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18 JUL 2010 at 10:55am

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As a kid my favourite Enid Blyton characters were the Five Find-outers.  They were the ones who taught me about 2 tricks that I subsequently encountered again and again in books and games:

1) Rubbing over a notebook with charcoal to read the indentations of the text that had been scribbled out on the page, now torn out, above;

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2) Pushing the key out of a lock on to  a piece of newspaper/pamphlet/*insert generic flat item* to retrieve it from the other side.

The most recent notebook rubbing incident I can remember in a game, was Gabriel Knight 1.

I know I've encountered the key thing in many games, but for the life of me, the only ones I can remember right now, was in Ceville, and in Whispered World.

Can anyone else help me out in compiling a list to see if these occurences are really as prevalent as I suspect they are in Adventure games?

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18 JUL 2010 at 11:47am

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Certainly the whole key thing is common, though I have trouble coming up with concrete examples.  I'm fairly certain The Longest Journey is such an example, and KQ2+ has a similar puzzle, that of using a rigid, flat object to drag something across a crosed doorway.

As for rubbing charcoal on paper, I've played few mystery-type adventures, so I can't really substantiate that, I'm afraid.
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18 JUL 2010 at 12:03pm

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If I'm not mistaken, there's a key-puzzle in Post Mortem (might be wrong though...I've played it a long time ago!)

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18 JUL 2010 at 12:12pm

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Dark Fall: Spoiler AlertRoom 3F slide the bird picture under the door and use the screwdriver with the key hole until the key drops out.

I recently completed this one, so my memory is still fresh  

 

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18 JUL 2010 at 12:43pm

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Thanks guys, I'll make a tally later; keep them coming!  

I had forgotten to ask, in my original post, that we don't post detail of exactly which door and exactly which items to use on the doors - in case people who hadn't played those specific games yet, get upset for reading spoilers in this way.    
 

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18 JUL 2010 at 3:12pm

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I know there have been tons I have encountered, but I can't seem to recall most right now.

I know that Dog Day had a key-under-the-door puzzle, and am pretty sure that Laura Bow II: The Dagger of Amon Ra had a graphite rubbing puzzle. I'll try to remember some more and post later =D

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18 JUL 2010 at 3:53pm

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If I recall correctly (and I'll admit that although the memory seems fairly clear, it has been quite some time, I believe), there was such a key puzzle in the first Phantasmagoria.

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18 JUL 2010 at 4:42pm

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It would be shorter to list the games it doesn't appear in.

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18 JUL 2010 at 4:47pm

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Originally Posted By Lucien21 (18 JUL 2010 4:42pm)
It would be shorter to list the games it doesn't appear in.



True.  Well, what might be more fun, then, is to simply list the different items you had to use in your gaming career to catch the key with?  

Such as:
1. Sticky food tray
2. Pamphlet
3. ermm... poster?


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18 JUL 2010 at 4:55pm

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Sherlock Holmes: Mystery of the mummy also has the classic key in the door puzzle.

 

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18 JUL 2010 at 5:00pm

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I can confirm there's a key puzzle in Post Mortem as I played it just last week. There may be some on one of the Broken Swords, but I'm not 100% sure.

A variation of notebook puzzle is in Syberia. There's one in Post Mortem, too.

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18 JUL 2010 at 5:08pm

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Ah, I seem to remember that the Post Mortem notebook puzzle was quite interesting, actually.    [smiley=happy.gif]

Btw, Donna, how did you find that 'painting' puzzle - not the compare one, the big one against the wall?  That one had me pulling my hair out!

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18 JUL 2010 at 5:25pm

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I definitely remember a key trick puzzle in Zork Grand Inquisitor, and I think both Physicus and The Labyrinth of Time had one.

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19 JUL 2010 at 4:40am

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A goofy one I ran across was from Tony Tough and the night of the roasted moths. It's been awhile but I remember having to:

Spoiler AlertSteal a worm from a fisherman; get rid of a hot dog vendor so you could freeze the worm in the vendor's freezer; use frozen worm to poke the key through; and catch key on...I can't remember what but I'm sure it was something equally silly.

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19 JUL 2010 at 5:20am

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Scratches had a key-door-newspaper puzzle, and if I remember correctly it was Operation Wintersun that let you try it but it didn't work.
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Originally Posted By pollodiablo (19 JUL 2010 5:20am)
and if I remember correctly it was Operation Wintersun that let you try it but it didn't work.


Yeah, I remember that one using a pencil/handkerchief combo. But the key was too thick to fit under the door. I think this was kind of a wink to the trite nature of all the keyhole puzzles in AGs
Spoiler AlertIf I remember correctly, you had to use acid to burn through the lock.

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19 JUL 2010 at 6:20am

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Originally Posted By pollodiablo (19 JUL 2010 5:20am)
Scratches had a key-door-newspaper puzzle, and if I remember correctly it was Operation Wintersun that let you try it but it didn't work.


It didn't work in Scratches either.
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19 JUL 2010 at 8:12am

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Originally Posted By placeholder (18 JUL 2010 5:07pm)
Ah, I seem to remember that the Post Mortem notebook puzzle was quite interesting, actually.    [smiley=happy.gif]

Btw, Donna, how did you find that 'painting' puzzle - not the compare one, the big one against the wall?  That one had me pulling my hair out!


Yeah, the one in Post Mortem was pretty realistic. I liked that.

Ugh, that goddamn painting. This was my fourth play-through (I played it when it came out, then one more time several years later, then I realised there was a 3rd ending that is a bit tough to get so I played it again... ha) and I had to look up a walkthrough because I couldn't find one piece no matter how hard I looked! It's pixel-hunting at its best (or worst, depending on how you look at it).

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19 JUL 2010 at 9:50am

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Also a key puzzle in one of the nancy drew games, don't remember which one though :-?

 

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20 JUL 2010 at 1:04am

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There was the key puzzle in "alone in the dark" and for some reason, even though its been years sinced I played it I think of that particular game whenever I encounter the key under the door puzzle.

Im pretty sure one of the Nancy Drews and "Rhiannon" also had the paper indentation puzzle. Those are all I can think of at the moment.

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20 JUL 2010 at 1:38am

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Originally Posted By Gamer (20 JUL 2010 1:04am)
There was the key puzzle in "alone in the dark" and for some reason, even though its been years sinced I played it I think of that particular game whenever I encounter the key under the door puzzle.

Hey, I remember that, now that you mention it!  I always loved that game.  Really spooky, when it wasn't being hilariously silly.  

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