| 22 SEP 2011 at 11:16am |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Dwarf fortress is a given for me. Infinite replay value, the ability to create things that the game designers never thought about (like a lava powered computer!) and lots of humor would probably make that the most played game for me on that island.
Victoria: An empire under the sun. Again due to its incredibly high replay value.
Daggerfall, because then I would finally have time to finish the darn thing.
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| 22 SEP 2011 at 5:19pm |
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Status : Offline | Skyrim, Fallout:NV and Star Trek Online, the desert island should be Riven ofcourse
I claimed Riven first, so it's mine alone, otherwise it wouldn't be deserted anymore [smiley=grin.gif]
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| 22 SEP 2011 at 5:36pm |
| Deleted User | Thinking about this but first off, would it be safe to assume that free internet access would be a available? :-/
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| 22 SEP 2011 at 6:01pm |
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Status : Offline | Markonikov wrote:
I claimed Riven first, so it's mine alone, otherwise it wouldn't be deserted anymore
I wish the forum wasn't divided into genre sections; then I'd make a thread that asks: "Which game world would you prefer to be banished to"?
Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (22 SEP 2011 5:35pm)
Thinking about this but first off, would it be safe to assume that free internet access would be a available? :-/
But regarding an internet connection: Let's say the reception is dicey, [s]so it would be safe to choose one online game and 2 offline games.
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No wait, come to think of it, if there was internet, one wouldn't have to choose....
So no, sadly no internet... the whole point is - which game has so much replay value for you, that you could be stuck with only that game (plus 2 others) for 5 whole years.
(Would that remove Dwarf Fortress from the list?)
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| 22 SEP 2011 at 11:25pm |
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If I was on a deserted island and had a laptop with any kind of web connection, I wouldnt waste a single watt on gaming no matter how many batteries were available. My ONLY use of that precious lifeline would be for contacting the outside world to try and get rescued asap.
For games, I would play Tac Tac Toe in the sand with a stick or build sand castles on the beach to play Fiddler Crab Fortress. Otherwise, my handy, waterproof deck of cards would help pass the time. That is assuming I had already found good sources of fresh water, food and adequate shelter from the elements.
Cheers, Terry
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 10:29am |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | (Would that remove Dwarf Fortress from the list?)
Nope, DF is a singleplayer offline game. If there were no internet connection, then I would just mean that the game won't get updated.
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 11:21am |
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Status : Offline | Damn, no internet connection means star trek is of the list >
So it will be replaced by Settlers II 10th anniversary edition, unless it needs internet as DRM protection :'(
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 12:23pm |
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Status : Offline | Nope, we're assuming your game is already activated when you land on the island. So don't worry about DRM activations - this is about which games you could bear playing for years.
Yes, I think one should at least have one strategy game in your arsenal, whether it be TBS or real time.
I never get done playing through the Disciples campaigns, so perhaps I'd choose Disciples 2.
I would've chosen, perhaps, Warlords Battlecry 3, if only it had nicer campaigns.. :-/
Rather one of the Europa Universalis games, perhaps. Which reminds me that I have The Guild 2 but haven't played it yet. Same with Majesty 2. Ah, the pressure... :
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 2:09pm |
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Status : Offline | Ah the old desert island question... This would be a Robinson Crusoe style adventure for me - I'd of course build a little gaming station on the bluff overlooking the ocean and occasionally dip in after attending to the multitude of island projects...
One: first off I'd take rFactor and a good wheel/pedal/shift controller. At this point I have enough real-world series mods and hundreds of tracks to drive so I'd have my hands full for a loooong time. This is a hardcore simulation so there's no real issue of 'finishing' it or re-playability, making it a good candidate for me.
Two: The middle pick is tough. Probably take a flyer on something super big and detailed that I've never played before - like one of those RPGs everyone is always talking about. I know, I've never actually played one before, but now would be the time to try.
Have to get back to you on this one.
EDIT: a 1st person RPG
Three: let's see, when I feel the need to 'get away from it all' I'd fire up Riven.
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 3:18pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By mgonneau (23 SEP 2011 2:09pm)
Two: The middle pick is tough. Probably take a flyer on something super big and detailed that I've never played before - like one of those RPGs everyone is always talking about. I know, I've never actually played one before, but now would be the time to try.
Have to get back to you on this one.
Good idea. I think I'd take Planescape Torment for that. Perhaps Baldur's gate 2 plus expansion - but wait - Gothic 3 would be ideal actually, as a never-ending RPG. If I ever do manage to finish it, I could always replay and join the orcs second time around.
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 6:49pm |
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Status : Offline | And if I didn't like the flyer game choice? The dvd could be use to reflect light into the mine I would have excavate for ore to smelt and make into useful implements. BTW is there an AG about surving on a desert island? It could be good.
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 6:52pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By mgonneau (23 SEP 2011 6:49pm)
And if I didn't like the flyer game choice? The dvd could be use to reflect light into the mine I would have excavate for ore to smelt and make into useful implements. BTW is there an AG about surving on a desert island? It could be good.
Well, Return to Mysterious Island 1and 2 might fit that description.
...on the other hand, you could always play Lost....
Even better - Risen. 8-)
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 8:29pm |
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Status : Offline | Fallout 3 - Got to have at least one good open-world game. If you are on a deserted island you'd want a game that you can spend 100's of hours in and still find new things. As far as why F3, I liked the setting of Washington better then NV, both are great games though.
Total War game, I'm not sure which, but one of them. RTS games are one of the types of games you can play over and over and over and it doesn't get old nearly as fast as a story driven game. Would probably be either Rome: Total War or Medieval 2.
Just Cause 2 - Another good open world game, but instead of an rpg it's a shooter, etc.
Basically I'd go for three games that are quite different from one another with more of a focus on replayability.
These are not my "favorite" games rather games I enjoy and could pull 100's and 100's of hours from each of them without losing interest quickly, plus they are all quite different that I wouldn't feel like I was playing a similar game over the other.
I'd miss adventure games, but most adventure games just have little replayability once you play them, plus most are quite linear story-wise.
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| 23 SEP 2011 at 10:55pm |
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Status : Offline | ...on the other hand, you could always play Lost....
don't know if the game is any good but the show was awesome..
I played Return to Myterious Island 1 up to the Monkey puzzle which was a drag and dropped it there. Liked it up to that point tho.
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| 24 SEP 2011 at 12:38am |
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Status : Offline | Just 3 games? Damn! Like others have said, although I love adventure games, for the replayability factor I guess I would skip the genre (although I have reread lots of books in the past, when I had more free time...).
Well, I can imagine 2 scenarios: going with games I have already played and going with games in my to play list!
Games I already played and that can be considered oldies but goldies:
Heroes of Might & Magic 3 - I've yet to finish the campaign and the squirmish mode would be good for keeping me occupied.
Red Alert 2 with Yuri expansion - nice campaign and squirmish mode
GTA Vice City - loved the story, the environment, the music and open world.
Games to play, currently waiting for their turn:
Red Alert 3 - I hope to have as much fun as I had with RA2
Fallout 3 GOTY - my first take on the franchise
The Saboteur - I've yet to acquire GTA IV and an open world in the WW2 seemed pretty cool to me
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| 24 SEP 2011 at 1:01pm |
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Status : Offline | I played a bit of Lost, and never got around to resuming it. Anyway, it's a more of an action adventure - sort of an adventure-actionadventure.
Hey Techno! Nice to see you around again - long time no see!
So you say RA2 is nice? I should look into it sometime!
Mm, Stiler, I've never tried Just Cause either, but also thought of that one at some point. Sadly, life seems to short to play everything. I bet if you did land on a deserted island, you'd have no time for gaming, anyway... .
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| 25 SEP 2011 at 12:27pm |
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Status : Offline | Difficult question. I thnink I'd probably take Betrayal at Krondor for sure: if I'm going to have nothing but time, I may as well finish that bastard. Otherwise, tough call. If I also have a pen and supply of paper, then Riven's a good candidate as well. Likely for my third I'd take Fallout: New Vegas, simply because it's a Bethesda roleplaying game I've barely sunk my teeth into. Those games give you some serious value for money. 8-)
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| 26 SEP 2011 at 12:21am |
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Status : Offline | Tough question, indeed. I'd like to replay Morrowind, but I'd probably choose Oblivion as I haven't played it yet.
It would be a good chance to get to get started with the Heroes of Might and Magic series, something else I've been wanting to do. Normally I start at the beginning of a series, but given the game limitation of the scenario I'll pick HoMM 3, which sounds like the best one in the series.
I'd include Baldur's Gate 2 with the expansions, that deserves a replay or two easily.
Or maybe Fallout 3...or Gothic 1....perhaps Dragon Age...or even an adventure game of some sort, though the lack of length compared to the other games makes that challenging...no, I'll stick with my choices. So for me, make it Oblivion, Heroes of Might and Magic 3, and Baldur's Gate 2.
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| 26 SEP 2011 at 10:44pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Andromus (26 SEP 2011 12:21am)
It would be a good chance to get to get started with the Heroes of Might and Magic series, something else I've been wanting to do. Normally I start at the beginning of a series, but given the game limitation of the scenario I'll pick HoMM 3, which sounds like the best one in the series.
Choosing which Heroes game is "the best" can be fraught with pitfalls. Heroes III in indeed quite refined, but it's been my observation that it diverges too much from the formula in basic ways, while conversely providing nothing particularly compelling in other aspects. Put another way, it feels refreshing at first, but as you go on it starts to feel hollow.
Personally I like the simple purity of the original and the modest, almost shy incremental enhancement of the second. To play the first one a bit to get a handle on things, then the second to really sink your teeth in is probably a winning strategy---and if you want something a little more involed, I find (from albeit limited experience) that Heroes IV offers a far more rewarding experience than Heroes III. I have not, however, played Heroes V (nor VI---is it out yet?), so someone with a more complete viewpoint should probably tell you more.
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| 27 SEP 2011 at 9:59am |
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Status : Offline | like a lava powered computer! You are really fascinated by that, aren't you? Well, if there were internet, you could just be downloading the games constantly. So, not much point to choose really.
Nature's first green is gold,&&Her hardest hue to hold.&&Her early leaf's a flower;&&But only so an hour.&&Then leaf subsides to leaf.&&So Eden sank to grief,&&So dawn goes down to day.&&Nothing gold can stay.
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| 27 SEP 2011 at 10:15am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By dwwa (27 SEP 2011 9:59am)
like a lava powered computer! You are really fascinated by that, aren't you? Well, if there were internet, you could just be downloading the games constantly. So, not much point to choose really.
Yes, that is why I said there'll be no internet. The point of choosing is to tell us which games you think have the most replayability value. Which games can you play for 2 or 3 years, without the game getting so repetetive that you'd rather poke out your own eye than have to play it AGAIN.
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| 27 SEP 2011 at 3:35pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By JKing (26 SEP 2011 10:44pm)
Originally Posted By Andromus (26 SEP 2011 12:21am)
It would be a good chance to get to get started with the Heroes of Might and Magic series, something else I've been wanting to do. Normally I start at the beginning of a series, but given the game limitation of the scenario I'll pick HoMM 3, which sounds like the best one in the series.
Choosing which Heroes game is "the best" can be fraught with pitfalls. Heroes III in indeed quite refined, but it's been my observation that it diverges too much from the formula in basic ways, while conversely providing nothing particularly compelling in other aspects. Put another way, it feels refreshing at first, but as you go on it starts to feel hollow.
Personally I like the simple purity of the original and the modest, almost shy incremental enhancement of the second. To play the first one a bit to get a handle on things, then the second to really sink your teeth in is probably a winning strategy---and if you want something a little more involed, I find (from albeit limited experience) that Heroes IV offers a far more rewarding experience than Heroes III. I have not, however, played Heroes V (nor VI---is it out yet?), so someone with a more complete viewpoint should probably tell you more.
I feel the exact opposite than JKing about Heroes 3 and 4. Are you sure you're not mixing the 2 games up, JKing? Heroes 3 is pretty much the same formula as Heroes 1 and 2, just more factions, artifacts, spells and so forth added to make for a deeper and richer experience. It also has tons of maps and quite enough campaign-wise. I found HOMM 4 to be more shallow in all respects (except perhaps, breadth of factions) than even HOMM 1. Certainly your development options are less.
Back in the day I managed to play through almost all of the Heroes 1 maps and campaigns, but much as I love and still play HOMM 3, I haven't scratched the surface yet.
HOMM 4 is a totally different kettle of fish. Different look & graphics, (prettier, actually, than the previous ones) different UI, and slightly different gameplay.
Sadly HOMM 4 has much less choices than HOMM 3. You can't develop your strongholds as much and you have fewer spells and artifacts. I think the pirates are new, with a pirate campaign too, which is new. However, I soon tired of HOMM4. I don't think I'd ever play it again, especially since there are so few maps and the campaigns tend to severely restrict stronghold building in some way or another.
I still have to work through the HOMM 5 campaign. It's a hard game, and lots was added back after what had been taken out in HOMM 4.
Looking forward to the Heroes 6 release
What a pity you missed the heroes 1-5 complete collection, Andromus, which for some strange reason seems to have released in the UK only. :-?
However, perhaps the Heroes 3 & 4 collection would be a good deal for you.
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 27 SEP 2011 at 11:57pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By JKing (26 SEP 2011 10:44pm)
To play the first one a bit to get a handle on things, then the second to really sink your teeth in is probably a winning strategy...
And in actuality, that's probably what I'll do. I'm usually a hard core "play the games in order" type. I'm always interested seeing how a series evolves, or devolves, even.
Originally Posted By placeholder (27 SEP 2011 3:35pm)
What a pity you missed the heroes 1-5 complete collection, Andromus, which for some strange reason seems to have released in the UK only. :-?
However, perhaps the Heroes 3 & 4 collection would be a good deal for you.
That is a nice looking bundle, however I did pick up the first 3 HoMM games from GoG a little while back.
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| 28 SEP 2011 at 7:28am |
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Status : Offline | Well, You can't go wrong starting with #1 and playing a bit of all of them, working through to 3. It's a natural progression, anyway, since 2 adds a bit factionwise, and then 3 builds on that again, and adds a bit more of almost everything.
#1 still feels and looks good in spite of it's age, so it's a good place to start, and to get the "feel" of the games.
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