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| 27 APR 2011 at 6:46pm |
AShadowWalkerPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Caroline (21 APR 2011 12:11pm)
I am soooo looking forward to the royal wedding next week that I've bought myself the essential accessory.
[IMG]http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/629/princessdiring1c.jpg[/IMG]
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I have to tell you, it's jolly enormous but very pretty. Totally fake of course, but you knew that already, yes? [smiley=rofl.gif]
Does the gemstone flip up and have a secret photo of the groom!!
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| 28 APR 2011 at 2:09am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Ha..... no.... and I haven't taken a tip from Lucrezia Borga.... it doesn't flip up and dispense poison!!!!
There is so much royal wedding commentary on our TV every day that I'm in seventh heaven and get to wear my imitation Princess Di ring every day......
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| 28 APR 2011 at 10:00am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Enjoy your ring, Caroline. Life is too short not to make the most of it! 8-)
Please just don't tell me you're going to wear a hat and gloves on the wedding day! [smiley=laughing.gif]
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 28 APR 2011 at 12:17pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Wear a hat? Hmmmmm I may just now that you've put the idea into my head. If I'd thought of it earlier I'd love to have organised a proper wedding party with appropriate wedding outfits. But in a house with three men, it's hard to let the estrogen triumph.
However...... I will wear the matching earrings with that whopper of a ring. [smiley=rofl.gif]
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| 28 APR 2011 at 8:26pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | I'll be doing my best to ignore the poxy wedding of two nobodies tomorrow
Dear Diary, My teenage angst bullsh*t now has a bodycount.
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| 29 APR 2011 at 8:20am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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the fun version
I've put my old wedding tiara on... The Brits are having a lot of fun in London rigtht now with quite a few in the crowd wearing wedding costumes... [smiley=rofl.gif]
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| 29 APR 2011 at 11:15am |
MarkGuild Master
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Okay, so...ah... they're hitched. My sinceres.
I sent them a plum pudding as a wedding gift.
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| 29 APR 2011 at 12:44pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I watched it from about the time Elton John arrived. The wedding was perfect timing for us in Ontartio. I just saw them on the balcony.
My favorite part was the afterwards in the carriage. All those magnificent calvalry - it was timeless.
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| 29 APR 2011 at 1:08pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | I've had the TV on from mid-afternoon. What a lovely experience. And you're right Colpet, the long shots of the cavalry coming down the mall.... awesome.
Her dress was exquisite - the perfect Princess dress. But her sister Philippa was outstandingly beautiful and elegant. Some of the hats were ridiculous - especially Prince Andrew's girls' outfits. [smiley=shaking_head.gif]
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| 29 APR 2011 at 2:47pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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| 29 APR 2011 at 2:52pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I didn't watch all of it, but enough to see the Queen in her canary pastel outfit with cute hat from Alice in Wonderland that grows on you.
EDIT: [edit]edited the bit about the queen's outfit. After seeing actual photographs in different media - I realise it's not so bright after all - and our television screen really needs a colour recalibration. Oh well. Apologies for that to all the supporters of QE, and QE herself - not that she'd really care, I don't think.. [/edit]
Kate made a beautiful bride, and Wills cut quite a dashing figure in spite of the premature balding.
I did stay on long enough to watch the carriage procession, and my, there really is nothing to beat an ornate horse-drawn carriage for pure picturesque eye-candy, is there? It just wouldn't have been the same were it not for the horses and carriages.
I just loved the pomp and ceremony of it, all the tradition, the guards standing on ceremony and/or accompanying them, just adding to the grandeur of the occasion.
I'm sure a lot of Brits will agree with me that all the pomp, ceremony and sense of occasion is worth all the tax money spent on it - though I do feel that the Royal family should be digging in and paying a lot of it themselves, don't you think? (Which they apparently did, and the Middleton's weren't too stingy either..- ouch! Just hope your daughter never marries a Royal and you have to dig in with the bills, not to mention the dress... )
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 29 APR 2011 at 2:59pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Oh, and re the hats - yes, what is it with them and their hats? Maybe it's because hats aren't worn so often anymore that there isn't really a current standard for hats - but I'll bet you I've seen much more elegant hats on the haute couture catwalks than on the heads of the Royal family and friends.... [smiley=shaking_head.gif]
...so Caroline, you say you didn't join in and also wear a hat today?
EDIT: Ah, I see you're wearing your tiara along with your other finery. Well, I'll bet your tiara looks a lot more elegant than some of the contraptions or floppy sun hats on the heads of the people parading around the wedding... still, there were some very interesting hats, that really actually approaches art.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 30 APR 2011 at 8:13am |
MarkGuild Master
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"MAWWAGE... IS WHAT BWINGS US…TOGETHAH… TODAY."
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| 30 APR 2011 at 6:22pm |
loobilooPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | I watched the wedding yesterday & boo to all you cynicists! This was about two people in love & totally in tune with each other who wanted to get married but had to do it in the eyes of the world. It was spectacular & as far as I know not paid for the most part by taxpayers! The Queen is a very elderly lady, I thought she looked wonderful & the choice of her attire for the occasion should be respected - some people of that age may have turned up in a creased dress, cardie & slippers! [smiley=laughing.gif] Whether you agree with the monarchy or not how many 'republicans' protested that they didn't want a day off work because they didn't agree with it? Also, out of the many street parties there were a few that were strictly 'not a royal wedding one' - well don't be so hypocritical! - you couldn't have had one of those without a royal wedding & the day off!
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| 30 APR 2011 at 6:40pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By loobiloo (30 APR 2011 6:22pm)
I watched the wedding yesterday & boo to all you cynicists! This was about two people in love & totally in tune with each other who wanted to get married but had to do it in the eyes of the world. It was spectacular & as far as I know not paid for the most part by taxpayers! The Queen is a very elderly lady, I thought she looked wonderful & the choice of her attire for the occasion should be respected - some people of that age may have turned up in a creased dress, cardie & slippers! [smiley=laughing.gif] Whether you agree with the monarchy or not how many 'republicans' protested that they didn't want a day off work because they didn't agree with it? Also, out of the many street parties there were a few that were strictly 'not a royal wedding one' - well don't be so hypocritical! - you couldn't have had one of those without a royal wedding & the day off!
Like I said, it was a lovely and impressive spectacle, but if I don't like what the queen was wearing, I can't make myself like it, and I don't like it. Personal taste is personal taste. I much prefer her in blue, which I feel suits her in every way, besides being dignified, but hey, the lady can wear what she wants to, right? Even if some of us don't like all her outfits. I consoled myself with the thought that she most probably tried to look cheery in her yellow, and for that I salute her .
Regarding the public holiday - well, if they were concerned about the economy, they could have had the wedding on one of the public holidays in May, or even on a Saturday afternoon, but I've heard murmurs that the timing of the wedding was political. Not being deeply involved in British politics myself, I'll not get involved in a discussion on that, since I don't have the background knowledge to comment on it.
And yes, the families of the bride and groom apparently did pay most of the immediate costs themselves.
Another nice touch is that wedding presents were accepted as cash and donated to charity.
Costs notwithstanding, Something rather important that many other people possibly also felt, is that my heart swelled at the feeling of national pride displayed by the Brits, and all those Union Jacks being waved madly about. A feeling of national pride is a very cool thing to have. 8-)
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 30 APR 2011 at 7:21pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Re: The queen wearing yellow:
She likes Coldplay.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 30 APR 2011 at 8:06pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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There was a wedding?
Cheers, Terry
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| 1 MAY 2011 at 1:33am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | I thought the Queen looked terrific. Her choice of yellow told everyone how happy she was about this marriage - and she wore Queen Mary's true love knot brooch - again, as a message. Even Princess Anne got tizzied up (although I didn't like her outfit) and when her daughter marries later this year, the groom will look like one of the security contingent). Apart from Beatrice & Eugenie most of the women got it spot on. I thought the Spencer girls all looked like delicious young debs.... Chelsey Davey looked a total wreck.... Pippa looked fantabulous.... and that fluffy white bolero Kate wore in the evening was just so cute....
I didn't see Princess Alexandra and haven't seen any photos of her -where was she I wonder - but the Duchess of Kent was looking frail.
I have seen a few American commentators on youtube making uninformed comments about there not being enough black faces.... and the Queen's outfit. Just like to say, HM is 86, still has all her marbles, drives herself around, and walks without a stick. Jolly remarkable and she deserves respect. She dressed the way she likes - not as some fashion victim. Victoria Beckham..... I'm talking about you, you twit.... those shoes.... [smiley=shaking_head.gif] )
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| 1 MAY 2011 at 3:05am |
HelenGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I didnt get to watch much of it but caught some of it on the news and 20/20.
I thought Kate looked wonderful and I actually enjoy all the Hoopla.
I just have alot of personal stuff going on and just couldnt make the time to try and watch it.
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| 1 MAY 2011 at 4:58am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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| 1 MAY 2011 at 8:53am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (1 MAY 2011 1:33am)
Just like to say, HM is 86, still has all her marbles, drives herself around, and walks without a stick. Jolly remarkable and she deserves respect. She dressed the way she likes - not as some fashion victim.
Right, not liking a person, or not liking the colour of somebody's outfit, doesn't mean that you are disrespecting them. (Ok, I know I was nasty about the hat, but I posted a smiley to show that I was just being miscievous there - the hat reminded me of some depictions I've seen of the hatter's hat in Alice.).
Now, like I said, I do not like aspects of Queen Elizabeth. Let me elaborate why: She seems like an iron-willed, domineering mother, who never shows any real warmth towards her children. I've always felt sorry for Charles. It always seems to me as if she is turning him in to an outsider, into someone who feels he does not quite "fit in". Then the man bent backwards trying to please her, by marrying someone meeting her approval, but whom he he did not love, and we all know how that ended.
Did you know that Queen Elizabeth's parents disapproved of her marrying Philip of Greece (Mountbatten)? But Elizabeth had her father (like everybody else) under her thumb, and nagged him until he allowed her to marry him. (And a very good consort Prince Phillip did make, I always thought, btw. )
Now, not liking certain of her qualities, does not mean that, at the same time, I do not also admire and respect many of the qualities that makes her a good queen. And a good queen she most certainly is - there's no question of me direspecting her as a sovereign. That does not mean I have to like her as a person, or the colour of her dress. (Though perhaps the colour settings on our TV does need some recalibrating - I'll look into that. )
But even as a person, I will give you that I admire her strength of character - I would just hate to have her as a mother, though.
Royalty are people, just like you and me, and I don't hold with bowing to the ground to a person just because he was lucky enough to be born into a certain family. It is how the person handles himself that enforces respect - in my book anyway. People like Mahatma Ghandhi, Martin Luther King, and Nelson Mandela hold my respect, and they were not born into royalty. Emperors Caligula and Nero, were, and they definitely do not hold my respect.
Like I said, I do respect that Q Elizabeth has always played her role as sovereign admirably. And being 86 and still being able to drive your car is luck - she's lucky to have inherited good genes. I had many family members who still lived on their own into their 90's and drove cars almost into their 90's. All of these were headstrong people - and do you have any idea how exasperating a crusty, strongwilled headstrong old person nearing ninety can be? ( I suspect you do)
So being old and still out and about will not in itself enforce my respect, though Queen Elizabeth does have other qualities that do enforce my respect. (Her strength, dignity, and sense of duty, for instance) ...but that still does not mean I have to like or not be surprised by, her particular shade of bright neon yellow dress... :-/
Prime minister Julia Gillard always dresses impeccably, but were she suddenly to appear in a neon green or bright purple or orange dress, and I had a fright, because that is not how I'm used to seeing her, and I commented on the style and/or colour, does that mean that I fundamentally disrespect her? Gee, whatever happened to freedom of thought and speech...
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 1 MAY 2011 at 10:22am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Now here is a royal one could be fond of and admire: Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother
Note; she became 101, and still walked around and was publicly active until close to her death. Her daughter still has a way to go before she catches up.
Best of all, though - she had a sense of humor. 8-)
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 1 MAY 2011 at 7:43pm |
loobilooPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Hi Traveller, I respect your opinion on the choice of outfit for Queen E - you didn't like it but the trouble with being in blue was that she would have clashed with the bride's mother! [smiley=laughing.gif] I thought the yellow made her stand out from all the other pastelly shades of the many guests which I guess was the purpose of her wearing a bright and unusual color for her - I had reservations about the hat when I first saw it but it grew on me & thought it suited her!
I don't know how you can say you don't like a person with so few facts & a lot of rumors - what someone seems like & how they actually are could be worlds apart & I'm not sure anyone who doesn't know is in a position to judge.
It has to be a double-edged sword being part of a royal family - i.e. you have wealth & the world at your feet but come into the world with obligations to meet when you get older & the world watching you - the parents job surely has to ensure that their offspring are prepared for this & there doesn't seem to be much of a choice as there would be for members of any other wealthy, less noticeable families.
Hopefully 'princess' Kate has been informed of expectations better than her late mother-in-law Diana who was a teenager when she married. That was very much a marriage of convenience (for the royal family) that resulted in her death & Charles marrying the woman he wanted in the first place - I hope some lessons have been learnt there by the 'royal advisors'.
I truly believe that if Diana had been more discreet about her personal life after her marriage failed she would still be alive today. The royal family are discreet which is why Sarah Ferguson is not invited to anything (BTW I thought her daughters hats were hideous!) -toe-sucking is one thing but the prospect of the second in line to the throne having a 'bastard' muslim half-sibling was more than was going to be entertained. I will just say that I am in no way racist or religiousist but it wasn't a wise way for Diana to try & stick her two fingers up!
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| 1 MAY 2011 at 8:23pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I totally agree with most of your comments. Princess Diana certainly did not behave as she should have. It is one thing to be born into royalty - one can't very much help that, but if you marry into it, you should be prepared to take the good of it along with the bad of it. I find myself feeling pretty ambivalent about her - (or the public figure that represented Princess Diana - meaning everything we had seen, heard or read about her) because I felt some sympathy towards her - she seems to have had a kind heart, but goodness, did she also behave in an undiginified manner (from what we have seen, read or heard about her.)
Regarding Diana's death - you realise what one of the implications are that can be read into that, eh? In fact, I've always personally felt that the mother of the future king, having died while pregnant with, what like you say was probably the illegitemate offspring of her latest lover, was simply too convenient to have happened at the time it did, for one to be entirely sure that it was in fact pure co-incidence... but that is only a suspicion, of course, and one wouldn't know at whose door to lay any possible blame.
What does seem to be a fact, is that Diana was not behaving with the restraint and dignity that befits a queen, or a royal princess who is the wife of one heir to the throne, and the mother of the other 2 heirs to the throne.
I do appreciate that she was warm-hearted, but it does not seem as if a warm heart is what a member of royalty needs.
Regarding the queen's outfit - well, let's just say my reaction here was my initial reaction, and I'd forgotten that our TV's colours are a bit out. I actually thought the hat was cute. It was different, and like you said it kind of grew on you.
On the other hand, I must re-iterate that I hate it when people in this day and age still treat royalty like they are gods to be revered, and not mere mortals. Ah, well, I suppose one part of me is a royalist, and another part is not.
I want to ask you a question - if I said to you that I do or don't like Henry Nixon or Justin Bieber or Madonna, would you also say I cannot like or dislike them based upon the little I know about them? Surely it is a given that we re-act towards public figures based on their public image?
Let me then rephrase: based on what I have seen, heard and read about or of Queen Elizabeth, I do not like or respond positively towards that public persona that represents Queen Elizabeth, in everything I have heard, read or seen of her and about her. I feel that everybody is entitled to their personal likes and dislikes. I might adore Brad Pitt, but you might hate his guts. I might like ketchup, you might not enjoy the taste. You might like and respect Queen Elizabeth very much, (as a public figure) - I'm surely allowed to like her (as a public figure) less. Or am I not?
Oh, and for the record, now that I've seen photo's on the internet, that yellow outfit looks a lot more pastelly, and actually looks quite nice. On our TV, it had cast a sort of glow effect that made poor QE's face look green, which was one of the main reasons I thought it didn't suit her. But now I see this was just an illusion. Ugh, our tubes must be going, or we really need to fiddle with the settings.
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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