| 19 APR 2003 at 6:28pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Randdom (19 APR 2003 6:08pm)
What's your strategy of playing? I am trying the "stealth mode" but find it way easier to simply kill the guards. It's giving me the impression I am working for nothing
At the beginning of the game it makes sense because there's not enough ammo. Later on, just kill them.
What's your weapon of choice? I stuck with the arbalete, the stealth gun and the prod ( ); inventory space you know. I haven't even tried others.
Get either the shotgun or the automatic rifle. The sniper rifle is also very good. And something like the rocket launcher is very handy against the bots. Yes, the inventory is way too small
Are the choices have real consequence? Could the brother lived? Could I still be with UNATCO if I had followed orders?
I'm pretty sure you can't stay with UNATCO. It is possible to save your brother but it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference. Just makes you feel a bit better
I forgot my sig.
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| 20 APR 2003 at 7:31pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | No, you can't stay with Unatco.
I guess you climbed out of the window when the soldiers "knock" on the door?
You can also defend Paul, but you end up in the compound either way.
No heavy choices to take in Deus Ex.
I played as stealthy as I could in the beginning of the game which means I used the prod and the tranquil darts a lot. Later I usually sniped my way out of every situation and did the dirty work in melee combat with the samurai sword.
What bothers me, is, that you don't need to raise your sniper skill if you are at least a bit skilled with target crosses. You just have to control versus the flow a bit and you can easily snipe with low skill. Points are waisted. Skill points in close combat are not wasted however, they will turn you into a killing machine pretty soon.
Medicine would be advisable to put some points into.
Lockpicking, hacking and electronics can be maxed.
You should have no problems this way.
Heavy weaponry can be fun, but I never play that way.
It's fun to try and kill noone except the machinery. But this can get very tricky in later missions.
Get the X-ray vision, it will come in handy!
The bomb scanner is nice as well. Especially if you raise it a bit and you are able to destroy any explosives in the vicinity. Those rocketing bots won't like it...yeehaw!
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 20 APR 2003 at 8:04pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Elfstone (20 APR 2003 7:30pm)
No, you can't stay with Unatco.
I guess you climbed out of the window when the soldiers "knock" on the door?
You can also defend Paul, but you end up in the compound either way.
No heavy choices to take in Deus Ex.
Yes, that's what I did.
It's good to know, but that destroy the illusion of choice-consequence a little bit .
Get the X-ray vision, it will come in handy!
The bomb scanner is nice as well. Especially if you raise it a bit and you are able to destroy any explosives in the vicinity. Those rocketing bots won't like it...yeehaw!
Crap! Too late for the bomb scanner (it's an Augs right? I'm full of them)
I'm trained in Low tech, I always prefer the melee too.
Get either the shotgun or the automatic rifle. The sniper rifle is also very good. And something like the rocket launcher is very handy against the bots. Yes, the inventory is way too small
I guess it's an adventure game practice, unlimited inventory I really hate dropping thing.
Thanks for the advices, I hate dilemmas -and regrets .
I cannot believe I've waited this long to play this game, it's great! The music, the graphics, the gameplay and the story is great. I'm a little bit disappointed by the AI though.
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| 20 APR 2003 at 11:08pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | You should not copy a game style of others. Our advices did not intend to force you onto something. You can do without the explosive detector - well, they ARE fun, but it's not that bad. I think the other Aug was very good as well and it might serve other purposes.
I must admit that Deus Ex offers choices in gameplay, but there is definitely a way which works best. The others are fun, but the strategy I've written down certainly worked out the best results for me and I think nobody should have much of a problem by choosing the same strategy. Yes, that's subjective.
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 21 APR 2003 at 6:36am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Elfstone (20 APR 2003 11:07pm)
You should not copy a game style of others. Our advices did not intend to force you onto something. You can do ...
I do not want to copy but to understand how the game is supposed to be played, or maybe best enjoyed. I constantly find weapons and exotic ammunitions and thought I was maybe missing something. Also, I've chosen the silent walk aug but never use it as it drains the energy way too much and I regret not choosing the "fast" aug for accessing other (higher)areas .
The game is so open it got me completely lost at the beginning, and as much open it is there must be a winning strategy. I prefer knowing it, since being silent for an hour in a mission for finally killing everybody with two easy shots in the head is a waste of time IMO . The game characters are judging your style of gaming in the early missions and that seems to be completely irrelevant later; but because of that I'm still using my prod ( ) instead of the nano-sword... I now realize (after two "death" by my prod) that it is a waste of energy -and ammunitions .
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| 21 APR 2003 at 10:57am |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Actually, it matches the atmosphere if you use the prod in the beginning when you are with the Unatco, but later when you are on your own you become a guerilla fighter with samurai sword. I guess it fits into the gameplay, at least I felt this way. In the final missions you don't have to show any mercy and you should play this way, nothing wrong about it.
Whereas killing everybody and everything in the first few stages seems rude to me. You can do with much more strategy.
It may be a waste of time, technically speaking, to choose the stealty approach first, but believe me, it's a lot more fun as well.
Just an impression:
You remember one of the earlier missions when you climb on the roofs in the city? On one roof there is a stairway down to some rooms in which you find the generator you are looking for. The The rooms are full of soldiers. You can now draw your gun and fill them with lead, but that's no fun.
I tell you what I did:
First I installed 1 or 2 mines on the upper stairway (those with proximity control, triggered by walking into the laser beams). Then I threw a gas grenade right into the room and ran away, looking for cover.
The soldiers ran out of the building and some of them were instantly blown up by the mines.
The others ran around searching for me. From my position I could snipe another few of them.
The remaining ones I shot with the gun or either sliced with the knife.
This particular scene was a lot of fun. And whilst I'm writing this I want to play some Deus Ex again...sigh.
I did similar things in later missions and never had so much fun. I have to check now if there are any new missions or mods, but I guess they will never finish with at least one of those.
Btw: Try hard mode if you think the shootouts are too easily won. Apart from head shots you won't kill anybody in the first run. Very challenging. AI stays pretty much the same level, though.
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 21 APR 2003 at 6:50pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Elfstone (21 APR 2003 10:57am)
It may be a waste of time, technically speaking, to choose the stealty approach first, but believe me, it's a lot more fun as well.
I meant doing a stealth approach, then being seen, alarm starting and then killing everybody in 30 seconds . 1 hour of stealth work for 30 seconds of clean up :-/ .
Just an impression:
You remember one of the earlier missions when you climb on the roofs in the city? On one roof there is a stairway down to some rooms in which you find the generator you are looking for...
OOh nice!! Your an evil genius of destruction man!
In this one I simply used the computer to destruct the generator. The soldiers all ran downstair and I got to the roof
I will play it tonight, I can't wait to know who or what Daedalus is ...
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| 21 APR 2003 at 7:14pm |
RpauPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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First time I played the game I shoot everyone with the shotgun, without considering any subtle move. It worked fine, but it wasn’t half as interesting than when I replayed it. Even tough you can’t stay with the UNATCO guys you can try to stay with them until the last minute to see what happen… The game gives you lots of options: For example, when you are in the plane with your coworker of UNATCO and the terrorist you can kill either of them or both, and the characters will later react to these choices. When you arrive to Hong Kong you can go directly to the hotel and kill the woman (I can’t remember the name) by entering through the roof (if you do that you will avoid facing her later). You can also kill the german agent without any problem. Finally, according to its creator Deus Ex can be completed avoiding killing most of the people, the exceptions being three of the main characters.
“even the lover of the myth is in a sense a lover of wisdom, for the myth is composed of wonders”
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| 21 APR 2003 at 7:39pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Rpautassi (21 APR 2003 7:14pm)
The game gives you lots of options: For example, when you are in the plane with your coworker of UNATCO and the terrorist you can kill either of them or both, and the characters will later react to these choices.
Yeah but killing Ana Naveara (something like that) sooner is way less satisfying than using her deathswitch
"back off Flatlander Woman!"
"how do you know..."
proutttt!
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| 21 APR 2003 at 7:43pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Randdom (21 APR 2003 7:39pm)
Yeah but killing Ana Naveara (something like that) sooner is way less satisfying than using her deathswitch
I killed her right away... but got the killphrase for Gunther (was it "sticks and stones"?) - because I don't think he can be killed at all in the earlier stages. Kinda pissed me off really. I was blasting him with all I had and he just wouldn't die.
I forgot my sig.
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| 21 APR 2003 at 7:49pm |
| Deleted User | I arrhem don't know...I've not reaching that point...
Ok, bye! I'm gonna play right now .
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| 22 APR 2003 at 6:34pm |
| Deleted User | It's Laputan machine, as in
"I know your Killphrase: Laputan machine"
"I'm not a machine!?"
"Stick and stones"
prouttt!
I must not be far from the end, everybody is dead except W. Simons and Bob Page (I hope this bastard will die )
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| 25 APR 2003 at 3:14pm |
Bob_the_BuilderJourneyman
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Status : Online | The 3 endings for the game were cool.
I'm really looking forward to Deus Ex 2.
NO SOUP FOR YOU!
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| 25 APR 2003 at 8:24pm |
| Deleted User | Isn't everyone?
I'm always tempted to buy Deus Ex, as my copy was bought in America and ended up to be some sort of demo disc. It finished when he went to Japan! Just like that! That's a huuuuge demo, but WHAT?
Imagine my frustration. >
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| 26 APR 2003 at 10:01pm |
JPSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Deus Ex is a great game - it's one of my favourites and I really feel you should just play the game one step at a time - at certain times stealth is essential and at others you've just got to go in with all guns blazing!
There isn't a right or wrong way - just play how you feel and you'll get through it
Bow down before the one you serve&&You're going to get what you deserve !
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| 26 APR 2003 at 11:17pm |
Bob_the_BuilderJourneyman
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Status : Online | Apparently the creator of Deus Ex (Warren Spector I think) wants to make Deus Ex 2 so it's never required to kill someone.
NO SOUP FOR YOU!
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| 28 APR 2003 at 11:21pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Bob_the_Builder (26 APR 2003 11:17pm)
Apparently the creator of Deus Ex (Warren Spector I think) wants to make Deus Ex 2 so it's never required to kill someone.
That's a cool idea! I just hope the absence of linearity will not involve lack of scenario...
There isn't a right or wrong way - just play how you feel and you'll get through it
Yeah, I finally understood that - as JC Denton : ! I've finished it now, great but short endings ! This game does not treat the player like an imbecile, I like that.
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| 4 MAY 2003 at 2:35pm |
RpauPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Bob_the_Builder (26 APR 2003 11:17pm)
Apparently the creator of Deus Ex (Warren Spector I think) wants to make Deus Ex 2 so it's never required to kill someone.
Yeah, I also read about that, nice idea.
BTW, When will be Deus Ex 2 in the shelves? I am waiting for so long...
“even the lover of the myth is in a sense a lover of wisdom, for the myth is composed of wonders”
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| 4 MAY 2003 at 6:27pm |
| Deleted User | June 30, 2003. So I presume it's for Christmas 2003 .
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