| 23 MAR 2011 at 7:04am |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Back in 2005 I did this list
TOP 50 ADVENTURE GAMES:
50 Syberia
49 Runaway
48 Under a Killing Moon
47 Frederik Pohl's Gateway
46 Escape from Monkey Island
45 Discworld II: Mortality Bytes (aka Discworld II: Missing presumed ...?)
44 Morpheus
43 Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
42 John Saul's Blackstone Chronicles
41 Gateway 2: Homeworld
40 The Journeyman Project 3
39 Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
38 Death Gate
37 Discworld
36 Erik the Unready
35 Deja Vu 1
34 Broken Sword 2: The Smoking Mirror
33 I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream
32 The Dig
31 The Journeyman Project 2
30 Future Wars
29 Nightlong
28 Full Throttle
27 Myst IV
26 Blade Runner
25 Discworld Noir
24 Dagger of Amon Ra
23 Rama
22 Black Dahlia
21 Amber
20 Dark Side of the Moon
19 The Last Express
18 Cruise for a Corpse
17 Riddle of Master Lu
16 Beneath a Steel Sky
15 Sanitarium
14 Black Mirror
13 Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis
12 The Longest Journey
11 Gabriel Knight 3
10 Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within
9 The Pandora Directive
8 Broken Sword 1: Shadow of the Templars
7 Curse of Monkey Island
6 Secret of Monkey Island
5 Monkey Island II: LeChuck's Revenge
4 Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers
3 Sam & Max Hit the Road
2 Grim Fandango
1 Day of the Tentacle
Hard pushed to think of any game since 2005 that would creep into the top 50.
Maybe..
Heavy Rain
Dreamfall
Scratches
Culpa Innata
Perry Rhodan
Vampyre Story
Telltale games ???????
Professor Layton ??
I would need to think about it.
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| 23 MAR 2011 at 9:33am |
GreyFussPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | In alphabetical order
Blackstone Chronicles
Black Dahlia
Dark Side of the Moon
Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within
Myst III: Exile
Myst V: End of Ages
Phantasmagoria: Prey its only a Nightmare
Phantasmagoria: A Puzzle of Flesh
Rhem 3
Syberia 1 + 2
"Don't Hate Me Because I Am Beautiful...There Are Many Other Reasons"
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| 23 MAR 2011 at 11:26am |
walshSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Lucien, your list is almost perfect! I'd only disagree about the order of some (Black Mirror so high?) and the presence of Myst IV instead of Myst or Riven and what in god's name is Escape From Monkey Island doing there especially above Syberia . Glad to see Callahan's Crosstime Saloon which I think would make my top 10.
I liked Phantasmagoria a lot, and I'd add Zork Nemesis too. I'd have to add at least one of the Space Quests (I through 5 are candidates) and maybe a King's Quest (V or VI?), and Freddy Pharkas. Sierra had a lot of great adventures. Star Trek: Judgment Rites would probably make my list too.
As for games since 2005 I'd definitely include one of the Sherlock Holmes games, maybe The Awakened, and Lost Crown.
If we include text adventures my list would be a lot different.
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| 23 MAR 2011 at 3:10pm |
FnordSchattenjger
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Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | My choice of top 10 AGs fluctuates quite a bit with my mood, but here is my current list:
1: Riven
2: Myst 4: End of ages
3: Schizm (Mysterious journey)
4: Syberia
5: Sherlock Holmes: The awakened
6: Penumbra: overture
7: The pandora directive
8: The Dig
9: Shadowgate
10: The last express
Though ask me tomorrow and my list will be slightly different. You will still find several of those games on that list, but possibly in another order. Games like Beneath a steel sky, Curse of monkey island, Under a killing moon, The void and plenty of others nearly make it to the list.
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| 23 MAR 2011 at 3:33pm |
tincup2Journeyman
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Status : Offline | My choice of top 10 AGs fluctuates quite a bit with my mood, but here is my current list:
To put it mildly..
In no particular order and subject to change at a moments notice:
Myst & Riven
The Neverhood
Dracula 1 & 2
Zork Nemesis
Amber
Bad Day on the Midway
Last Express
Barrow Hill
Dog Day
Lighthouse
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| 23 MAR 2011 at 5:45pm |
tincup2Journeyman
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Location: US, NYC
Status : Offline | OK, it's tough sticking to my own rules - here are some other perenial contenders:
Dark Fall series
Myst 3 & 4
Nine
Bad Mojo
Scratches
SPQR
Riddle of the Sphinx/Omega Stone
Grim Fandango
Dark Eye
Crystal Key 1 [may be the only person who liked this one]
Necronomicon
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| 23 MAR 2011 at 9:07pm |
karlaAdministrator
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Location: US, Close to the Edge
Status : Offline | In alphabetical order:
Culpa Innata (particularly uncut)
Dreamfall
The Longest Journey
Perry Rhodan
Scratches
Still Life (the first one only)
Syberia
Syberia 2
Er... Okay, I know that's only eight. I honestly can't think of any others right now. [smiley=shrug.gif]
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| 24 MAR 2011 at 12:20am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | As usual, this is tough. I have around 20 games I could easily fit into the top 10.
1. Riven
2. Obsidian
3. Myst
4. Gabriel Knight 1
5. Day of the Tentacle
6. Monkey Island 1
7. Gabriel Knight 2
8. Broken Sword 1
9. Myst 4
10. The Neverhood
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| 24 MAR 2011 at 3:04pm |
tincup2Journeyman
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Status : Offline | Oops I left out Qin. Make that game 27 in my top 10...
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| 24 MAR 2011 at 7:02pm |
markornikovJourneyman
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Location: BE, Antwerp
Status : Offline | 1.King's Quest VII
2.Broken Sword II
3.Dreamfall
4.Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit
5.King's Quest V
6.Runaway 1&2 (not 3!)
8.Belief&Betrayal
9.Blade Runner
10.Myst IV
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| 24 MAR 2011 at 7:06pm |
loobilooPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | I couldn't possibly fit my all time top games into a list of 10 but here are some of them in no particular order:
Gabriel Knight 2
Gabriel Knight 1
Black Mirror 2
Gray Matter
The Blackstone Chronicles
Syberia 1
Syberia 2
Cupla Innata
Paradise
Overclocked
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| 24 MAR 2011 at 11:11pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Location: US
Status : Online | Off the top of my head and subject to change:
1. Riven
2. Myst
3. Schizm
4. Rhem
5. Myst 3
6. Obsidian
7. Myst 4
8. Alida
9. Gabriel Knight 1
10. Aura
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 25 MAR 2011 at 12:02am |
StilerJourneyman
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Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | 1. Syberia series
2. Sanitarium
3. Gabriel Knight series (if we have to pick just one, then the 2nd).
4. Grim Fandango
5. Still life
6. Blade Runner
7. Dark Earth (A very underrated gem of a game)
8. Silent Hill (I know it's more a survival horror but I see it as an adventure as well).
9. Heavy Rain (story had plotholes galore, but the experience of playing it was great, not like any other adventure game aside from Fahrenheit).
10. Fahrenheit (half way it takes a turn yea, but before thought I love the game just the same, keeps you on the edge of your seat and took the genre in ia new direction).
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| 25 MAR 2011 at 3:20am |
eaglesIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | 1. Gabriel knight 1
2. The Lost Crown
3. Gabriel knight 3.
4. Gabriel Knight 2, ( yes not tim curry, but they did a great job on the opera aspect.
5. Darkness within.
6. Culpa innata
7. Shivers ( Ha, didn''t think you'd see one of these on the lists)
8. Gray matter
9. Full Throttle!!
10. Lost souls
Wow this was, I think my mind switched games in and out like 100 times. I;d make the same list again in a week and it would change too. But Gabriel Knight was my first game, It came free when I ordered Shivers 2 online back in the day. Still have the original box in mint condition with fun comic book.
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| 25 MAR 2011 at 10:06am |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
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Location: PT
Status : Offline | 1-Broken Sword: The Shadow of Templars
2-Dreamfall
3-The Longest Journey
4-Culpa Innata
5-Still Life
6-Broken Sword: Broken Mirror
7-Heavy Rain
8-Fahrenheit
9-Sherlock Holmes vs. Jack the Ripper
10-Syberia I
I hate these rankings... pure cruelty :-X
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 2:47am |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Man, you guys are depressing me. No wonder the future of adventure games are in flux, if not threatened.
Do you really want more games like Grim Fandango? Or would you prefer games like TLJ...Riven...or Monkey Island? Or even better?
Everyone in this thread is expressing a personal opinion. Wonderful, but not helpful.
Think of it this way....If you were God of Games and could choose the ultimate path for the genre, which would you choose that would please the most fans and make the most money? What style would you dictate? What elements are most important?
That's right...you have to take your personal opinion out of the equation and look at the stats. But, here, we don't have the stats. All we have is personal desires.
Not so easy-peasy.
The big divide for me here is cartoony vs realism. Two very different genres, IMO. Apart from that, any game must have story and realistic and emotional characters and, hopefully, a sequel.
The old games some of you mention have great stories...however, today the graphics are very bad. So update yourself. Tell us what would make a great game today, if released in 2011. Tell us what would improve your old game, as well as why it was so wonderful. Help us build tomorrow's classics (if there is interest to build adventure games).
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 4:41am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TAS (26 MAR 2011 2:47am)
Man, you guys are depressing me. No wonder the future of adventure games are in flux, if not threatened.
Do you really want more games like Grim Fandango? Or would you prefer games like TLJ...Riven...or Monkey Island? Or even better?
Everyone in this thread is expressing a personal opinion. Wonderful, but not helpful.
Think of it this way....If you were God of Games and could choose the ultimate path for the genre, which would you choose that would please the most fans and make the most money? What style would you dictate? What elements are most important?
That's right...you have to take your personal opinion out of the equation and look at the stats. But, here, we don't have the stats. All we have is personal desires.
Not so easy-peasy.
The big divide for me here is cartoony vs realism. Two very different genres, IMO. Apart from that, any game must have story and realistic and emotional characters and, hopefully, a sequel.
The old games some of you mention have great stories...however, today the graphics are very bad. So update yourself. Tell us what would make a great game today, if released in 2011. Tell us what would improve your old game, as well as why it was so wonderful. Help us build tomorrow's classics (if there is interest to build adventure games).
What on earth is bad about Grim Fandango? it's a timeless classic for many adventure fans.
As far as " updating" the genre, have you played Heavy Rain? Not only is it an adventure game, but it is one of the best looking games out there for the ps3. Sold fairly well and had very high review scores. Gameplay it moves away from point and clicking over and more toward story, choices, letting things be more "logical" and moving the story along even if you perhaps miss or do something differently (which itihe story goes around, it affects things and can drastically change how it plays out, even from characters living or dying).
Quantic dream is the only studio, to me at least, that is taking the genre "ahead." That isn't to say I don't like or enjoy classic style point and click adventures or anything, but I think the way forward is being paved by games like Heavy Rain.
Can't wait to see their new game that they are working on (it's not a sequel to heavy rain either, but in the same vain, like Fahrenheit before it).
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 5:35am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Location: US
Status : Online | Originally Posted By TAS (26 MAR 2011 2:47am)
Man, you guys are depressing me. No wonder the future of adventure games are in flux, if not threatened.
I wondered who'd caused this big mess!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 8:38am |
Igor HardyIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 67
Joined: 27 SEP 2010
Status : Online | Grim Fandango
Gabriel Knight 1 & 2
Monkey Island 2 & 3
Riven
Black Dahlia
Azrael's Tear
Indiana Jones & Fate of Atlantis
Discworld
Dreamweb
Grim Fandango is easily the best adventure game of all time!
Covering independent adventure games in [URL=http://hardydev.com/][B]A Hardy Developer's Journal[/B][/URL]
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 11:37am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TAS (26 MAR 2011 2:47am)
Man, you guys are depressing me. No wonder the future of adventure games are in flux, if not threatened.
Do you really want more games like Grim Fandango? Or would you prefer games like TLJ...Riven...or Monkey Island? Or even better?
Everyone in this thread is expressing a personal opinion. Wonderful, but not helpful.
Think of it this way....If you were God of Games and could choose the ultimate path for the genre, which would you choose that would please the most fans and make the most money? What style would you dictate? What elements are most important?
That's right...you have to take your personal opinion out of the equation and look at the stats. But, here, we don't have the stats. All we have is personal desires.
Not so easy-peasy.
The big divide for me here is cartoony vs realism. Two very different genres, IMO. Apart from that, any game must have story and realistic and emotional characters and, hopefully, a sequel.
The old games some of you mention have great stories...however, today the graphics are very bad. So update yourself. Tell us what would make a great game today, if released in 2011. Tell us what would improve your old game, as well as why it was so wonderful. Help us build tomorrow's classics (if there is interest to build adventure games).
If I were the God of Games I'd make them all cartoony! [smiley=skull_laugh.gif]
Halcyon. Look at the title of the thread. [highlight]All time [/highlight]Top 10 AG's. I read that as saying what would you say are the best AG's of [highlight]all time[/highlight].
..and this having such a huge scope, I'm hard pressed to choose some myself, since I myself missed out on some of the oldies, and my own repertoire leans quite heavily towards more recent games.
..and you might just find Dracula Origin amongst them... [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 11:55am |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (26 MAR 2011 11:37am)
Halcyon. Look at the title of the thread. [highlight]All time [/highlight]Top 10 AG's. I read that as saying what would you say are the best AG's of [highlight]all time[/highlight].
Indeed. You say we should update ourselves, Halcyon, but I think rather you should put yourself in a contemporaneous mindset and look at, say, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis with an eye to what someone would have expected in 1992. It was beautiful. Artistically, it still is, and that's why the Monkey Island remakes still work so well with just a graphic and auditory facelift: LucasArts made excellent adventure games, pure and simple. I won't ignore a game just because it's old.
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 12:01pm |
colpetSchattenjger
Posts : 1630
Joined: 12 APR 2003
Status : Offline | My list:
Riven
Myst Exile
RealMyst
Rhem
Rhem3
Black Dahlia
Gabriel Knight 2 Beast Within
Gabriel Knight 3 Blood of the Sacred
Riddle of the Sphinx
Zork Nemesis
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 1:57pm |
tincup2Journeyman
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Status : Offline | So update yourself. Tell us what would make a great game today, if released in 2011.
For myself? Simple: Imagine they are cleaning out an old storage room at Broderbund and they find a few more Ages to the original Myst [or even just one] that had somehow fallen to the cutting room floor and never saw the light of day. That would really make my day.
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| 26 MAR 2011 at 2:17pm |
tincup2Journeyman
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Location: US, NYC
Status : Offline | @Halcyon Everyone in this thread is expressing a personal opinion. Wonderful, but not helpful.
.......
That's right...you have to take your personal opinion out of the equation and look at the stats. But, here, we don't have the stats. All we have is personal desires.
Fine by me. If you want to list the Top 10 AG's by game units sold that's fair to do. I'd be curious. But really I was interested in people's own "Top 10" - though a "Your" at the beginning of the Subject title would have made that clearer. But yes, post the stats if you got em. It's all good. Personally though I prefer opion to sales figures when discussing the merits of games.
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