| 1 APR 2011 at 8:57pm |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I guess it's time to reload an earlier save lol, sucks that you have to either finish without her or replay some hours to do it.
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| 1 APR 2011 at 9:03pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By placeholder (1 APR 2011 7:10pm)
Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (1 APR 2011 6:40pm)
I wonder IF there is any type of safe spot for the Varterral. :-/
That one is a BAAAD, bad baddie... [smiley=zombie.gif] I did manage to kill it, though. 8-) .. or actually Avaline did in the end.
Oh well, second time around is the charm. Twas a group effort really, well minus me that is. :-[
Gosh Trav, so sorry to hear that. Ouch.
I wish I had posted something the first time you indicated you were still looking for her, esp if it was during act one. I just assumed that...guess I assumed wrong.
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| 1 APR 2011 at 9:05pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Stiler (1 APR 2011 8:57pm)
I guess it's time to reload an earlier save lol, sucks that you have to either finish without her or replay some hours to do it.
"Some hours?" I'd have to go back to before Deep Roads, and I was at the Qunari gate for the final thingie of act 2 when I realised all of this.
It took me at least the last week to play through the Deep Roads and the entire act 2...
I guess I'll have to make the decision to go without her; :'( and all this time I kept hoping that I'll get her sometime, somewhere in act 2... [smiley=hair_pull.gif]
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 1 APR 2011 at 9:08pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (1 APR 2011 9:03pm)
Originally Posted By placeholder (1 APR 2011 7:10pm)
Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (1 APR 2011 6:40pm)
I wonder IF there is any type of safe spot for the Varterral. :-/
That one is a BAAAD, bad baddie... [smiley=zombie.gif] I did manage to kill it, though. 8-) .. or actually Avaline did in the end.
Oh well, second time around is the charm. Twas a group effort really, well minus me that is. :-[
Gosh Trav, so sorry to hear that. Ouch.
I wish I had posted something the first time you indicated you were still looking for her, esp if it was during act one. I just assumed that...guess I assumed wrong.
I suppose I should have looked it up, but it sounded to me like she only became available to all of you in act 2. I was starting to wonder, but I kept hoping...
So did you manage to beat that huge bug monster now?
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 1 APR 2011 at 9:56pm |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (1 APR 2011 9:05pm)
Originally Posted By Stiler (1 APR 2011 8:57pm)
I guess it's time to reload an earlier save lol, sucks that you have to either finish without her or replay some hours to do it.
"Some hours?" I'd have to go back to before Deep Roads, and I was at the Qunari gate for the final thingie of act 2 when I realised all of this.
It took me at least the last week to play through the Deep Roads and the entire act 2...
I guess I'll have to make the decision to go without her; :'( and all this time I kept hoping that I'll get her sometime, somewhere in act 2... [smiley=hair_pull.gif]
Well to put a positive spin on it her character is about one fo the most in-your-face sluts of any rpg. Basically throws herself at you all the time. She's the like polar opposite of Aveline.
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| 2 APR 2011 at 2:01am |
TechnoSpikePrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (31 MAR 2011 9:25am)
Hehe, although quite funny, I do think that no 1 is a gross overstatement of how thinks really work. The player has to romance the character - I mean, there is a clear large glowing heart next to the "romantic" (some quite cringeworthy) responses.
Perhaps the problem lies with the fact that some of the straight male gamers (certainly not all of them) do not know that a heart indicates romance? :
From what I saw in the text description the author made, aparently he "fell" in a situation in which, for not wanting to loose friendship points, he had to romance with Anders or else he would loose immediate 10-15 Rivalry points.... (whatever all of this means, ).
Originally Posted By placeholder (31 MAR 2011 9:25am)
As to the second comic - that is indeed a good one. Still giggling about that one, actually.
Glad you liked it, although not playing any of the games and not having much experience with RPGs in general, I think this comics nails spot on some problems with the whole "grinding" for upgrading yourself through experience points.
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| 2 APR 2011 at 7:42am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Stiler (1 APR 2011 9:56pm)
Well to put a positive spin on it her character is about one fo the most in-your-face sluts of any rpg. Basically throws herself at you all the time. She's the like polar opposite of Aveline.
Ok, thanks, but the thing is that I would have liked to fight as her.
Atm, I take possession of whatever tank I have, so as to let him/her run in front during non-combat, and deal as much damage as I can during fights with that character. From what I've seen with Isabella, she does some cool leaps and moves, and I really think it would have been fun to fight as her.
Posted by: TechnoSpike Posted on: Yesterday at 10:00pm
From what I saw in the text description the author made, aparently he "fell" in a situation in which, for not wanting to loose friendship points, he had to romance with Anders or else he would loose immediate 10-15 Rivalry points.... (whatever all of this means, )
Hi Techno. Yes, I realise that this is what the author is implying, but he's talking a bit of rot there. Nowehere does one lose friendship points for not clicking on the "heart" (romance ) option.
You can do a friendly response, a sarcastic response (I often go for those) or an agressive response, and if the character is romanceable, you often get to choose a romantic response as well, (which is clearly marked as romance with a heart icon) and which is usually something like: "'Ooh, you can always shack up at my place if you like - I'll keep you safe." or: "Ooh you're too cute/sweet for this or that"
Why a straight male would feel he needs to say things like that to another male just to keep a friendship, beats me. It somehow makes one wonder if anything a guy like that says to us girls is ever sincere...
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 2 APR 2011 at 4:21pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Ok, I've played a bit with Isabella. ..and you're right, Stiler - her slutty remarks eventually just get so over the top that it's almost beyond cariciature and one just can't stomach it anymore.
So, I'm not sad not having her anymore..
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 2 APR 2011 at 6:30pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (31 MAR 2011 7:39pm)
I sometimes find it annoying how much party members seem to dislike each other and still function as a cohesive group. They really should have included a gag option IMO. The one exception being Varric and Daisy (should have paid more attention as to how that started referring to Merril) but at least they do seem to get along in an acceptable borderline friendly manner which gives them priority treatment.
Well, I've found the following ones good: Varric/Daisy, Isabel/ Kitten, Varric/Anders.
I must say I really love the chemistry between Varric and Merril. She actually seems to bring out the best in him.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 2 APR 2011 at 8:36pm |
| Deleted User | I haven't played all that much with Isabella lately but now it’s only fair to give Varric a rest and give her another chance. So, as for Kitty I assume that is someone's nickname, right?
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| 2 APR 2011 at 8:43pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (2 APR 2011 8:35pm)
I haven't played all that much with Isabella lately but now it’s only fair to give Varric a rest and give her another chance. So, as for Kitty I assume that is someone's nickname, right?
Yip, it's Isabel's name for Merril. The 2 of them seem quite fond of one another...
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 2 APR 2011 at 8:54pm |
| Deleted User | Funny as hell.
Isabella explains to Merril that it is procedure to let lonely men wait even longer.
Merill thinks that is so sad since the men are already lonely enough.
Isabella sighs, "oh Merrill" :
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| 2 APR 2011 at 9:09pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | If you really don't want to hear unpleasant stuff- just keep Isabella and Aveline apart...
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 3 APR 2011 at 1:26am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Hmm, I might have to switch my party around then. Merril and Isabella sounds like fun.
Varric/Aveline are my favorites but banter amongst my main gorup (them + anders) just isn't that all great.
Gonna try it will all females, Aveline/Merril/Isabella, hopefully no cat fights.
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| 3 APR 2011 at 2:17pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I seem to be stuck in battle with the pride demon on Sundermount in the quest "A new path'.
It's health is used up, but it is simply not dying, -no matter what I throw at it. My potions are almost all used up. Is there a special trick to this B***st* ?
Must have been a bug.. I reloaded and now it went ok.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 3 APR 2011 at 7:13pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | All I can say, is that I feel cheated, cheated cheated cheated. Not only do I want my money back, I want the time back that I wasted on this piece of rubbish! [smiley=furious.gif]
I sincerely hope Laidlaw gets fired before any new Bioware games get made. Maybe it's not him, maybe it's EA.. I swear I will never buy an EA game again! [smiley=furious.gif]
That was the most atrocious ending to any game I had ever witnessed. :'(
...and what the heck happened to the so-called story?
Ugh, all I can say is that I feel disgust that they charge people money for this utter rubbish. [smiley=eww.gif]
This is the worst disappointment I've ever felt after completing any game.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 3 APR 2011 at 7:35pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | wow... is it that bad?
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 3 APR 2011 at 8:09pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Inesrocks (3 APR 2011 7:35pm)
wow... is it that bad?
Maybe it would be a bit less bad to people who had not chosen to play as a mage, but to me it was bad - no matter which way you look at it.
..and please don't be tempted to read the spoiler thread I made - it will completely spoil a very surprising twist (one which I found completely nonsensical).
I ranted and raved in that thread, because I needed some closure, but I warn you again - please don't read it until you are finished with the game.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 4 APR 2011 at 2:23pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | damn it... i'm a mage... :-/
but anyway, it cant be worse than the end of DA where because I was an elf I couldnt stay with Allistair... lol
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 4 APR 2011 at 4:19pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Inesrocks (4 APR 2011 2:23pm)
damn it... i'm a mage... :-/
but anyway, it cant be worse than the end of DA where because I was an elf I couldnt stay with Allistair... lol
Ines, I'll not say a word further for now, but I'd be very interested to get your opinion once you have finished.
Just for interests' sake, so who did you settle on as a love interest in the end?
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 4 APR 2011 at 9:09pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (4 APR 2011 4:19pm)
Originally Posted By Inesrocks (4 APR 2011 2:23pm)
damn it... i'm a mage... :-/
but anyway, it cant be worse than the end of DA where because I was an elf I couldnt stay with Allistair... lol
Ines, I'll not say a word further for now, but I'd be very interested to get your opinion once you have finished.
Just for interests' sake, so who did you settle on as a love interest in the end?
Anders...
and now i'm getting this sad feeling I made all the wrong choices... again :'(
gaming is not supposed to be depressing!! ahhhhhhhh :-[
well, i'll press on with the game just for curiousity sake, I really want to know why you're so dissapointed!
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 4 APR 2011 at 9:29pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Yes, you can't stop now, Ines. You have to see it to the end...
Anyway, if you do turn out to be sad/disappointed, you have my shoulder to cry on!
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 5 APR 2011 at 6:19pm |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Hmm, Bioware just sent me a free code for Mass Effect 2 for buying Dragon age 2, anyone else get one?
Check your email for the EA account you registered the game with.
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| 5 APR 2011 at 8:35pm |
| Deleted User | Politics politics and more politics. Sigh. :-/
Hmm, perhaps not having Isabella included might not have been all that important but since it has been brought up it now forces me to think how the story was altered. I would presume the heart of it comes down to the consequences related to her stolen relic, if and how.
I’d imagine this particular ugly situation would have had to have been integrated differently:
Spoiler Alert[img]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb35/Camaroboy1968/DA2_10.jpg?t=1302033974[/img]
Perhaps this as well:
Spoiler AlertThe Champion Killed the Arishok in single combat? It just sounds so…romantic.
Perhaps I will research this later on.
Wondering now if I’ll be able to squeeze out another twenty-eight hours. Probably so.
Anyhow, regardless of how all ends I’ll deal with myself.
@Stiler
That would be if you have both games? Otherwise no. (checked both my email and Bioware account)
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