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| 5 MAR 2011 at 1:20am |
markornikovJourneyman
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Status : Offline | HOG's will probably commit suicide soon, BigFish is really flooding the market, but i doubt they'll keep the genre innovative enough to sell new titles. I myself am no longer interested in HOG's
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 1:22am |
HelenGuild Master
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Location: US
Status : Offline | I dont think they will replace them but I have to agree they are all over the place.
Today I was in Walmart and always check out the pc games and there were so many casual hidden object games I couldnt believe it. I could only WISH there were that many adventures to choose from. :-/
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 2:05am |
chronotigger65Journeyman
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Joined: 23 FEB 2005
Status : Offline | The only HOGs I've played are the Drawn series though I'm not entirely sure if they are. I consider them part AG/part HOG. I'm looking forward to the third game of the series.
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 2:11am |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Gamer (5 MAR 2011 1:22am)
Today I was in Walmart and always check out the pc games and there were so many casual hidden object games I couldnt believe it. I could only WISH there were that many adventures to choose from.
Which proves they aren't "replacing" adventure games, because there were never that many adventure games to replace.
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 2:40am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Exactly.
Casual/"hidden object" market is huge and of course it's easier to churn out a ton of games with pretty pictures to click on than design good puzzles. It's all about the money, as usual.
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 7:26am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By chronotigger65 (5 MAR 2011 2:05am)
The only HOGs I've played are the Drawn series though I'm not entirely sure if they are. I consider them part AG/part HOG. I'm looking forward to the third game of the series.
If you think the Drawn series are HOG's, then you're probably not quite sure what a HOG is. A HOG presents you with a screen full of objects and you have to find certain listed objects amongst the other objects. The listed objects are very often hard to spot amongst the jumble.
It is true that many of the puzzles in Drawn is inventory based and requires you to "find" objects, but it is a far cry from being given a shopping list of objects you are required to find on a single screen. In the Drawn games, you can move from area to area and you have to figure out by yourself what the next object is you have to find to complete the next puzzle.
In inventory-based AG's , one also has to "find objects" in order to complete puzzles, but that does not make them a HOG. (HOG stands for "Hidden Object Game"
Drawn has subtle HOG elements, but is possibly rather closer to what they call a "puzzle" game, although the "ream Chronicles" are probably better examples of the latter. (Puzzle games).
Have you tried the Dream Chronicles series yet? You might like them.
I'd say the Drawn games are inventory-based +puzzle AG hybrids with occasional subtle HOG elements.
Quite a good HOG is "Return to Ravenhearst", in that it tries to add a bit of variety and story, but sadly one has to plod through the first Ravenhearst game in order to really know what is going on. The first Ravenhearst game is a very good example of a true, traditional HOG. You can try it out to see what a true HOG is like, or you can try out the rather fun (it's one HOG that I really enjoyed) Samantha Swift and the Hidden Roses of Athena.
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 12:12pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Trav is definitely right: Drawn is far more sophisticated than a simple HOG. In fact, I believe that we're going to see much, much more games like it in the future.
Eventually, even those who love HOGs will get tired of them and they'll ask for more. Drawn is just about the right "progression".
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 4:10pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By chronotigger65 (5 MAR 2011 12:41am)
I've been wondering if the hidden object genre is replacing the adventure game. I see them all over the place in places where they usually sell adventure games. This is just a speculation and I'd like to hear other opinions on this subject.
Fecking better not be.
Or else...........
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 7:43pm |
SteveSpace Cadet
Posts : 112
Joined: 3 DEC 2003
Status : Offline | I've never actually played a Hidden Object Game so I won't comment on whether they are any good or not, but seeing the screenshots of them does always make me laugh a little. You can have centuries old tombs with the brightest coloured objects in (umbrellas, beach balls etc) which look so totally out of place. So much clutter in one room too, crazy!
Ok so I just made that scenario up, but you get my point.
I will actually have to try one some day and see if the stories are any good, I'm sure they are still fun
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| 5 MAR 2011 at 10:19pm |
loobilooPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Steve (5 MAR 2011 7:42pm)
..... You can have centuries old tombs with the brightest coloured objects in (umbrellas, beach balls etc) which look so totally out of place. So much clutter in one room too, crazy!
Ok so I just made that scenario up, but you get my point.
For something you made up it's not inaccurate for some games! [smiley=laughing.gif]
I will actually have to try one some day and see if the stories are any good, I'm sure they are still fun
Casual games have progressed quite a lot - many have excellent story lines, have less 'hidden object screens', have great graphics, good puzzles & lots of 'adventure elements'. The good ones are fun but still lack the depth & challenge of a good adventure game! [smiley=smiley.gif]
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