| 6 NOV 2011 at 4:37am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Trav, that is a mouse clicky QTE, where you have to fill up a bar. If you don't, it fails. Are you doing everything right?
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| 6 NOV 2011 at 5:33am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Strangely I could never see an indication of that, but a 'net search said something about clicking fast, so I just experimented and got through it blindly. Thanks! I'm now.. - ugh how incredibly irritating that we don't have spioler tags anymore. How can i tell you without spoilers... -ok, I just finished a certain tryst involving roses, and I'm on way into the forest with a certain dwarf , and I'm about to have a big fight with a creature.
How's that for avoiding spoilers?
What'r you playing atm, Dona?
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 6 NOV 2011 at 7:18am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Strange. Maybe the game got bugged and the QTE button didn't show. Hmm. Anyway, glad you managed to do it Oh, so you're going to meet the love of my life someone awesome? I love that part. What I like even more is to save, reload and pick options to piss them off. Ahhh. Memories.
Maybe we should bring back TW2 spoilers thread? That would make things easier :>
I'm on my third run of Vampire Bloodlines. Sigh, I know. Banning myself from TW2 until Xbox update comes out next year. I just watched someone livestream TW1 and TW2 and I feel truly 'done' with the game until then
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| 6 NOV 2011 at 11:32am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Ah, ok, don't know if you still want to chat about TW 2 then, but of course we could post in the spiler thread rather, silly me. I'll post in there from now on. I'll quickly go resurrect it, I think the staff did bring it over to the new forum.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 6 NOV 2011 at 11:55am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Oh, I love talking about TW2! No worris there. I just feel a bit burned out playing it
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| 7 NOV 2011 at 1:17pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Noooooo!!! I can't believe this happened!! Why don't they put Spoiler Alerttroll's tongue as an ingredient in the "quest" items so you can't use it up while brewing potions? *cry* I wasn't checking which ingredients were going in, since i have tons of herbs, and you'd expect the game to "choose" the most numerous and less valuable to go into the mix.
Since our new spoler tags don't seem to work yet (I'll test then again now) I'll post something for you in the spoiler thread, Dona.
But i want to put a WARNING here to all people playing this.... WATCH carefully what goes into your alchemy mixes, lest you lose valuable ingredients of which some are once-off items.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 7 NOV 2011 at 4:19pm |
markornikovJourneyman
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Status : Offline |  i lost that item too somewhere, oh well i'm putting tw2 on hold for a while.
I'm near the end of chapter 2 but i'm no longer that interested in knowing the rest of the story 
So i'll be putting the witcher on hold for the time being
I haven't got much free time left before 11.11.11 anyway
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| 7 NOV 2011 at 11:39pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov
i lost that item too somewhere, oh well i'm putting tw2 on hold for a while.
I'm near the end of chapter 2 but i'm no longer that interested in knowing the rest of the story
So i'll be putting the witcher on hold for the time being
I haven't got much free time left before 11.11.11 anyway
Marko, is this only your first playthrough? It's my second playthrough, and I'm still discovering plenty of new stuff. The structure of the game really is pretty non-linear, there's so many combinations of choices with different outcomes; yet when you look at the final product, you see how it all fits together. Very well done. I'm just a bit cross that nobody warned me to watch my ingredients...
For instance; Spoiler AlertIf you give Ioverth his sword, during the Letho confrontation there is a sad outcome, but if you help Roche, there's a happy outcome to that particular scenario
Not sure if you're past that point yet?  Doh, of course you are, I keep getting mixed up and thinking Act 1 is Act 2 because of the Prologue being rather long..
Spoiler AlertEnter the spoiler text you want to hide So nice to have spoiler tags, thanks staff! 
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 8 NOV 2011 at 12:00pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Markonikov, did you chooseSpoiler AlertIoverth or Roche?
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 8 NOV 2011 at 1:37pm |
markornikovJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I chose Spoiler AlertRoche, and i don't count the prologue as a chapter.
The beginning of chapter 2 was kinda boring, but once i got to Spoiler AlertVergen City the storyline became much more compelling
Is there a way to save Spoiler AlertCedric?, it was one the most dramatic scenes i've seen in a computer game 
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| 8 NOV 2011 at 1:48pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Being a girl, i can admit to almost crying - ok, i had to swallow quite a few times, Spoiler Alertwhen Cedric went...-no, it seems to be scripted that he gives his life..
Spoiler AlertAh, ok, maybe Roche's side is not as nice as ioverth's side, then. I really enjoyed my playthrough on Ioverth's side...- but don't tell me anything yet, I've just finished up with chapter one, and am now Spoiler AlertHenselt!  Heheh - feels weird.. but I know it's only for a short while.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 9 NOV 2011 at 8:48am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Roche's path is really boring until the very end of Act 2 (save it for a couple of nice side-quests). Then things pick up again. At least in my opinion
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| 9 NOV 2011 at 10:13am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Oh, i forgot to tell you in the other thread, Dona, that i'll only be able to play again tomorrow; but i'll definitely post there about my impressions regarding Act 2 by tomorrow evening.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 12:01am |
walshSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | So I'm going to put Skyrim to rest for a while, and The Witcher series looks like a good replacement. Is it necessary (or better) to start with the first one, or should I skip straight to the second? I've heard the second is better.
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 2:16am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I personally much prefer the first one. ...but besides that, storywise it would also be a good idea to start with the first one, since they do follow one another chronologically.
You might dislike the timed combat sequnces at first, but believe me, one pretty quicly acquires the knack of it; and once you have, it becomes pretty fun, especially as your attacks gain complexity as you level up. In W1, you need click only once to initiate about 4 follow-up combo-moves automatically once you reach your higher sowrdsmanship levels. You sadly don't have the same fun and complexity of leveled combos in Witcher 2, it's just a wild, button-mashing click-fest. Witcher 1 also has a deeper alchemy and magic system, along with the interesting swordsmanship choices (Group style, strong style, fast style, etc. )
Witcher 2 still has the strong/fast distincion, but I frankly found it easier to just mash my LMB-RMb as fast as possible as the most effective methid of combat in W2.
You might not want to start out on hardest difficulty on your first try, since the combat is easier to grasp if you can see a flaming sword which indicates the right moment for you to click.
Besides the better combat, alchemy, etc, of Witcher 1, Witcher 1 also has a deeper, more interesting and complex storyline. It's like Witcher 1 is more your thinking man..person's game, whereas W2 is more actiony and (I thought) rather more bloodthirsty and full of buttonmashing combat. W2 also has a lot of mazes to get lost in to take up gameplay time, but I hate my time being wasted with navigating through maze-like areas, and you never had anything like that in Witcher 1. Witcher 2 also has a lot more QTE -type action than W1.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 4:30am |
walshSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Witcher 1 it is then! Luckily GOG has it for $9.99, so I was secretly hoping that would be the answer, considering Witcher 2 is $30 more
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 4:46am |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Just two small warnings about The Witcher 1:
First of, the game is a rather slow starter, so give it some time.
Also, the swamp part is slow, don't give up during that one.
Apart from that, The Witcher is a terrific game, well worth your time & money. The books are not bad either.
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 5:50am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Fnord is right. The tutorial part, which takes part in an old castle- Kaer Morhen, is quite a bit of a drag, but hey, so are most tutorials. At least you don't have to find your way out of a prison/dungeon in this one. Just give yourself a chance to get used to the combat, magic, alchemy and meditation, and if you're like me, you'll soon start enjoying it. I must confess though, that I am a compulsive plant-picker and potion brewer in RPG's. I'm even doing it in Skyrim.
I actually enjoyed the swamps again. I spent a lot of time there, having fun luring out Bloedzuigers and spamming them with fire, and quickly jumping out of the way when they explode is a rain of acid. Even more fun if other monsters were trotting along as well, and they get burnt with the acid. Wheee! Gosh I can be evil sometimes...
No, I found the town aspect of chapter 3 a bit of a drag again, because i wanted a bit of a change of scenery from being in a city by that time; but chapter 4 certainly provides that...
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 8:42am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By walsh
Witcher 1 it is then! Luckily GOG has it for $9.99, so I was secretly hoping that would be the answer, considering Witcher 2 is $30 more
WAIT!
GoG is going to have a Holiday sale in a few days and The Witcher 2 will be $23 and you get The Witcher 1 FREE with purchase.
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 10:05am |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Dona
Originally Posted By walsh
Witcher 1 it is then! Luckily GOG has it for $9.99, so I was secretly hoping that would be the answer, considering Witcher 2 is $30 more
WAIT!
GoG is going to have a Holiday sale in a few days and The Witcher 2 will be $23 and you get The Witcher 1 FREE with purchase.
In before me. I was about to come and tell you to wait until Thursday, and you can get 2 for the price of 1. http://www.gog.com/en/news/gog_com_s_holiday_celebrations_are_almost_here
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 11:01am |
CBPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Traveller
Fnord is right. The tutorial part, which takes part in an old castle- Kaer Morhen, is quite a bit of a drag, but hey, so are most tutorials. At least you don't have to find your way out of a prison/dungeon in this one. Just give yourself a chance to get used to the combat, magic, alchemy and meditation, and if you're like me, you'll soon start enjoying it. I must confess though, that I am a compulsive plant-picker and potion brewer in RPG's. I'm even doing it in Skyrim.
I actually enjoyed the swamps again. I spent a lot of time there, having fun luring out Bloedzuigers and spamming them with fire, and quickly jumping out of the way when they explode is a rain of acid. Even more fun if other monsters were trotting along as well, and they get burnt with the acid. Wheee! Gosh I can be evil sometimes...
No, I found the town aspect of chapter 3 a bit of a drag again, because i wanted a bit of a change of scenery from being in a city by that time; but chapter 4 certainly provides that...
I am pleased that you are able to recall some of the various or perhaps less obvious 'tactics' which could be utilized there. 
As sadly, I just discovered myself, the old Witcher threads are gone. 
Give a man a fish: He will eat for a day.
Give a man a rod: He will sit on a boat and drink beer all day. - USA Network
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| 6 DEC 2011 at 1:55pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Dayum, they messed up this forum! I thought they managed to salvage those for us..
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 8 DEC 2011 at 4:09am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Wel, the save is live and will last 48 hours, so go grab it! http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/the_witcher_2
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| 27 JAN 2012 at 8:52am |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Enhanced Edition coming on April 17. For Xbox and PC.
There was a livestream conference yesterday and holy crap. They actually finished the game now, Act 3 looks amazing and they added 4 hours of gameplay to it, new characters and missions. Ffffff-
I've been Witcher-fasting since November and I'm trying not to read too much about new content nor watch the videos (they released the new CGI intro). AH. ALL MY WILLPOWER. But it's going to be worth it :')
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