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| 8 AUG 2011 at 4:27pm |
| Deleted User | Honestly, I had no idea that Big Brother was so popular as to be recognized and produced in other countries. I mean Wheel of Fortune certainly, but not that. The kicker is that all along I had assumed that BB was a prime example of the unique state of current contemporary US culture, society and values as portrayed for our own entertainment purposes. :
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| 8 AUG 2011 at 4:38pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Just like the "America's Got Talent" show, BB is a worldwide franchise with localized shows. It's even older than the "Talent" reality show, IIRC.
I imagine each country likes to watch what members of their own culture gets up to in a potted situation.
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 8 AUG 2011 at 4:58pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (8 AUG 2011 4:26pm)
Honestly, I had no idea that Big Brother was so popular as to be recognized and produced in other countries. I mean Wheel of Fortune certainly, but not that. The kicker is that all along I had assumed that BB was a prime example of the unique state of current contemporary US culture, society and values as portrayed for our own entertainment purposes. :
Sorry to burst your bubble, but even I was surprised when I looked it up just now:
Big Brother is a television show in which a group of people live together in a large house, isolated from the outside world but continuously watched by television cameras. Each series lasts for around three months, and there are usually fewer than 15 participants. The housemates try to win a cash prize by avoiding periodic evictions from the house.
[highlight]The idea for the show is said to have come during a brainstorm session at the Dutch production house of John de Mol Produkties (an independent part of Endemol) on 4 September 1997. The first Big Brother broadcast was in the Netherlands in 1999 on the Veronica TV channel. It was picked up by Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Portugal, USA, UK, Spain, Belgium, Sweden, Switzerland and Italy the following year and became a world-wide sensation. Since then it has been a prime-time hit in almost 70 countries[/highlight].
(Highlights and underline are mine)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(TV_series)
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 8 AUG 2011 at 5:15pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (8 AUG 2011 4:58pm)
The idea for the show is said to have come during a brainstorm session at the Dutch production house of John de Mol Produkties (an independent part of Endemol) on 4 September 1997. The first Big Brother broadcast was in the Netherlands in 1999 on the Veronica TV channel.
Oh i remember the uproar that followed when they showed this broadcast on Belgian TV. The Dutch were frowned upon and ridiculed because of that show. Soon after it was picked up and turned into a local production though
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| 8 AUG 2011 at 11:29pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | This habit of selling the concept of a TV show which is then made with local content tailored to local tastes has been going on for decades. Most quiz shows are franchises. TV audiences see and hear their own language and assume the show is a local idea.
When people talk about the effects of cultural globalisation (usually disparagingly)) they often assume it's just the importation of foreign made (ie, American) TV shows but it's much more insidious than that. Often TV comedies are remade with local talent - eg The Office was remade in USA but wasn't as popular or funny as the original UK version.
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| 10 AUG 2011 at 9:21pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (8 AUG 2011 4:26pm)
Honestly, I had no idea that Big Brother was so popular as to be recognized and produced in other countries. I mean Wheel of Fortune certainly, but not that. The kicker is that all along I had assumed that BB was a prime example of the unique state of current contemporary US culture, society and values as portrayed for our own entertainment purposes. :
Big Brother ain't American, son. Not having anything to do with BB, but Dutch people are really evil. Especially if you're Serbian.
Nature's first green is gold,&&Her hardest hue to hold.&&Her early leaf's a flower;&&But only so an hour.&&Then leaf subsides to leaf.&&So Eden sank to grief,&&So dawn goes down to day.&&Nothing gold can stay.
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| 10 AUG 2011 at 10:50pm |
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Status : Offline | Good Lord CoD.... you can't call someone 'son' unless a) he is your son or b) you're as [s]ancient[/s] [s]venerably aged[/s] [s]antique[/s] [s]vintaged[/s] [s]decrepit[/s] old as SirDave.... And you definitely can't call someone you don't know and who is older than you, 'son' or even 'sonny' without it being construed as an insult.
I only tell you this because I am a firm believer that insults should never happen unintentionally, and you're doing so incredibly well conversing in English it would be a criminal act not help your understanding.
But it did make me chuckle.
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| 10 AUG 2011 at 11:51pm |
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Status : Offline | Ahhh, Big Brother... 11-13 weeks of working out which of the non-entities you dislike the least....and endless night-vision shots of people sleeping....
Spike Milligan (1918 - 2002) "A man can't have everything....Where would he keep it??"
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| 13 AUG 2011 at 11:53am |
Child Of DunwichPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Oh, sorry than. But if I say "ain't", I must say son, it said so in my "How to be a proper Southern American" I sit on my rocking chair in front of my house with a confederacy flag and a shotgun in my arms, and say: "Big Brother ain't american, son" Though, I'm serious about the Dutch. It's the beer. Evil. Pure evil.
Nature's first green is gold,&&Her hardest hue to hold.&&Her early leaf's a flower;&&But only so an hour.&&Then leaf subsides to leaf.&&So Eden sank to grief,&&So dawn goes down to day.&&Nothing gold can stay.
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| 13 AUG 2011 at 12:09pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By dwwa (10 AUG 2011 9:21pm)
Dutch people are really evil. Especially if you're Serbian.
You know there are Dutch people on this forum, right? : (And American Southerners, if I'm not mistaken. )
Well, possibly the Serbians are evil if you're Dutch.
But really - I'm curious. The Dutch and beer? :-? If you'd said the Germans/Scots/Irish/English (oh, I almost forgot the Aussies... [smiley=rofl.gif]) and beer, I could still half-understand perhaps. When I think Dutch, I think cheese...
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 13 AUG 2011 at 4:57pm |
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Status : Offline | yes he's right about the beer!!! >
Heineken is the worst beer in the world, yet somehow it's one of the most popular beers :
Thank god i live in a country that's almost a heineken free zone 8-)
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| 13 AUG 2011 at 11:07pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Just a heads up fellas..... one doesn't have to drink beer you don't like.... there are other drinks.
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| 15 AUG 2011 at 7:01pm |
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Status : Offline | My favorite reality shows are....
History Channel's Top Shot.....yes...I love guns!
America's Top Model....besides seeing a bevy of beautiful ladies....you get to see that being a top model is not always fun....not to mention that you cannot fake it. Many try their very best and find out that doing so makes matters much worse for them. Either you have the right stuff....or you do not!
The Apprentice....No; It's not the Donald and his "hair flip". You really get to see how people trying to form and carry a business get to interact and perform. A real learning experience for me.
And of course.....HELL'S KITCHEN [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
No...there is no way to fake the lack of performance from those that believe they have the right stuff, and instead are just full of HOT AIR!
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| 16 AUG 2011 at 3:29pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (10 AUG 2011 10:50pm)
Good Lord CoD.... you can't call someone 'son' unless a) he is your son or b) you're as [s]ancient[/s] [s]venerably aged[/s] [s]antique[/s] [s]vintaged[/s] [s]decrepit[/s] old as SirDave....
I am like a fine wine.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 16 AUG 2011 at 4:59pm |
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Status : Offline | The majority of reality shows don't appeal to me. Other than Jeopardy and a few episodes of Dancing with the Stars, I watch science fiction and mysteries.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 16 AUG 2011 at 6:28pm |
Child Of DunwichPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (13 AUG 2011 11:07pm)
Just a heads up fellas..... one doesn't have to drink beer you don't like.... there are other drinks.
Tell that to the Dutch. They won't let us in to the EU if we don't drink it. See now? :'(
Nature's first green is gold,&&Her hardest hue to hold.&&Her early leaf's a flower;&&But only so an hour.&&Then leaf subsides to leaf.&&So Eden sank to grief,&&So dawn goes down to day.&&Nothing gold can stay.
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