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| 14 AUG 2011 at 4:27pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Hi guys, I'm starting a thread for us to post suggestions to each other about casual/puzzle/adventure hybrids like the Drawn games, or action adventures like the American Mc Gee Alice games or Beyond Good and Evil.
The reason I'm posting it in the adventure forum, is that these games must be so close to adventures that you could almost call them adventure games, so please - only games with strong adventure elements (it must have a nice solid collection of puzzles, even if they are relatively easy, and at least some semblance of a story, not just a collection of puzzles like Pandora's Box.).
Well, I'll start off with recommending 3 Big Fish games: the Drawn games, being Drawn: The Painted Tower, and Drawnark Flight are pretty nice atmospheric puzzle games that have lovely music, narration and art, and interesting puzzles.
Markonikov and I have just finished playing a fun casual adventure from Big Fish with pretty nice puzzles, called The Nightmare Adventures: the Witches Prison, upon a suggestion from Jenny 100. Thanks Jenny, please feel free mentioning more titles that are similar to this one.
Colpet gave a few suggestions in another thread, but she mentioned too many, I have no idea which one to try out first.
Both Cultura and CB have mentioned casual-ish (very pretty looking) games in the easy ID thread that might be nice to try out; but I'd forgotten their titles now, it was quite a while back.
It would be appreciated if anybody, including the lady and gentlemen mentioned above, can give recommendations of just 1 or 2 their most outstanding semi-casual/puzzle/adventure games that they've played recently.
Please not HOG's, or at least not games with too many HOG screens (let's say not more than[s] 20%[/s][edit] 25%[/edit] HOG); - we already have a thread for HOGs, so pure HOGs can go to that thread.
Thanks.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 5:20pm |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | You've already mentioned the Alice games, so why not add the Tomb Rader series? Nearly every game in the series has been an adventure for me; exploration, story, problem solving etc...
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 5:25pm |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Depending on where you want to draw the line, Metroid Prime (1-3) are all quite heavy on exploration & puzzle solving, and they have a decent story as well.
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 6:04pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Ah, I see Metroid Prime is for Nintendo and Wii, and I personally don't have any of those.
I have actually been thinking that we should start a thread for AG's that are console only.
...and besides that, another thread for games for Droid, iOS and mobiles, especially adventure games that have been adpated, like for instance Amerzone for iOS.
Re Tombraider: I usually don't get to the puzzle parts, because I tend to give up because of the platforming parts.
In the 3 games I mentioned though, when I said puzzles, I meant puzzles, as in quite satisfying mechanical puzzles like you get in Myst or Schizm. The hint systems bring these games down to casual level, but they can of course be ignored. On the other hand, those games don't include action at all; they're mainly slideshow screens.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 6:41pm |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Come to think of it: Resident evil, up to (but not including) 4 are both puzzle & story heavy. If it were not for all the zombie fighting, they would most likely be considered adventure games.
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 6:47pm |
Lady KestrelGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Azada and its sequel, Azada Ancient Magic are fun puzzle games.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 7:39pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Ah, ok, now I know why poor Cultura hasn't posted about it; I went baaaaaack in the easy ID thread, and the pretty game I was thinking of (or one of them, anyway), was Hidden Expedition Devil's Triangle . Cultura got a bit of flack for it, because the game is about 25% HOG.
Ok so let's still include games here even up to 25% HOG. That game sure looked pretty.
Oh, and I looked up a review, and it had this to say:
Hidden Expedition: Devil's Triangle has gone a step further than the other Hidden Expedition games. While the others were either pure object finding or the same with an adventure overlay, Devil's Triangle is more of a point-and-click adventure with HOG elements. Most areas don't have any form of hidden objects at all, just pure puzzle solving.
I'm definitely very interested.
Oh, and thanks for the other suggestions. Ancient Magic has been suggested a few times now, so that's also gone onto my personal list now.
However, looking back in the Easy ID thread reminded me how many games I haven't played yet... [smiley=doh.gif]
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 8:08pm |
Igor HardyIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | My favorite puzzle/adventure hybrid (with a bit of simple platforming) is Braid.
I think it should be played by as many adventure games fans as possible, especially given how influential (and different in many ways) it is.
Covering independent adventure games in [URL=http://hardydev.com/][B]A Hardy Developer's Journal[/B][/URL]
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 8:46pm |
CulturaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Ah, ok, now I know why poor Cultura hasn't posted about it;
:-[
All that flak really made me shy away from the invitation Trav!
No seriously, I'll come up with some games, but I feel obliged to dig deep in my memory/archive before putting them up here.
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 8:53pm |
CulturaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I recently downd this game (and you can where its coming from)
[img]http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3213/18418.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2238/18429.jpg[/img]
which is a pure hybrid. I like these games just for the artwork alone. But they're fun to play too. I'll come up with some older games later!
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 8:54pm |
CulturaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I forgot: it is Nightmare Realm, from BF-studio's.
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| 14 AUG 2011 at 10:59pm |
Tally HoSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | I just played a fairly new one: F.A.C.E.S. (collector's edition) - enjoyed it very much. It's long enough (many hours) and quite engaging.
I would qualify it as a real adventure; due to the strong story line. I wouldn't know how to assign a percentage to the Hidden Object parts, but they are seamlessly integrated into the story. If you like adventures, but find hidden object scenarios abhorrent then don't play it, but if you can do them without feeling politically offended, by all means give it a try.
It gets a bit bloody and yucky, so be forewarned.
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| 15 AUG 2011 at 8:53am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Wow, this is turning into such a cool thread - thank you so much, people!
All that flak really made me shy away from the invitation Trav!
Hehe, it was for that very reason I seem to remember CB also posted one or two very interesting -looking hybrids) that I remembered these games from so far back. I was pretty busy at the time, and didn't have time to have a look at them properly, let alone play them.
Very pretty looking what you've posted again, btw.
I've started to acquire a taste for these casual-ish games now though, because of their relatively fast pace. Just what the doctor ordered if you don't have days and days to spend on a hard-core AG!
I usually prefer to be able to save where I like, as well as a degree of non-linearity, but the very linearity of these games lend themselves to playing in bits and pices when you have a bit of spare time here and there. With these linear games, one doesn't have to try and rack your brain as to where you left off last time as tends to be the case if you've left your hard-core AG or sandbox RPG lie fallow for too long...
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 15 AUG 2011 at 12:33pm |
CulturaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I think Big Fish is really putting in an effort to corner the market there. Btw: the screens are form the collectors edition, which has more puzzles and less HO.
My (possibly) all time fav crossover game is actually The Nomad Soul, from one of the most talented studio's on the globe if you ask me.
[img]http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/664/screen05s.jpg[/img]
Which succeeded (for the 1st time I think in Adventure gaming) in creating a full blown 3D cityscape, and a very believable one at that.
But that was not a game you could play at your leisure, since the saving system allowed for long sessions only....
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| 19 AUG 2011 at 10:15am |
CulturaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Very recently, I think The Fool was a nice hybrid game. As you can see from the screens, it is inventory/puzzle based, with some HO's but these HO's are mostly fun (the story starts in medieval times, but you need to locate a microwave oven or rollerskates...).
[img]http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7388/thefoolsc1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/497/fullversionthefool.jpg[/img]
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| 19 AUG 2011 at 2:14pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Looks nice, thanks Cultura. I think I'll be visiting Big Fish this weekend..
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 21 OCT 2011 at 9:13pm |
markornikovJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Drawn III (Trail of Shadows) has been released! 8-)
http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-games/14359/drawn-trail-of-shadows-collectors-edition/index.html?src=bfg12y0xenl2261&npc=email&npv1=01&npv2=04&npv3=20111021&npv4=00&npv5=12&npi=0_4[s][/s]
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| 21 OCT 2011 at 10:34pm |
walshSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | No mention of Gobliiins? It is THE ultimate puzzle-adventure in my view, definitely 'good' and one of the most fun.
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| 22 OCT 2011 at 4:51am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov (21 OCT 2011 9:13pm)
Drawn III (Trail of Shadows) has been released! 8-)
http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-games/14359/drawn-trail-of-shadows-collectors-edition/index.html?src=bfg12y0xenl2261&npc=email&npv1=01&npv2=04&npv3=20111021&npv4=00&npv5=12&npi=0_4[s][/s]
Very cool, but I only see the collector's version, there's no standard version available? Ah, let me guess. They're mirroring what the book industry does in publishing the hardcover editions first, and the paperback versions sometime later. If so, that's interesting, I hadn't noticed the game industry trying something like that before.
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| 22 OCT 2011 at 11:14am |
Tally HoSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | That's precisely what they are doing. There is a gap of four to six weeks between the Collector's Edition and the Standard release.
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For "members," they have a punch-card system whereby you can qualify for a free game. Buy two collector's games in a given month, you get a standard game free. Think of it as getting one of the collector's at the standard rate. Not a bad deal.
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| 22 OCT 2011 at 12:02pm |
markornikovJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Big Fish regularly tries out new marketing techniques.
I prefer collector's editions over dlc's, so i don't mind
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| 22 OCT 2011 at 12:35pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov (21 OCT 2011 9:13pm)
Drawn III (Trail of Shadows) has been released! 8-)
http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-games/14359/drawn-trail-of-shadows-collectors-edition/index.html?src=bfg12y0xenl2261&npc=email&npv1=01&npv2=04&npv3=20111021&npv4=00&npv5=12&npi=0_4[s][/s]
I've been in touch with CB, and he says: PS If you think of it let MarkO know I said thanks for the update on Drawn 3. I'll look for it next trip to Walmart.
Poor CB. I really hope they can get his account back to what it was... or at least somehow close to what it was. :-/
Anyway, I'm also glad to hear the Drawn 3 news.
Does Gobliiins have Adventure elements? I know of it, of course, but I've never played it.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 22 OCT 2011 at 7:47pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Good to hear you heard from CB. Yes, hopefully they can get his account up again soon.
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| 22 OCT 2011 at 11:10pm |
markornikovJourneyman
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Status : Offline | message received thank you , I also hope everything gets fixed soon
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| 23 OCT 2011 at 12:36am |
walshSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (22 OCT 2011 12:35pm)
Does Gobliiins have Adventure elements? I know of it, of course, but I've never played it.
Yes it does, if by that you mean an inventory, exploration, lots of puzzles and a (minimal) story. I would argue it's more adventure than puzzle, but the puzzle element becomes the most interesting part of the game due to having control of three characters (two in Gobliins 2 and only one in Goblins 3, which makes it the worst of the series). This means the way you need to think to solve the puzzles is often totally different from the normal adventure game method of "use this on that".
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