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| 25 NOV 2010 at 9:19pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Did it work before you used the patch?
What Java plug-in are you talking about? A plug-in for a web browser won't affect a game unless it's a game that plays inside your web browser.
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| 26 NOV 2010 at 12:02am |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Jenny100 (25 NOV 2010 9:19pm)
Did it work before you used the patch?
It crashed before patch.
Originally Posted By Jenny100 (25 NOV 2010 9:19pm)
What Java plug-in are you talking about? A plug-in for a web browser won't affect a game unless it's a game that plays inside your web browser.
don't really know. didn't pay much attention to it. thought all java plugins were alike.
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| 26 NOV 2010 at 2:52am |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | There is an Alter Ego online life simulation browser game that uses Java.
http://www.playalterego.com/
Is that what you're playing? It's not the adventure game that uses Java.
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| 26 NOV 2010 at 3:24am |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Jenny100 (26 NOV 2010 2:51am)
There is an Alter Ego online life simulation browser game that uses Java.
http://www.playalterego.com/
nope. didn't know this existed.
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| 26 NOV 2010 at 7:18am |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Well, I don't think installing Java would hurt anything, even if it doesn't help with this particular game.
I forget what type of video card you have in the Practice PC, but the Alter Ego requirements I've seen say it needs "Video Card : 128 MB VRAM – NVIDIA Geforce 6600 / ATI Radeon 9600 or better."
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| 26 NOV 2010 at 8:15am |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Jenny100 (26 NOV 2010 7:18am)
I forget what type of video card you have in the Practice PC, but the Alter Ego requirements I've seen say it needs "Video Card : 128 MB VRAM – NVIDIA Geforce 6600 / ATI Radeon 9600 or better."
Since I couldn't get the apps for visual basic (Visual Studio Express) d/l on the Practice PC as I don't have the network/wifi card, I installed VB on my Dell Dimension (will install game on the morrow), FYI the Dell has a NVidia GeForce 64 MB DDR GeForce3 Ti 200 with the updated driver that you (or Inland) found for me back in July/Aug of this year.
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| 26 NOV 2010 at 5:22pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | According to the system requirements, the Geforce 3 is a few generations too old to run the game. That may be the source of your memory errors. I'm not sure why you're installing Visual Basic on your computer unless you want to practice programming with it.
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| 26 NOV 2010 at 9:58pm |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | No worries, Jenny - I'll just wait until after I build my new PC and then tinker with the game then. If the exception code still occurs from the game in my new PC, I'll use Visual C++ (or Visual Basic/Visual C#) Express which I d/l free from MS, to debug the exception codes. Plus, I've just gained an understanding of what an exception code is.
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| 27 NOV 2010 at 5:54am |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | It will probably work on a new computer.
And if it doesn't, it will be because of SecuROM and not the lack of an adequate video card.
Keep in mind that SecuROM blacklists debugging software.
That means it will block the game from playing if it detects debugging software on your hard drive, including some of the Sysinternals utilities from Microsoft. Never mind that the specific debugging software that is used to crack game copy "protection" is updated regularly to avoid being blacklisted -- and that it's the legitimate debugging software used to troubleshoot progams that gets blacklisted.
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| 7 DEC 2010 at 11:41pm |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | To Inland - now that you have the game, are you going to use MS Visual Basic, etc. Express to troubleshoot the rundev.exe exception codes or use some other method of troubleshooting the exception codes - if so, what software/what method will/are you using?
I'd like to know so I can also troubleshoot exception codes in either Alter Ego or other PC games that may also come with SecuRom built into them, in the event that I might be of help to someone in the future - and also to experience the joy of being able to solve game problems like this on my own as I gain experience tinkering with games and computers.
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| 8 DEC 2010 at 12:44am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I installed the game last night and played for about an hour - no errors what so ever.
Windows 7 Ultimate -
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| 8 DEC 2010 at 3:58am |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | What are your hardware specs, Inland?
And Jenny100 - what are your hardware specs (as of Aug. 2010 when you couldn't get the game to play)?
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| 8 DEC 2010 at 6:09am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | It's a several years old Sony Laptop -
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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/7/2010, 23:06:44
Machine name: INLAND
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
System Model: VGN-AR190G
BIOS: Phoenix NoteBIOS 4.0 Release 6.1
Processor: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 1600MB used, 2492MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce Go 7600 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&EV_0399&SUBSYS_81FD104D&REV_A1
Display Memory: 1016 MB
Dedicated Memory: 248 MB
Shared Memory: 767 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: Nvidia Defaul
Monitor Id: NVD0900
Native Mode: 1920 x 1200(p) (60.061Hz)
Output Type: Internal
Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0011.9805 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.11.9805
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Model: WDDM 1.0
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/3/2010 23:45:56, 9399912 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {7B71E3E-40D9-11CF-B055-F6A11FC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0399
SubSys ID: 0x81FD104D
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem46.inf:NVIDIA_SetB_Devices.NTx86.6.0:Section003:8.17.11.9805ci\ven_10de&dev_0399
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| 8 DEC 2010 at 6:46pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Mine is an old Dell Dimension 8400 with Windows XP
Pentium IV @ 3.2 GHz
3 GB system RAM
ATI Radeon X800SE video card (Dell version) with 128 MB video RAM
SB Live 5.1 (Dell version)
Samsung DVD SD-616E
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