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| 21 MAR 2012 at 7:42pm |
AndromusGuild Master


Posts : 5540 Joined: 6 NOV 2002
Status : Offline | Glad to hear you like it! It's one of my favorite shows even with so short a run. As to why it was cancelled, it did struggle in the ratings, but Fox didn't do it any favors either with how they botched the airing of the show. They gave it a Friday night time slot, generally bad for shows. And they aired some episodes out of order, trying to promote action heavy episodes over others.
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| 21 MAR 2012 at 8:43pm |
Lady KestrelGuild Master


Posts : 4047 Joined: 27 SEP 2004 Location: US, NJ
Status : Offline | I gather they also didn't show the episode that started and ended with the captain sitting naked on a rock in the desert. I enjoyed that one very much! 
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 22 MAR 2012 at 2:35am |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | Yes, it's cancellation is a very sore point for me as well. I also bought all the episodes as well as the film. Apparently Fox messed it up by not screening the pilot, and by screening the episodes out of order. Damn shame, isn't it?
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 22 MAR 2012 at 2:25pm |
StilerJourneyman


Posts : 1477 Joined: 27 SEP 2004 Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | I have both the dvd nand now the blu ray set of Firefly.
One of my all time favorite sci fi shows next to Farscape.
Fox showed episodes out of order, but a bigger problem was that fox would routinely have gaps between episodes, and local fox stations almost ALWAYS took the show off to show sports (baseball games). So th epeople that wante dto watch the show had to constnatly wait 1-2 weeks extra between episodes, and if you were unlucky enought o have a fox station that liked baseball, you'd miss episodes for baseball games instead.
ON top of all this, they hardly advertised it at all.
unlucky enough, it didn't get the same kind of second pick-up/rerun like FAmily Guy and Futurama did. At least we got a movie though, I still don't think the movie did it justice to a degree (how they changed a few characters/rushed things).
It did however give us Nathan Fillon , who's a great actor in those sort of off the cuff/humor roles, he's great in the current series, Castle.
Really wish/hope he'd get the title role for the Uncharted Movies.
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| 22 MAR 2012 at 4:40pm |
Lady KestrelGuild Master


Posts : 4047 Joined: 27 SEP 2004 Location: US, NJ
Status : Offline | Farscape is my all-time favorite sci-fi series, Stiler. Although it, too, ended too soon, at least they tied up everything with the final movie.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 22 MAR 2012 at 5:47pm |
ValGuild Master


Posts : 3480 Joined: 2 OCT 2002 Location: US
Status : Offline | In my opinion, it's one of the best series ever. Yes, who in their right mind would cancel something like that. I have an opinion on the movie but will wait until you watch it.
Farscape is also one of my all time favs. I don't have all seasons yet but I will!
We can be heroes, just for one day. Last edited by Val : 22 MAR 2012 5:48pm
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| 23 MAR 2012 at 8:26am |
MJEcclesIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 22 Joined: 27 FEB 2012 Location: UK
Status : Offline | I tried to get into this show, but just couldn't. After watching the full first episode, the characters just didn't leave any impression on me and the whole 'western in space' setting just didn't click. But at very least, I can see why others may like it, so that's good.
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| 23 MAR 2012 at 12:27pm |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MJEccles (23 MAR 2012 8:26am)
I tried to get into this show, but just couldn't. After watching the full first episode, the characters just didn't leave any impression on me and the whole 'western in space' setting just didn't click. But at very least, I can see why others may like it, so that's good.
It's really partly the 'Western in Space' aspect that made it really work for me, since I can't handle all the unrealistic aliens that are always stuffed down your throat; (except in the Star Wars prequel films - though I hated them in the original Star Wars films) which just seems all the more unrealistic and improbable now that we know there really isn't any life around within any distance that is practically reachable. Plus I'm also tired of the "robots-like humans" tropes.
Firefly was nice because it managed to avoid all these tired cliche's.
So yeah, the abscence of aliens was really a huge plus for me. If they made up for the lack of the latter with making it a bit Westerny/spy-spy FBI-ish/interesting human cultures on far-out planetary colonies, so be it. I loved the central story with the girl and her brother as well.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 23 MAR 2012 at 9:27pm |
StilerJourneyman


Posts : 1477 Joined: 27 SEP 2004 Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | Trav, how can you not like Ewoks? I mean they are like space Furby's for crying out loud!
The one thing I liked about Farscape was how the non-humanoid aliens were done with real world props/puppetry (Jim Henson company behind it) so it had a charm to it. The one thing that kills many new shows/movies is bad cgi, movies/shows both rely way too much on it these days when a GOOD prop/puppet can look better (to me at least) then cgi that just reminds me of older movies that'd use cartoons + people (and not as good as Roger Rabbit).
One thing I always wondered though, why are almost all aliens in movies/shows humanoids? (stand up right, have legs/arms, eyes/mouth/nose/ears) instead of aliens more like......well animals? Watch something about fish that live miles and miles downk, they look more "alien" like they almost anything you see about aliens in a movie/show.
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| 23 MAR 2012 at 9:39pm |
Lady KestrelGuild Master


Posts : 4047 Joined: 27 SEP 2004 Location: US, NJ
Status : Offline | It's just easier (and cheaper) to dress an actor up in a costume to create an alien, Stiler. There were some good Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes with non-humanoid aliens (crystaline, non-corporeal, etc.), and the main problem in the stories was how to communicate with them.
One of my favorite characters in Farscape was Pilot, and I especially liked the episodes where we learned his origins and how he came to be linked with Moya.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore Last edited by Lady Kestrel : 23 MAR 2012 9:45pm
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| 24 MAR 2012 at 7:21am |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Stiler (23 MAR 2012 9:27pm)
Trav, how can you not like Ewoks? I mean they are like space Furby's for crying out loud!
Heh, I was mainly baiting alien-lovers, but honestly, most of the furry aliens in the original ST reminded me too much of
The Muppets
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 25 MAR 2012 at 5:09am |
loobilooPrivate Detective


Posts : 598 Joined: 3 APR 2008 Location: UK
Status : Offline | I couldn't really get into the Star Wars films but the ewoks were cute!
I haven't seen Farscape & I never heard about the Firefly series until a friend lent me the DVD boxed set. I remember starting to watch the pilot episode & thinking what a load of rubbish it was but by the end of the episode I was so hooked I watched the rest of them one after the other. I then went & bought my own boxed set & have since watched the series several times & also the film Serenity which ties up the central story.
As well as the stories I just love the humour & personalities of the characters who were perfectly cast. It's just a real shame that no more series were made!
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| 25 MAR 2012 at 5:38am |
MJEcclesIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 22 Joined: 27 FEB 2012 Location: UK
Status : Offline | Loved Farscape.
Can't stand Ewoks, I'm afraid. Did you know that they are never referred to as Ewoks in the movies? Not once.
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| 25 MAR 2012 at 3:48pm |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By loobiloo (25 MAR 2012 5:09am)
I couldn't really get into the Star Wars films but the ewoks were cute!
I haven't seen Farscape & I never heard about the Firefly series until a friend lent me the DVD boxed set. I remember starting to watch the pilot episode & thinking what a load of rubbish it was but by the end of the episode I was so hooked I watched the rest of them one after the other. I then went & bought my own boxed set & have since watched the series several times & also the film Serenity which ties up the central story.
As well as the stories I just love the humour & personalities of the characters who were perfectly cast. It's just a real shame that no more series were made!
Ditto here!
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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