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| 2 APR 2003 at 1:05pm |
judyannSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | And by longer, I am assuming don't mean endless mazes, difficult arcade sequences, and puzzles that require you to run back and forth just to lengthen the game.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 1:23pm |
| Deleted User | I wish I could take this seriously... The meaning's there, the "execution" (pun intended) isn't.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 1:36pm |
StammerGuild Master
Posts : 3894
Joined: 5 JAN 2003
Status : Online | I don't have anything against short games but i think i prefer the long ones .
Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter! Creativity, and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 2:30pm |
JoYSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 208
Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I don't think Syberia was too short, it was just too easy...
If a game is difficult you wouldn't finish it in a few days, even if it is on the short side.
With the easyness of Syberia I would have probably dropped out because of boredom if it had been any longer.
I hope they make Syberia2 less easy!
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| 2 APR 2003 at 2:31pm |
dimidimidimiSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Those of you who crave for a long adventure should be looking forward to Legacy. According to some...rumours let's say...it's going to be longer than Longest Journey.
PDF adventure magazine - The Inventory&&http://www.justadventure.com/TheInventory/TheInventory.shtm&&&&What would you give to know the truth?&&http://www.brokensaints.com
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| 2 APR 2003 at 2:43pm |
StammerGuild Master
Posts : 3894
Joined: 5 JAN 2003
Status : Online | rumours ?! i think i am going to trust them
Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter! Creativity, and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 3:48pm |
TeoSpace Cadet
Posts : 185
Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | syberia wasn`t too short IMO..could have been longer but I didn`t go "WHAAAT!! its already over???"
the shortest game I`ve ever played was onimusha:warlords..took me 3 and a half hour
I love long games with an involving story..that`s why I love final fantasy..minimum 25 hours per game
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| 2 APR 2003 at 3:53pm |
dimidimidimiSchattenjger
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Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I agree Teo. Syberia was short imo but not THAT short. If I compare it to the rest of the new adventures that take 5 hours to finish (Shadow of Memories, CSI,etc) Syberia was much better taking me around 12 hours to finish.
PDF adventure magazine - The Inventory&&http://www.justadventure.com/TheInventory/TheInventory.shtm&&&&What would you give to know the truth?&&http://www.brokensaints.com
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| 2 APR 2003 at 4:19pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | I want more Riven's, Schizm's, Ripper's, Black Dahlia's, Zork Nemesis's, and similars.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 4:24pm |
TeoSpace Cadet
Posts : 185
Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | so what you`re saying is that you want more and longer first person games?
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| 2 APR 2003 at 4:54pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | The shortest game I ever played was D. 90 minutes the first time through. I was sure glad I didn't pay for it (had it borrowed)
I forgot my sig.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 5:11pm |
MaciekIntergalactic Janitor
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Joined: 14 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I want more Riven's, Schizm's, Ripper's, Black Dahlia's, Zork Nemesis's, and similars.
Schizm 2 won't be short I hope.
Maciej Miasik&&[url]www.detalion.com[/url]
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| 2 APR 2003 at 5:13pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Riven, IMO have the ideal difficulty level.
Around 9, with extreme explorer appeal. It's very hard but's not impossible to solve it without walkthus.
Black Dahlia is different....it's so difficult than turns impossible it-self. obtuse and no integrated puzzles.
Return To Zork have the maxximum level of hardness....near 10 > barely impossible.
In other hand, phantasmagoria 1 deserve no more than 2 scale of hardness.
GK2 is also easy...no more than 3.5
Myst 3, Zork Nemesis and Byzantine are in the same level....6.5 IMO.
My dream is a game running in blu-ray disk (around 40 cdrom storage capacity). This game, could be avoid the old fashioned and tradicional puzzles, abused by developers, to enlarge the game's lenght.
A 40 cd package, could be made and constructed based only in the strategy hardness to solve it. Maybe a couple of traditional puzzles....but no more than few them. So, this game never being boring or keep you stuck for o lot of time at any part of it. This game, could be entretain us for a half year at least.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 6:01pm |
Friday the 14thSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Maciek (2 APR 2003 5:11pm)
Schizm 2 won't be short I hope.
Are we talking to one of the developers?
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| 2 APR 2003 at 6:27pm |
| Deleted User | I hope so, Friday.
[size=24]My advice to you, developer-person, is hire a proper scriptwriter, get some reasonable actors this time and tone down the maths.
Other than that, Schizm was great.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 6:43pm |
Friday the 14thSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I looked at the link www.detalion.com in his signature, it sure looks like it.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 6:45pm |
StammerGuild Master
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Joined: 5 JAN 2003
Status : Online | If he is what you say he is then we have an exclusive information!!!
Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter! Creativity, and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 7:36pm |
PrgSkidmarkIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 4
Joined: 29 MAR 2003
Status : Online | I walked around Morrowind for about 100 hours. That only uncovered 1/6 of the map. I was mostly running errands and exploring. Of course that's over a month of play time. In terms of entertainment value 100 hours for $50 is really good.
New games come out that grab my attention, and I get excited about new stuff. And I quit, buy the new games, and play them.
Maybe it's the genre, but to hold my attention for that long it's gotta make me not want to play another game.
Doug
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| 2 APR 2003 at 8:13pm |
| Deleted User | I would buy a long adventure game if there aren't lots of bugs in it(like Faust).
I still haven't bought Schizm because lots of people said that the puzzles are hard and I don't want to waste my money on quitting in the middle of the game. I have to agree with monkeybone. I'm not a maths genius. At least if the game's not so hard, I could play it more than once.
Tehre should always be interactions with people in the game because when you're alone and have no one to talk to, you'd feel alone and bored. At least you know you're not the only living thing there. Plus it'll make the story line more interesting.
Come on developers, think about 3rd person games. Lots of people like it. I don't mind to wait long for a perfect long adventure game where it's perfect or 90% perfect all the way.
What else? I like games with multiple endings like Post Mortem and Shadows of Memories. Well, Shadows of Memories has more replayability and it's fun to see different scenes and put all together a whole new different story.
I've enjoyed Final Fantasy games. Long , good graphics, nice storyline, nice characters, nice music.(Well, it does depend on which series your playing )
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| 2 APR 2003 at 8:40pm |
lakerzPrivate Detective
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Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Status : Online | RPG's by default seem to have a good long playing time associated with them. It's the nature of the beast. What's funny is the articles I've read that lament the fact the games are so long. People argue that they would like to complete the game, but it's taking forever and they have all these other games they'd like to play before they died as well.
I think length in an adventure game is kinda tough to judge. I mean, one really hard puzzle or really hard to find item could make a game last forever. I personally don't really care about length so much as about the enjoyment I had as a whole.
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas...
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| 2 APR 2003 at 8:48pm |
m0dsIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 57
Joined: 25 FEB 2003
Location: UK
Status : Offline | Why do people say Full Throttle is short? It took me a while to complete, and I enjoyed the experience totally.
The games may not be short, you may just be too good for them. Take it as a compliment if you will, but there's not a lot of originality out there anymore, so it's either a bit of post modernism and repeating older puzzles, or going back to the bizarre ones. Use catfish with lubricant on hole in roof kinda thing
m0ds
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| 2 APR 2003 at 10:10pm |
| Deleted User | What's wrong with math puzzles? Some people like them. It seems to me a lot of people on this forum are trumpeting their own opinion as accepted fact. I like music puzzles but I don't start threads to complain about how they are too few or too easy.
Ditto ditto for first-person games and lack of character interaction- if you don't like that kind of game don't buy it! It irritates me when people tell developers to stop making a certain type of game because it isn't their cup of tea. Just as you wouldn't buy an FPS if you don't like them, you shouldn't spend your money on Myst clones if you don't like Myst.
Besides, do you honestly expect a developer that makes first-person, Myst-style games to be able to start making Monkey Island-style games on cue? If they don't like those type of games they'll do a lousy job.
We should be glad to get good adventures at all- if I enjoy the experience it's of no consequence how long it is. If it's 2 hours long and I pay $50 for it I'll be upset- but I find these things out beforehand. If it's really short and easy I'll wait for a price drop.
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| 2 APR 2003 at 11:37pm |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Didn't we already have a similar topic like this? When 1 person thinks a game is too short or too long for them, it can be completely the opposite for another person. Taking in their lifestyle and how much time they get to play games........and their ability to play. So.......it's kinda contradictory to say a game is 'too' short or 'too' long........ hmm?
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| 3 APR 2003 at 11:51am |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Personally, I have nothing against short games, if I could pay "one dollar" for them!
My statement is against "short 20 dollar games".
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