| 23 NOV 2010 at 1:34pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Online | If I was going to get it via download, I would definitely go the GOG way. I've just purchased RealMyst from them and was impressed that the purchasing transaction took literally 3 seconds to complete and get me to the download screen. I purchase a lot of goodies online, and that's faster and more hassle-free than from any store I usually buy from!
However, like CB, my bandwidth would be a tad too slow to comfortably download such a large file in under a week... - I suppose I could let the download run for a week, but... :-/
Hmm, let me download PST that I also purchased from them, and see how long that takes me. The 500MB RealMyst download from them took about 5 hours, so if I'm getting 1 Gig per 10 hours, perhaps not all that bad... :
Oh, but I really want a nice box and goodies! I'll rather start saving up for that now..
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 23 NOV 2010 at 2:45pm |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Yes, it sucks they are leaving out the finishing moves and outfits. They are only reinforcing piracy :/
I don't mind downloading files, but this one seems like such a hassle. You get a bunch of digital stuff (manual, artbook, papercraft etc.) but what are you going to do with it? Printing costs money so one may as well splurge on boxed version.
On top of that, Steam games get buggy sometimes and you have to re-download/verify the games again and it always takes so damn long if the game is big :C
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| 23 NOV 2010 at 4:17pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Sadly, the CE seems to be around 3x the price of the regular edition! ...or was that just at the particular store where I checked out prices?
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 23 NOV 2010 at 4:27pm |
| Deleted User | 2.75X by my calculations.
Personally I suspect that the whole pre-order thingie is no more than a sales gimmick/marketing tool, and no surprise that this time around CD Projekt is jumping on the bandwagon. For instance:
Special Pre-Order Upgrade Offer
For a limited time, pre-order Dragon Age 2 and receive a free upgrade to Dragon Age 2 - Bioware Signature Edition, which contains the full version of Dragon Age 2 plus download codes for a bonus mission and character, a downloadable game soundtrack, an exclusive in-game digital armory featuring multiple weapons, as well as additional downloadable items. Offer ends 1/11/2011.
I’m guessing that you’ll probably get something if not this in the box even if you just sit back and wait for the game to be released.
Anyhow, I’m sure there must be some correlation between the number of pre-orders placed and total sales of the product. If I was the developer’s marketing manager, this is a bit of information that I would like to have in my hands as might have some impact on the final quality and polish of the game. Your right that everyone who places good money for the game really should get everything without paying more, but who knows what surprises will appear on-line when it is released. 8-)
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| 23 NOV 2010 at 6:27pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Zanderat (22 NOV 2010 3:48am)
Originally Posted By Masher (20 NOV 2010 5:52pm)
Not sure which version I'll be getting yet. Steam also has it for pre-order at the same price as GOG, so just might get it there. Steam lists the system requirements as:
OS: Windows XP/Vista/7
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or similar AMD
Memory: 1 GB for Win XP / 2 GB for Win Vista
Graphics: Nvidia GF 8800 512 VR or similar ATI
DirectX®:
Hard Drive: 8GB for game and 8GB bonus content
Sound:
Though these requirements are not that steep, I'm still going to have to upgrade. I'm really looking forward to this game. Happy Gaming.
Why would you order the STEAM version? The GOG version is cheaper and is DRM free.
I guess for no other reason than I've been using them for about a year w/o any problems. For me, the ordering and downloads are quick (though I do backup to disk after the initial download) and just like them in general. Happy Gaming.
Edit: Forgot to add that I may still get the boxed version, just not sure yet which way I'm going to go. Will probably be a last minute decision.
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| 23 NOV 2010 at 7:36pm |
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Status : Offline | If there's a cool CE version of a game I Must Have I'll get the boxed version when it's released.
If it's a standard version of a game I Must Have I'll buy it off of Steam when it's released.
Otherwise, I hold off and wait for a price drop, and buy it from wherever I can find it cheapest: brick n' mortar, Steam, GoG, D2D or GamersGate.
For most games (minus CE versions) I prefer Steam. I have nearly 100 games on it, and with the deals they have weekly, there's nearly always something I want...
GoG rules for the older stuff though (kinda goes without saying, I guess).
Back on topic: If I can swing it, I'll be getting the CE of The Witcher 2. If it's as good or better than the first then it'll be worth it... plus, come on now - you get Geralt's head!
Playing: Skyrim: Dragonborn/Dawnguard; Torchlight 2; To The Moon; Far Cry 3
Finished: HomeFront; Far Cry 3; Dishonored
Always Playing: Half Life 2
Looking Forward To: BioShock: Infinite
Reading: BioShock: Rapture; SW: Revan
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| 24 NOV 2010 at 8:12am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Yeah, honestly want that CE version with the Geralt bust, but 130 bucks is a bit steep imo.
I could see 89.99'ish or so (Blizzard Ce's are only 79.99) but yeah.
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| 11 MAR 2011 at 10:27am |
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Status : Online | Hmm, not sure at which time to start a proper thread for the game itself, I suppose we can still wait a wee bit until it's closer to release time. In the meantime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y&feature=player_embedded
The UI seems to have changed a bit, along with Geralt's hairstyle, huh?
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 11 MAR 2011 at 1:42pm |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | That looks fab, I bet the final version is going to be even better.
Time to start The Witcher replay, y/n?
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| 11 MAR 2011 at 2:06pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Well, actually... I'm busy with Two Worlds 2, and I might just give in and get Dragon Age 2 after all this weekend.. :-[
I'll finish my replay of The Witcher once i'm done with those - still about 2 months until release.
Anyway, here's a whole page full of trailers and Witchery things.
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/the-witcher-2-assassins-of/12906
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 12 MAR 2011 at 5:57pm |
DonaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Oh, sweet! I'll skip the videos for now, though, I don't want to spoil it too much for myself. I hope the second game is even closer to the books, I read the two 'prequels' and both are soooo good. I hope they translate the entire Witcher saga soon ;A;
*runs off to find game discs*
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| 12 MAR 2011 at 6:44pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Donna (12 MAR 2011 5:57pm)
I hope they translate the entire Witcher saga soon ;A;
I can certainly agree with that sentiment! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I should really get to read Blood of Elves - I just started it, and then got distracted.. :-[
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 15 MAR 2011 at 6:49pm |
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Status : Offline | Well this pisses me off:
http://www.gog.com/en/news/the_witcher_2_assassins_of_kings_digital_premium_edition_to_be_drm_free_only_on
I love how they are trying to sugarcoat this and put a positive PR spin on it.
Up until now Cd Projekt said the game would be DRM free. On Direct2Drive and other sites it had a "RM free" sticker on it so you knew it was that way (along with a no refunds policy on D2D).
Now doing an about face and throwing DRM onto the game everywhere except gog, just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and seriously makes me want to cancel out of principal. These guys have used the anti DRM bandwagon to get positive press and fans, now they do this.
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| 15 MAR 2011 at 7:24pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Hold on, Stiler - DRM is usually a publisher's decision, and they are saying that the version they publish will still be DRM free. Surely you cannot expect them to somehow override other publishers wishes?
Why are you so upset about this - did you already order it elsewhere?
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 15 MAR 2011 at 8:25pm |
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Status : Offline | D2D and many other retailers had it listed as DRM free, complete with a huge sticker on the product page stating it. Cd Projekt stated it would be DRM free, not simply on gog but other places.
On top of this they had a "no refunds" for it because of that.
So on the 20% sale months ago I bought it on there on the fact I wouldn't have to go through Securom/tages or any of that crap and the game would be DRM free.
Now I'm just hoping my refund request isn't denied since it's been changed.
This was labeled DRM free for months, to do so they surely had to know through their publisher beforehand what it was? I mean obviously their publisher had to set it all up for that market, the advertising, retailer information, etc. So why would the publisher list it as DRM free on various sites and suddenly change their mind? Makes no sense.
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| 15 MAR 2011 at 8:29pm |
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Status : Online | If the 'site' or "portal" or whatever had it listed as DRM free, I agree that it's pretty bad form if those sites or portals now suddenly went and changed it. I doubt very much that CD-projekt had a say in it though.
Keep in mind that EA pulled a similar trick with DRM with Dragon Age 2, and you still bought DA2.
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 15 MAR 2011 at 8:45pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (15 MAR 2011 8:29pm)
If the 'site' or "portal" or whatever had it listed as DRM free, I agree that it's pretty bad form if those sites or portals now suddenly went and changed it. I doubt very much that CD-projekt had a say in it though.
Keep in mind that EA pulled a similar trick with DRM with Dragon Age 2, and you still bought DA2.
The sites had to get the DRM free from somewhere, either the publisher or Cd Projekt told them it was DRM free. Since this press release D2D and other sites have pulled the "rm free" sticker and label from the pages.
Regarding Dragon age 2, yep it was a dirty tactic. They said the game wouldn't use Securom. I bought the game via D2D as well. The game uses what they say is a "Similar" system and base code from Securom, but does basically the same thing, just a different name from them.
Had I known would I have still bought it? Probably, cause I got it on sale and expected to enjoy it (which I am, to a lesser extent then DA mind you).
It's not like I have to have games DRM free, I'd prefer that any day over DRM and I think no drm can sell just as well as games with drm. However for me with this, it's the principal of buying something that says it's one thing but turns out to be another, the ole bait and switch.
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| 16 MAR 2011 at 12:11am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By placeholder (15 MAR 2011 8:29pm)
Keep in mind that EA pulled a similar trick with DRM with Dragon Age 2, and you still bought DA2.
Sorry, I'm just a little curious as to what DRM was used with DA2. Does this only appy to download versions of the game?
I bought the discounted standard version of the game. Nothing on the case insert other then that I needed to be connected to the internet to receive bonuses/features/services. Don’t need to be connected to play the game though.
Installation only required me to type in my registration code, SOP or so I assumed as I recall being logged into my EA account either prior to or during the process. I don’t even need to have the game disc inserted to play the game. How cool I thought thinking about all the trouble I’ve had with the rather annoying recurring Fallout 3 GOTY disc error telling me politely that I must insert the original disc and not a copy or else…see website...
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| 17 MAR 2011 at 6:55am |
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Status : Online | ..but, CB, had you not noticed that before you can start playing your DA2 every time you load it up, your 'resume' button only becomes enabled once their server has been contacted? ( I get a message on my screen: "contacting server" . )
Since this happens with me, I'm not sure why you don't need to be connected. Are you sure of this?
Anyway.. http://www.destructoid.com/ea-sneaks-securom-drm-onto-dragon-age-ii-disc-196185.phtml
and DA2 debacle
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 17 MAR 2011 at 2:58pm |
| Deleted User | I was just reading the above regarding DRM with DA2 and thought about previous discussions of DRM in other threads. I must say that for myself, I couldn't give a rats a** about DRM. If there is a good game that I'd like to play, I'll play it regardless of DRM. Life is too short to get hung up about such things. Think what you might be missing. I must clarify though that I usually don't replay a game, so DRM is much less of an issue. However, I still would not miss out due to principal. Happy Gaming.
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| 17 MAR 2011 at 3:16pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Online | I don't mind at all about non-intrusive DRM, but I do mind if it interferes with my other software, and I especially mind if it requires me to be online, since I have one of my gaming PC's far away from an internet connection, and not even a modem installed on it.
So, if it's a non-intrusive disc-check and/or security-code check, that is fine with me, although it is a minor irritation to keep swopping discs.
Still, that is preferable to the online requirement. I also have a very low monthly bandwidth allocation, so I don't appreciate my bandwidth being unneccessarily wasted.
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 17 MAR 2011 at 6:07pm |
| Deleted User | Getting back to DRM with DA2....Wow, I was totally unaware of this. I did refer to your links Trav, and sure enough the Securom app is there exactly where I was told to look. > No wonder there's such an uproar. I guess our friends at EA must think they are impervious to economic conditions. Time will tell.
Originally Posted By placeholder (17 MAR 2011 3:16pm)
So, if it's a non-intrusive disc-check and/or security-code check, that is fine with me, although it is a minor irritation to keep swopping discs.
Which is exactly what I thought would be the case with DA2.
Originally Posted By placeholder (17 MAR 2011 6:55am)
..but, CB, had you not noticed that before you can start playing your DA2 every time you load it up, your 'resume' button only becomes enabled once their server has been contacted? ( I get a message on my screen: "contacting server" . )
Since this happens with me, I'm not sure why you don't need to be connected. Are you sure of this?
Whoa, you mean to tell me that you have to be connected to start play?? If I start the game while connected to the internet I am automatically logged into the EA server. Call me paranoid, but I don’t like that so always go off-line beforehand. The screen that comes up is this:
[img]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb35/Camaroboy1968/DragonAge22011-03-1712-53-33-50.jpg?t=1300381940[/img]
Click OK.
I have a bad habit of saving my game on termination of play since I have a strange mistrust of ‘resume’, and thus automatically I choose ‘load game’. I did check to see if Resume was available and yes it loads just as easily.
Originally Posted By Masher (17 MAR 2011 2:58pm)
If there is a good game that I'd like to play, I'll play it regardless of DRM. Life is too short to get hung up about such things.
Thank you
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| 17 MAR 2011 at 6:16pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (17 MAR 2011 6:07pm)
I have a bad habit of saving my game on termination of play since I have a strange mistrust of ‘resume’, and thus automatically I choose ‘load game’. I did check to see if Resume was available and yes it loads just as easily.
Oh, that is good to know! Thanks for the heads-up CB!
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 24 MAR 2011 at 3:49pm |
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Status : Offline | D2D let me get a refund finally, gonna grab this on gog when it's out I suppose now.
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