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| 29 AUG 2011 at 10:49pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | I'm holding my thumbs for you.
I have to ask: is this a direct translation? It's very charming and just as baffling as our habit of crossing our fingers.
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| 29 AUG 2011 at 11:38pm |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Ah, silly me. I've spent my entire day showing two person from Slovenia Stockholm, and explaining Swedish terms & expressions, so I'm in the mindset of using Swedish expressions in English. Yes, it is a direct translation, and it means the same thing as crossing your fingers. You also put your thumb into the palm of your hand, and then fold the other 4 fingers over it (but you don't clenche your fist).
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| 30 AUG 2011 at 8:41am |
markornikovJourneyman
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Status : Offline | hmmm, this made me realise our language has a specific verb for 'crossing your fingers' while there isn't one in english, french.
When translated directly the verb would be 'thumbing'
So, I thumb for you all!
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| 30 AUG 2011 at 9:32am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | As far as I know, the "holding thumbs", is a pretty general European expression for the English "crossing fingers". I find the latter a bit confusing, because that's also what you do when you lie, so holding thumbs is actually a better, less confusing idea.
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 30 AUG 2011 at 11:38pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | A 'better' idea? Really Trav - you should know I would spring to the defence of my beloved English. The English language likes to make one word do several different things depending on context.
Crossing one's fingers when hoping for a beneficial outcome is done with the fingers in front, on display. It is like a sort of prayer to the gods of fortune.
Crossing one's fingers behind one's back (very old fashioned and not done now) was used to negate whatever one was swearing to or avowing. Like a get out of jail free card - 'oh I can't be held to that as I had my fingers crossed when I said it'. I think we just use sarcasm or facial expressions nowadays.
I have read that the whole 'crossing' bit was meant to invoke the cross of Jesus. [smiley=shrug.gif]
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 2:28pm |
MarkGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Caroline (30 AUG 2011 11:38pm)
A 'better' idea? Really Trav - you should know I would spring to the defense of my beloved English.
I thought the statement "I had my fingers crossed, so therefore whatever I promised was a little fib." is still quite common amongst kids. Like Caroline says:
Originally Posted By Caroline (30 AUG 2011 11:38pm)
Crossing one's fingers behind one's back (very old fashioned and not done now) was used to negate whatever one was swearing to or avowing.
It's not "old-fashioned". Little kids and corrupt politicians still do it; it's a "Nyah, nyah!" meme.
Originally Posted By Caroline (30 AUG 2011 11:38pm)
I have read that the whole 'crossing' bit was meant to invoke the cross of Jesus.
I think this is one of those things we can't attest to Jesus' a-talkin's to.
Please proofread your posts carefully to see if you any words out.
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 5:11pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Mark (31 AUG 2011 2:27pm)
Originally Posted By Caroline (30 AUG 2011 11:38pm)
A 'better' idea? Really Trav - you should know I would spring to the defense of my beloved English.
Uh-oh.... it looks like we've sprung upon one of those cross-atlantic differences again...
Defense seems to be the American spelling whilst defence is the British spelling. Canada is sitting on de fence with this one...
http://www3.telus.net/linguisticsissues/BritishCanadianAmerican.htm
http://www.differencebetween.net/language/difference-between-defence-and-defense/
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 7:47pm |
| Deleted User | Hi Everyone
We're all doing fine here, although there is no power in my area and not really expecting it in the near future. Thank goodness I managed to find wifi in a library two towns up so I could check in.
Yes Irene was a tropical storm when it passed through but we were on the east side (windy side) of the storm track and the 90MPH gusts wreaked havoc on trees and power lines. Even now numerous roads are still closed. School opening for the kids has now been pushed back a week and many of them can be seen outside walking around like zombies suffering withdrawal symptoms from their on-line video games.
Freezers and fridges have pretty much given up the fight so it looks like hot dogs and storebought potato salad tonight.
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 7:56pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Thanks so much for letting us know, CB! Sorry to hear about all the damage, but thank goodness you and yours are still alive and well, eh? [smiley=thumbup.gif]
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 8:11pm |
HelenGuild Master
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Glad to hear your okay.
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 8:22pm |
| Deleted User | I'll post a few pics of the aftermath on my street (proof that I am indeed the most unlucky person) when things are back to normal.
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 9:02pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Very happy to see you survived the storm, CB.
Hope it didn't cause you too much harm or discomfort.
Cheers, Terry
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| 31 AUG 2011 at 11:13pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Glad you're okay CB, although I can't imagine living without electricity for any length of time.
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| 1 SEP 2011 at 12:32am |
Lady KestrelGuild Master
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Status : Offline | It's good to hear from you, CB. I hope they get your electricity up and running soon.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 2 SEP 2011 at 6:32pm |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | The best defen(s/c)e against Irene was to avoid her wrath. For me, safe haven was the island of Bermuda; too far off the Atlantic coast to be of interest to her.
There were calm bays:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/152-1.jpg[/IMG]
Vibrant ocean beaches:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/181.jpg[/IMG]
Serene cave pools:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/129.jpg[/IMG]
There is lush plantlife:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/210-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/190.jpg[/IMG]
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There is wildlife:
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[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/191-1.jpg[/IMG]
There is shopping and architecture in Hamilton:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/172-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/176.jpg[/IMG]
There is history in St. George:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/211.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/202.jpg[/IMG]
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| 2 SEP 2011 at 7:03pm |
HelenGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Beautiful pics Anthony!
The one in the cavern with the crystal clear water looks especially wonderful.
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| 2 SEP 2011 at 7:15pm |
Lady KestrelGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Those are great photos, Anthony. It looks like you had an excellent time.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 3 SEP 2011 at 2:21am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Bermuda! Good to see you didn't get lost in that pesky triangle. I dunno, geometry can go real bad in the tropics!
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| 3 SEP 2011 at 2:44am |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Great pics, Anthony.
I love Bermuda and it's been too many years since my last visit.
Cheers, Terry
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| 4 SEP 2011 at 1:39pm |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Thanks. Returning home, the damage inflicted by Irene was visible, but nothing serious.
Some felled trees, collapsed walls and pavement erosion:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/064.jpg[/IMG]
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| 4 SEP 2011 at 11:33pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | This damage is just by your house Anthony? id you lose any trees in your lovely garden?
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| 6 SEP 2011 at 3:09pm |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Those photos are from nearby streets. We suffered no property damages other than a retractible awning which though full retracted was still blown apart.
Cest la vie.
How's life in Adelaide these days? o you miss school?
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| 6 SEP 2011 at 8:34pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Caroline (31 AUG 2011 11:12pm)
Glad you're okay CB, although I can't imagine living without electricity for any length of time.
Would you consider eight days without electricity (nine days without cable) a considerable length of time?
Sadly I had to toss most of my veggies from the garden that I had frozen. All that hard work. Hopefully (I keep my fingers crossed LOL) that this was a one time event for us, not so much the storm, but the Spoiler Alertclusterf#ck with CL&P in organizing crews from TN, OH, and Canada with the cleanup and restoration efforts. :
Link (my camera wasn't set to internet friendly file size)
Not a problem. I can still go right at the end of the drive and go a few miles out of the way to get to town.....
one hour later...
Link
Uhm, maybe not. >
Luckily the second tree wasn't hung up in the lines so I was able to cut it up the next day.
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| 6 SEP 2011 at 8:41pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Oh my heavens, CB, that is an unfathomable length of time to go without power...
Gee, now you know how it was done a few centuries ago, eh? ..except they were geared for such living back then... :
Well, are you back online now? (Permanently, from home, I mean). I hope you at least have power restored again everywhere up your way.
Nice to see you, anyway . [smiley=wave.gif]
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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