| 24 AUG 2010 at 12:53am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (23 AUG 2010 10:51pm)
Caveman times? eeewwww...... no body washing, no teethbrushing, fleas and lice, dreadlocks, walking barefoot everywhere.... no toilets, only being able to eat what you can catch and kill.
And when the sun went down, they huddled under their smelly dead animals skins and hoped no bigger animal would find them.
I doubt very much if the average caveperson had time to admire the peace and serenity of the landscape.
Well not caveman era, but like, pre-industrial farming/money era, where humans were top of the food chain but not civilized to the point they cared about money before enjoyment of their life and family, etc.
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| 24 AUG 2010 at 4:26am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Well not caveman era, but like, pre-industrial farming/money era, where humans were top of the food chain but not civilized to the point they cared about money before enjoyment of their life and family, etc.
Oh dear. I don't think any period in our history fits that criteria. Before industrialisation and the birth of consumerism which defines our modern era, there was religion and war, famine and plague to keep everyone occupied.
People died so easily of infections and the mortality rate for women in childbirth was nothing short of outrageous.
I'm afraid the reality is we live in the best times now. Never before in history has the average working person had so much control over his/her own life, nor such a long life-expectancy, nor so much easy access to food, health, education, travel and Art.
Please don't believe the media. Most people know exactly what's really important in life.
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| 26 AUG 2010 at 12:11am |
New WolfboySpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Speaking of movies, I finally got around to watching the new Star Trek movie, the franchise reboot one.
I'm also rather glad that I can touch-type, because I expect that after that movie shining reflected lights in my eyes for two hours, I may not be able to see clearly for several hours.
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| 26 AUG 2010 at 4:19am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | I really enjoyed that movie. I thought some of the fighting scenes moved a little fast for my middle-aged eyes to focus clearly on them, but overall I enjoyed the pace, the twist on the characters and well, the sheer Star Trekiness of the whole thing. Bring it on, I say. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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| 26 AUG 2010 at 6:28am |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Zanafarr (26 AUG 2010 12:11am)
Speaking of movies, I finally got around to watching the new Star Trek movie, the franchise reboot one.
I'm also rather glad that I can touch-type, because I expect that after that movie shining reflected lights in my eyes for two hours, I may not be able to see clearly for several hours.
You very nicely (and with the humour that seems to be your trademark) summed up my thoughts on that one, Wolfboy... - lots of flash and shine, lots of jumping, running and explosions..- did they crib off James Bond for this one? :
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| 26 AUG 2010 at 10:52am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Stop it the pair of you. Right now. Or I'll forbid you from seeing any more Star Trek movies. Let's have a bit of respect. [smiley=nono.gif]
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| 26 AUG 2010 at 11:00am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (26 AUG 2010 6:27am)
Originally Posted By Zanafarr (26 AUG 2010 12:11am)
Speaking of movies, I finally got around to watching the new Star Trek movie, the franchise reboot one.
I'm also rather glad that I can touch-type, because I expect that after that movie shining reflected lights in my eyes for two hours, I may not be able to see clearly for several hours.
You very nicely (and with the humour that seems to be your trademark) summed up my thoughts on that one, Wolfboy... - lots of flash and shine, lots of jumping, running and explosions..- did they crib off James Bond for this one? :
Yes, I thought I had stumbled into the wrong theater for awhile. Or I wanted to ask whoever was in charge "Sorry, I think you're showing the wrong film. I came to see Star Trek, but I really don't know what this is that you're showing instead."
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| 26 AUG 2010 at 9:14pm |
New WolfboySpace Cadet
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Status : Online | On the subject of movies which involve staring into bright lights, I can also remember Sunshine, and Pi. They're both excellent.
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| 26 AUG 2010 at 11:27pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Caroline adds Andromus to her list of disrespectful Star Trek watchers. [smiley=detective.gif]
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| 27 AUG 2010 at 3:23am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (26 AUG 2010 11:27pm)
Caroline adds Andromus to her list of disrespectful Star Trek watchers. [smiley=detective.gif]
Well, I wanted to like the film. Really, I did. It's been so long since they've produced any decent Star Trek TV show or movie, and so I had hoped this reboot would work. Sadly, no amount of mental jujutsu I could apply was going to save this film for me. I haven't tried so hard to like a film since the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie. (That failed, too.)
On the other hand, I just saw Inception tonight. Now that was a brilliant and really gripping film. Best film I've seen in a theater in a long time.
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| 27 AUG 2010 at 9:39am |
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Status : Offline | Looks like we enjoy different things in our movies Andromus. I thought Inception lacked drama and immersion and much preferred Matrix 1 to Inception.
The only thing I would have edited out of the Star Trek movie was the old Spock. However, from a writer's point of view, it has created a whole new alternative universe for them to write in, should they choose.
Edited to correct typo. Easy to see when Mark isn't around.
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| 27 AUG 2010 at 1:33pm |
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Status : Offline | I've not seen sunshine, but Pi was a great movie.
And as for the new star trek movie, I did not hate it, but the product placement ("I'll have a "list of alien sounding drinks" and a budweiser classic", or the close up of the nokia logo when Kirk was driving in that ancient car) really bugged me. It was not as bad as I-robot, but things like that can really kill the immersion.
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| 27 AUG 2010 at 7:56pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (27 AUG 2010 9:39am)
Star Trek
Quite some time ago (might have been years :-/ ) you recommended me to watch the Deep Space Nine series as I've enjoyed TNG and Voyager. Remember?
Well, afaik it hasn't been aired on any Swedish channel and probably never will, so I'm buying the series on DVD. Currently watching the fifth.
I really like it, keeping Odo and Quark closest to my heart. Such great characters with such a complicated friend/hate- relationship.
I'm having a bit of trouble relating to Kira though. It's as the writers never really knew what to make of her character.
The show is a lot more like a 'space soap' compared to the other S.T series I've watched. But I think that's what makes it special, getting to know the characters and their relationship deeper. It's still enough of the 'tech talk' and the aliens to fill my sci fi needs.
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| 27 AUG 2010 at 9:32pm |
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Status : Offline | I'll throw in an old classic that I revisited recently: All About Eve. Great movie with outstanding female acting--Bette Davis, Celeste Holm, Anne Baxter and even Marilyn Monroe.
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| 28 AUG 2010 at 9:35am |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Well, afaik it hasn't been aired on any Swedish channel and probably never will, so I'm buying the series on DVD. Currently watching the fifth. It was aired many many years ago, on TV3 (I think, it was at least on one of the basic channels). Much like voyager they never re-aired it though.
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| 28 AUG 2010 at 12:07pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (28 AUG 2010 9:35am)
Well, afaik it hasn't been aired on any Swedish channel and probably never will, so I'm buying the series on DVD. Currently watching the fifth. It was aired many many years ago, on TV3 (I think, it was at least on one of the basic channels). Much like voyager they never re-aired it though.
Really! It must have been before my interest in S.T began. Ah well, it's more convenient to have the series on DVD anyway. I tend to watch less TV each year.
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| 28 AUG 2010 at 3:31pm |
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By jelena (27 AUG 2010 7:56pm)
Quite some time ago (might have been years :-/ ) you recommended me to watch the Deep Space Nine series as I've enjoyed TNG and Voyager. Remember?
Ahh, DS9. Whenever I remember Voyager, I find myself thinking "Oh well. At least DS9 was good". Fantastic show, really one of my favorites.
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| 29 AUG 2010 at 2:39am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | The real joys of watching Star Trek - all of the series. Is owning the entire set on DVD and watching one per night. That way the continuity is there and the story arcs make sense and you really get to appreciate the writing and character development. Also, there are no adverts.
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| 29 AUG 2010 at 8:11am |
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That sounds like heaven. Watching a beloved futuroidic family deal with all the happinesses and travails of their well-adjusted missionaries, time-travelling forever gleaming...
Please proofread your posts carefully to see if you any words out.
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| 29 AUG 2010 at 8:52am |
JelenaPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (29 AUG 2010 2:39am)
The real joys of watching Star Trek - all of the series. Is owning the entire set on DVD and watching one per night. That way the continuity is there and the story arcs make sense and you really get to appreciate the writing and character development. Also, there are no adverts.
I treat myself to a Deep Space Nine episode every night.
And I try to (as often as possible) watch them while exercising on my stationary bicycle, conveniently placed close to the TV. It's a great way of combining something I need to do with something I enjoy. Sort of like a carrot in front of the donkey.
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| 29 AUG 2010 at 9:20am |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By jelena (29 AUG 2010 8:51am)
Originally Posted By Caroline (29 AUG 2010 2:39am)
The real joys of watching Star Trek - all of the series. Is owning the entire set on DVD and watching one per night. That way the continuity is there and the story arcs make sense and you really get to appreciate the writing and character development. Also, there are no adverts.
I treat myself to a Deep Space Nine episode every night.
And I try to (as often as possible) watch them while exercising on my stationary bicycle, conveniently placed close to the TV. It's a great way of combining something I need to do with something I enjoy. Sort of like a carrot in front of the donkey.
Oooh, sounds like something I should start doing! .. - except that I watch my occasional Star Trek (and other movies) on my PC which is on my desk surrounded by bookcases - no space for excercise machines, I'm afraid!
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| 29 AUG 2010 at 4:42pm |
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Status : Offline | I just saw The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I noticed that the book is really popular, so I thought I'd try out the movie. For some reason I thought it was science fiction, but instead it is a good puzzler. I really enjoyed it. I hear they are going to do a US remake.
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| 29 AUG 2010 at 6:17pm |
JelenaPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By colpet (29 AUG 2010 4:41pm)
I just saw The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I noticed that the book is really popular, so I thought I'd try out the movie. For some reason I thought it was science fiction, but instead it is a good puzzler. I really enjoyed it. I hear they are going to do a US remake.
Colpet. You really should read the Millennium trilogy. The movies are good, but the books are better imho.
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| 29 AUG 2010 at 10:03pm |
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Status : Offline | I finished reading The Girl Who Played with Fire at about 4:00 this morning, Jelena, and have made it into the first 40 pages of The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest. It's an excellent series, and it makes me sad that there won't be any more books by Larsson. I haven't seen the movie.
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