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27 NOV 2011 at 4:17am

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If what you guys think is true, then why didSpoiler Alert  Travis shackle himself? He didn't know that Dexter was going to speak to an old priest and make the connection with an old abandoned church and come and look for him, did he?   I see the merit in your theory, but in that case, they're leaving a few shoddy loopholes.  Talking of which, the "Harry" character is always done well, he never interacts with the environment, but I thought it was a bit far-fetched when Rudy/Brian did a few episodes ago.

 

Talking of shoddy details, I've found quite a few cinematic glitches in some Quentin Tarantino movies I watched a while ago.

 

You know in "Kill Bill, the absolutely wonderful and classic scene where The Bride tosses her knife into Vernita  just as Vernita turns her gun in the cereal box onto The Bride and takes a shot at her?

  The Bride ducks and the shot goes into the wall behind her on her left.  As the next scene continues, suddenly the bullet chip on the wall is now on a totally different, closer wall, to the Bride's right.  Umm..

 

Then, not so bad, but still noticable, in "Inglorious Basterds", in the scene at the start where the Nazi's approach the owner of the diary farm in France, where the farmer washes his face and tells his daughters to go inside the house while he washes his face outside, and you can see the Nazi's approaching in the background;

 

- Every time a new scene is tagged onto the previous one, the Nazi's appear to be more or less in exactly the same place as they were before the camera turned away from them to go close-up on dialogue between Perrier LaPadite and his daughter. 

 

Yet the Nazi's are supposed to be moving forward at a steady pace.  The effect to me was as if some huge invisible hand had in the meantime picked them up and set them a bit back on the road, so they could travel that same bit of distance again... and again. 

 

Well, now I finally go that off my chest. 

 

Has anybody else noticed cinematic 'glitches' like these in movies, and it kind of felt like you wanted to say to the director:"Did you really think I wasn't going to notice that?"

 

 

Hmm, and talking of Tarantino, I might have time to watch 'Pulp Fiction" today.

 


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27 NOV 2011 at 6:50am

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Your concern is a good one, Jen, and I can't really present an ironclad explanation, but I can present a couple of plausible ones:

 

Spoiler Alert1. If Travis were subconsciously aware of the horror of what he'd done, he could have chain himself up in order for him not to hurt anyone else, and then blocked the whole span of time out.

Spoiler Alert2. Geller's personality could have tied Travis up so he wouldn't go to the police or do anything stupid that would get him caught---or simply just to maintain a greater level of control.  The key to the lock could be hidden within reach, and Travis would be unaware.


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27 NOV 2011 at 7:56am

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Ok, but for your #2 to be viable, Travis would have to have a proper psycotic "split personality".  In real practice, patients presenting with this kind of 'complete" split in their personalities into different opposing parts, the 'good" and the "bad' part usually, (if it is only 2 personalities,) it is because the 2 parts find themselves incompatible.  Travis and Geller have been working together, and we know that Geller was at least a real person at a point in time.  Spilt personalities don't AFAIK normally  'impersonate"  real people, but granted, I don't know enough about the subject. 

 

That would be more a kind of straighforward Scizophrenia, and phsychology manuals tell us that hearing "voices" is usually the kind of hallucination you get, whereas visual hallucinations are less common. I guess this instance would be similar to the guy that "A Beautiful Mind"  was based on - he kind of believed in ppl and situations that weren't really there, but they were never real ppl to start with.    Hmmmm..

 

The kind of illusion people uphold that dead people are still alive  would be more an inability to accept that someone isn't alive anymore, like a loved one that used to be close to you. 

Spoiler AlertAnyway, if Geller is really not alive anymore, it would be a very very interesting plot point as to how he met with his end, eh?

 

PS.  Read this up recently, because of having been in contact with a real psychotic person, and wanted to know more about the condition.

 


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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."


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27 NOV 2011 at 11:00am

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Actually, Dexter has always been full of holes.

 

For example, he regularly travels across the sprawling city and way out into the Everglades during work hours for his "personal activities" and yet his co-workers and bosses rarely if ever even notice he is gone for hours and hours. He also takes frequent late-night trips well offshore in his boat to dispose of "evidence" yet nobody ever asks where he goes until the wee hours and he always seems fresh as a daisy a few hours later as he scurries off to the office.  Logistics aside, does the man ever get tired? 

 

Otherwise, his sister (who became a great detective with excellent intuitive instincts) never had a clue that her brother suffered from severe emotional problems growing up. She says they were very close as kids and they have never been far apart, yet she never once sensed his dark side. Maybe she has a blind spot when it comes to her brother or maybe it's just another unexplained plot hole we are supposed to ignore.  Either way, like most TV shows, it doesn't hold together if you analyze it too much.

 

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The ending of tonight's episode was... chilling.



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29 NOV 2011 at 8:05am

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Well, I think the last Dexter answered the big question for us.

 

 



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30 NOV 2011 at 7:17am

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Yes, Stiler, seems like I'm not as clever at spotting devious plot twists as some of our more seasoned TV watchers around here...   I'm just glad they decided not to take me up on the betting thing.. 

   

 

EDIT:  Hahaha, now y did that text turn out pink?  Yay, Rainbow JA  <_<


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Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.”   - Robert Bloch
 

 

"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."


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30 NOV 2011 at 11:29am

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Im liking " American Horror Story" nice and creepy, strange, off the wall.

 Love "Walking Dead" but was really dissapointed in "Grimm" It feels like a "Supernatural" wanna be.



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30 NOV 2011 at 1:55pm

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Speaking of the Walking Dead,

 

Spoiler AlertThe mid-season finale this past Sunday was simply amazing, from the writing, to the acting and everything. It brought the entire show to a very pivotal point where the group was at this season. I felt so bad for Hershel. After all he had done for them, and how he was finally going to let them stay but only on the condition that they treat the walkers like he asks them to, then that happened. All those people that he knew in life before this and how he was holing onto hope that someday they might be returned, to last that long and to have all those people that you had helped do that. Then when Sophia walked out of the barn, after they had spent so much time looking for her she was there the whole time. This really lbrought on thinking about them as "people" or not as "people" like the two groups saw them. Then how Rick stepped up to be the one to put her down, after he had not even fired a shot the whole time. Simply a poigant ending for the mid season. I can not wait to see how it picks up come Feburary.

 

 

edit - Spoiler tags don't let you use paragraphs? Bit annoying, makes you use a wall of text lol.



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30 NOV 2011 at 6:28pm

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I find The Walking Dead to be a steaming pile of garbage, but I watch it anyway.  There's just so little lately...

 

I have yet to watch the episode in question, but if it's anything like the previous six, I doubt I'll be impressed.  I'll allow I could be surprised, though.  

 


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30 NOV 2011 at 6:36pm

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Originally Posted By Traveller

 

Yes, Stiler, seems like I'm not as clever at spotting devious plot twists as some of our more seasoned TV watchers around here...   I'm just glad they decided not to take me up on the betting thing.. 

   

 

EDIT:  Hahaha, now y did that text turn out pink?  Yay, Rainbow JA 

 We're all wrong once in a while, aren't we?  Some more than others, so it's good that you have a turn for a change!

 

 I confess I'm worried that at this juncture all the wind will go out of this season's sails.  I suspect it'll be a by-the-numbers affair.  You know what I think would be interesting, though?  The cops actually catching the killer. for once.   


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30 NOV 2011 at 9:10pm

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stiler, I absolutely agree with you and cant wait for the next episode.

I really hate we have to wait as long as we do.



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1 DEC 2011 at 4:03am

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Originally Posted By JKing

Originally Posted By Traveller

 

Yes, Stiler, seems like I'm not as clever at spotting devious plot twists as some of our more seasoned TV watchers around here...   I'm just glad they decided not to take me up on the betting thing.. 

   

 

EDIT:  Hahaha, now y did that text turn out pink?  Yay, Rainbow JA 

 We're all wrong once in a while, aren't we?  Some more than others, so it's good that you have a turn for a change!

 

 I confess I'm worried that at this juncture all the wind will go out of this season's sails.  I suspect it'll be a by-the-numbers affair.  You know what I think would be interesting, though?  The cops actually catching the killer. for once.   

 

Yes, like it happened before, with the cops busting in just as Dex is about to be killed by the rabid "other killer"  XD, but this time, he gets caught in the little tablaux and everyone wonders how he ended up there.  That could help as a plot device, ratcheting up friction between Dex and Debb too.

 

Debb(screams)  : "You motherfxxxxx-ing knew about this and you didn't  FFF&&&&'n  TELL   me!@!!!!#$%$#%^&??????!!!!!!      

 

Dexter:  *gives dark ominous stare*


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1 DEC 2011 at 8:25pm

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Indeed.  I'm very curious to see how things pan out between Dexter and Debra this season.  I get the feeling it'll result in a serious shift; I'm not sure if it'll bring them closer or drive a wedge between them, though---I sure am curious to find out!

 

Tonight I watched Community, easily my favourite show.  Last week's episode was a little weak, but they made up for it this week, particularly with the Trobed moment in the opening scene.  You'd think those two would start to get old, but they really don't, and that's fantastic.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get watch some Inspector Spacetime[1]!

 

[1]Not really. 


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3 DEC 2011 at 9:10pm

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I watched "Super 8" tonight, and while I've not historically been a great fan of JJ Abrams' films, I can say without reservation that this one was excellent.  Everything from the story to the cinematogrphy and effects and even the acting (which can often be dicey with children) were well executed.  The movie within the movie was a nice touch, the period it's set in was very effective for its cause, and the sci-fi elements were nicely downplayed to focus on the characters.  Time well wasted, definitely. 


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27 MAR 2012 at 9:28am

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Well, Dexter may be gone for now, but in the meantime I got addicted to Leverage.

 

..and season 2 of GOT is waiting around the corner! 


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1 APR 2012 at 4:02pm

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I personally love Walking Dead - cheese and all.

Also, Grimm and Once Upon A Time. Again, cheese and all. Finally getting used to Dr. Allison from the first season of House being the heroine in Once Upon A Time. Haven't watched ANYTHING on "regular" network TV in ages so it's surprising that I'm watching 2 shows on it now.

 

I've heard Dexter is great but haven't gotten around to watching any episodes.

 

Latest train wreck TV has been Doomsday Preppers. They do have some great ideas though.


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1 APR 2012 at 6:51pm

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Dexter is one of the best thriller series on tv, at least the first few seasons.

 

Last Season of it was terrible, hopefully the next one is a lot better.

 

Regardless, if you like thriller/mysteries you owe it to yourself to give Dexter a try.

 

Can't wait for Game of Thrones tonight, just an hour to go. Then next week we have The Borgias coming back.



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I went to see Avengers 3D.   Nice fun movie.  Fast paced, corny storyline, cheesey heros, doesn't take itself seriously and we all left the cinema highly amused. 



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