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| 19 SEP 2010 at 2:29pm | |
FnordSchattenjger  Posts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | After having spent the last 2 days in a gaming convetion, playing board games & roleplaying games with random people from all over Swedes, I thought it would be interesting to know if anyone else here plays board games, and if so, what do you play? Some of my personal favourites are: Arkham horror [img]http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic597157_md.jpg[/img] A cooperative game where you & your fellow players need to stop the small town of arkham from being devoured by a great old one. It is nice to have a game where you need to work together to reach a common goal, rather than working against each other. The game can be incredibly tense, in particular when it looks like the great old one will wake up. Space hulk [img]http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic712264_md.jpg[/img] A tactical game heavily inspired by alien. Two players, one play as the marines (40k marines in terminator armour) and one play as genestealers (a form of tyranid). As far as tactical games goes, this is probably my favourite, as the rules are really simply but the game offers an incredible tactical depth. Once upon a time [img]http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic213589_md.jpg[/img] This is my favourite game to bring when there are people who either are very shy or claim that they don't like board games are present. It is a story telling game, and all that you are supposed to do is to tell a story with the help of the cards that you have. I've never seen anything that makes shy people so talkative as this game. I've also never met anyone who actually disliked this game. And a honorary mention goes to the friendship test Diplomacy [img]http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic442287_md.jpg[/img] Diplomacy is an incredibly elegant game. The rules are simple and easy to understand, there is very little luck involved in it and all players are involved in it at all time. The downside is that you need to play it with people who are very mature about loosing. I've seen more than a handful of people who actually got angry because of this game, and thus it is something that I only bring out when I play with people that I know are mature enough to handle it (which sadly is very few). After having played this game with people who were unable to play a game like this, I can understand why T-shirts like the one that this man wears are quite popular among boardgamers.
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 3:17pm | |
IviniaGuild Master  Posts : 4459 Joined: 7 JUN 2003 Location: US Status : Offline | Boardgamer here! Used to play tons of the old Avalon Hill wargames, now its the occasional game of Settlers of Cataan and any of the 10 Days games (10 Days in Europe, 10 Days in the US, etc.) The 10 Days games are excellent and easy to learn in about 2 minutes. For those that don't know about Diplomacy (Going by the original version here) , there are no dice to determine outcomes. Its all based on influence. If you have 2 armies in a region and I move 3 into it, I take over that region. The key here is joining forces with other players and making agreements. This is done by pulling players aside and having private conversations. Then when everyone is ready they make their moves on the board. Where is gets sticky is when you are expecting another player to assist you based on an agreement, but instead they had already worked out another secret agreement with someone else and you get screwed.
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 3:36pm | |
TravellerGuild Master Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US Status : Offline | |
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 4:13pm | |
FnordSchattenjgerPosts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | Diplomacy has not changed much (if at all) over the years. The first version of the game that I played was from the 70s, and my version (50th anniversary edition) are identical, as far as rules & map layout goes, so Ivinia's description is accurate. My version looks a bit nicer than the old one though Settlers is a great game, easy to learn but still offers a surprising amount of strategic depth. If you enjoy it, then you will probably also enjoy Carcassonne & Agricola, two other "eurogames". Here it might be a good idea to explain the term Eurogame to those who are unfamiliar. Eurogames are often quite light on rules, and they don't rely on a lot of dice rolling, instead you do actions based on what you have access to (like for an example in settlers you build buildings & roads based on the resources you have. Resources are generated with a die roll at the start of the turn, but apart from that you don't roll dice). They usually involve very little in the way of direct player interaction (you can't directly ruin your opponents plans by taking over his/her buildings), but your actions might be limited by what other players do (like if a player builds a house where you wanted to build it, or even worse, locks you in by building roads around your region). The PC game is sadly not very good. It might teach you the basics, but it is hard to strike deals with the AI. There are several free diplomacy programs out there, that allows you to play with other players (but no AI), and many also play diplomacy through mail.
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 5:21pm | |
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 6:01pm | |
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 7:35pm | |
FnordSchattenjgerPosts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | I got the chance to play Blue moons sister game, Blue moon city, during the convention, and it was quite fun. It was an incredibly easy game to get into, and even though we were 3 beginners and 1 experienced players, the simple rules meant that we beginners managed to fight on equal terms against the experienced player. Race for the galaxy is a really fun game. It is one of those games that, when the person who owns the game is with us, almost always play. While the owner of the game usually win, we still feel that we stand a chance. My boyfriend and I enjoyed a few games of San Juan before we figured out god-card strategies (we're both intensely competitive and have a habit of 'breaking' games due to coming up with one or two devious and near infallible strategies) and we haven't had the energy to come up with new 'rules' to make the godstrats redundant. My group as similar problems, and have had to house-rule a few games. And in some games house rules simply improve the game. In Illuminati we have a rule that if you promise something, you need to keep that promise for 1 turn, and 1 turn only, to avoid long term alliances & to make deals more attractive. It also encourages player interaction in a good way. Pandemic looks like a very interesting game. For a game with such a heavy theme, it is seem to be quite accessible. How hard is it to win in it? Personally I've been looking forward to playing Small world, Pandemic, Twilight imperium, Dominion, War of the ring (in particular the stunning collectors edition), Battlestar galactica & Dungeon lords. So many games *smiles*
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 7:35pm | |
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 8:18pm | |
AndromusGuild Master Posts : 5540 Joined: 6 NOV 2002 Status : Offline | I enjoy board games, but don't get to play them as much as I might like as it's a challenge rounding up people to play who have the time and interest. Scrabble is my all time favorite. And I'll try almost any trivia game. In the line of Eurogames, I just played my first game of Ticket To Ride. It reminded me of what I liked about Settlers of Catan. Very simple to learn, but was nevertheless a lot of fun. I have also sampled Arkham Horror, Small World, and Heroscape. Interesting concept in particular with Arkham Horror, but difficult to pick up on the first time around. You will almost certainly get some of the rules wrong the first few times. I've also enjoyed Chronology. Each player is given ten cards with a historical event on each one, and the players have to put them in chronological order.
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| 19 SEP 2010 at 11:49pm | |
CarolineJA+ Overseer  Posts : 16553 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU Status : Offline | |
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 2:01pm | |
FnordSchattenjgerPosts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | I have also sampled Arkham Horror, Small World, and Heroscape. Interesting concept in particular with Arkham Horror, but difficult to pick up on the first time around. You will almost certainly get some of the rules wrong the first few times. Indeed, but the rules in Arkham horror are at least very well written (which is common for fantasy flight games). AS for Heroscape, how is it? I've seen some spectacular maps being built, but it is hard to imagine that all those pieces come in the box. Is it a bit like a modern day HeroQuest but for a slightly older audience (HQ is really a rather simple & luck based game, but there is a lot of nostalgia involved for a lot of people, as they played it when they were younger).
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 7:19pm | |
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 7:54pm | |
FnordSchattenjgerPosts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | Why not give one of the games mentioned here a try? I'm sure that you will be able to find some people who are interested in giving it a shot. Or if you have any particular type of game in mind, I'm sure that we would be able to find something that fits the description.
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 9:34pm | |
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 10:21pm | |
AndromusGuild MasterPosts : 5540 Joined: 6 NOV 2002 Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (20 SEP 2010 2:01pm) Right, those really large maps require the expansions.
It's difficult for me to answer given my somewhat limited experience with these kinds of games. I enjoyed it, but I understand that it is on the whole simpler than most strategy games. Though it is flexible in this regard, offering a basic rule set for younger players, and a more advanced rule set for older ones.
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 10:33pm | |
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 11:08pm | |
FnordSchattenjgerPosts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | I've been planing to get a "dungeon" style board game for some time (money has been the issue, board games can be a bit expensive), and Heroscape is one of them so I'm trying to find out what people think of the different games of that type. Did it offer any tactical depth or was it simply a matter of dice rolling until the enemy dies? Now I'm really starting to regret not getting that LoTR game when I had the chance. I was at a gaming convention about 6 years ago, where they sold it for 100sek (about 10€), I really should have bought it...
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| 20 SEP 2010 at 11:56pm | |
AndromusGuild MasterPosts : 5540 Joined: 6 NOV 2002 Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (20 SEP 2010 11:07pm) There's a moderate amount of tactics, but more luck at dice rolling during combat, I'd say. There are modifiers depending on type of unit, range, etc, but basically the attacker wants skulls to turn up, and the defender shields.
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| 21 SEP 2010 at 12:10am | |
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| 21 SEP 2010 at 10:08am | |
FnordSchattenjgerPosts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | Now that is a retro box. Did they not release a box that looked like that during the late 80s/early 90s? I have played D& 4th edition, and yes, from the viewpoint of a tactical board game, it is quite good. The only drawback is that it is such an expensive game to start playing, as you need the 3 "starter" books (players guide, dungeon masters guide & at least one monster book), plus a tile set & a lot of models (nothing breaks the mood like an inappropriate model). As for Space crusade, my group tried it while we were waiting for space hulk to be released (my tabletop wargaming club owns a copy of it), but my group reacted less than favourably to the game. By the 2nd mission they were so bored that they started shooting each other in the back (I distinctly remember the same thing happening in the old PC game based on space hulk, back in 97 when I first played it).
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| 21 SEP 2010 at 12:28pm | |
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| 21 SEP 2010 at 1:30pm | |
FnordSchattenjgerPosts : 2759 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm Status : Offline | I remember playing D& (swedish translation) back in the days, using a book with the same cover art as that box, where you got 1 exp for each gold coin you managed to find. Never before have I seen a RPG where the game system itself openly encourages the players to be highway robbers As we already have a 4th edition set in my group I don't think I'll buy another starter set, as I can borrow it from him. The problem with going the D& approach is that it can be quite intimidating to people who are not familiar with RPGs. With a game like HeroQuest (and I guess most other tabletop dungeoncrawlers) you get your character handed to you, with little or no fuzz involved. One thing that I have been pondering is if it would be viable to turn Deathwatch into a tabletop dungeon crawler board game. Roleplaying a space marine does not sound very interesting, as you have a whole lot of limitations to take into consideration (a day in a space marines life usually consists of "pray, weapon maintenance, pray, training, pray, rest" or alternatively you can substitute training for fighting), but making a tactical game out of it would probably work quite well. And as we have 2 space marine players and 1 chaos space marine player in my RPG group (plus at least one person who owns an army of every other race), it would be a lot cheaper than buying a full board game. It does of course come with the same problem as using D& as a BG.
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| 22 SEP 2010 at 3:05pm | |
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| 22 SEP 2010 at 3:16pm | |
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