now unless I decide to go for a Chef career.
Wow, an EE! I never understood how computers work on the electrical level. Just bits, bytes, registers, ports and stuff. Everything below that is magic to me. Compilers, linkers, assemblers, executables, DLLs... that's what I like.
I forgot my sig.
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| 1 NOV 2002 at 4:18am |
PharosGamesIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 50
Joined: 18 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By sennebec (31 OCT 2002 11:15pm)
come on, kathy....
i'll tell if you tell....
remember it's not about age but ALL about attitude...
i'm 45
I'm 35. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Kathy (who's lying through her teeth)
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| 5 NOV 2002 at 5:25am |
overcomeSpace Cadet
Posts : 112
Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Well it is not a job per say, I'm in my 1st year of a 3year traditional (2D) animation school in TOronto. I LOVE it so far.
As for the importance of formal education. Well in my experience the night courses I took in 3D where mostly a waste of money and time. I ended up just buying books and learning the software at home.
But the education I am getting now from real artists at this traditional animation school is amazing. YOu really need people to critique your work and push you to do better and learn more. No way I would be motivated to draw 6 hours a day without my teachers and the fact I spent so much money on tuition!
Daniel
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| 5 NOV 2002 at 6:41am |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
Posts : 2391
Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Strictly speaking, 'unemployed' in that I'm not working at this very moment in time.
To be exact, I'm a theatrical actor, also skilled in makeup and costume. If I need money, my painting talent's about equal with acting so I can usually sell a few of my works. Tend to also do voice acting for aquaintances. Available to do voice acting for video games anyone's making here, should you need it, I can be emailed or asked right-out.
Presently not working, taking a few night classes and working on learning moderate-level Japanese language. Have had a few chances to get work, but after last play a few weeks ago I'm a bit too tired and want to relax a little before getting any more work. Plus, I'm 19 and deserve all the time off I can get
[url=http://www.justadventure.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1136331866/0#0]GAMES FOR TRADE!![/url]
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| 5 NOV 2002 at 7:58am |
BTillerIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 13
Joined: 14 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I am 35 and I have been working in computer games for ten years, as of last July. I missed the old 2d adventure game days, and I am trying to resurrect them with my own company. So I guess my current job is CEO/ art director/ project leader/ receptionist, and if I ever get any money, accountant.
I have to say the formal education I got I use everyday! My teachers and classmates were awesome. I was fortunate enough to go to a really good art school, though. I can not make any blanket statements about formal educations, good or bad. Mine was great. I just wish I had studied even harder and goofed off less.
-Bill Tiller
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| 5 NOV 2002 at 5:47pm |
PharosGamesIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 50
Joined: 18 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By BTiller (5 NOV 2002 7:58am)
So I guess my current job is CEO/ art director/ project leader/ receptionist, and if I ever get any money, accountant.
You will!!!!! Beautiful work... good luck with your efforts as an independent.
I was over 40 when I taught myself programming, and everything else I have learned, when I decided I HAD to do something creative with my life.
(I've been counting my birthdays backwards for the past few years, in case you wondered.) Luckily, since I don't get out in the sun much, I'm pretty well preserved.
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