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#1 1 APR 2010 at 7:45pm
SirDave Guild Master Posts : 4940 Joined: 17 OCT 2002 Location: US Status : Offline	Some time ago, I mentioned the rumours of what we now know to be the Apple iPad and forecasted the potential benefits for adventure games in general: http://justadventure.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1259099456/38#38 Anyway, my iPad is due to be delivered on Saturday AM (4/1/10) and I am more excited about the event than I have been about any gadget for quite some time. In fact, I find myself unexpectedly out of town at the moment and so I will be making a 250 mile round trip to make sure I am home to take delivery. As an update to the post referenced above, we now know that many, if not most, apps for the iTouch will run on the iPad. By double-tapping on the screen, the apps (480x320 pixel resolution of the iTouch) will be rescaled for the 1024x768 fullscreen of the iPad. I will be trying some games such as Myst and Under A Steel Sky right away and expect that they may be a tad pixelated. However, my guess is that developers will re-release games like this with a better resolution (though not necessarily 1024x76 for the iPad before too long. I mentioned the many benefits of this type of platform for AGs in my original post. I stand by all of them and furthermore, forecast that the iPad will result in the eventual development of several new point and click AGs. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see several older AGs revived for the iPad, many more than have been for the iTouch. The touch-screen iPad has almost every chance of being an almost optimal platform for point & click games. The effect of the release of the iPad will take some time to be realized when it comes to new AGs, but I say it will happen, especially since it will now be cost-effective for very small developers to both put out some good games and make a profit. Stay tuned. The future ain't what it used to be!
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#2 1 APR 2010 at 8:21pm
Agustín Cordes Guild Master Posts : 5696 Joined: 23 OCT 2002 Location: AR, Buenos Aires Status : Offline	Hey, you stole my topic! Slightly Deranged - Cult Cinema And Games! www.slightly-deranged.com
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#3 1 APR 2010 at 8:23pm
potan Intergalactic Janitor Posts : 16 Joined: 18 AUG 2009 Status : Online	SirDave i would be really interested to see how well Ipad handle the stretching for iphone game, especially adventure game like BASS, Monkey Island, Broken Sword etc.. Could you give us an update with a screenshot too later maan.. i wish i have some money to buy this new gadget huehe.... I plan to make adventure game for iphone/ipad too in the future [URL="http://www.anicombo.com/"]www.anicombo.com[/URL]&&[URL="http://www.anicombo.com/Games.htm"]Itemania - our 1st game[/URL]
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#4 9 APR 2010 at 6:30pm
Simo Sakari Aaltonen Space Cadet Posts : 130 Joined: 23 APR 2004 Status : Offline	Hope this is not an outstandingly stupid question for some technical or legal reason I am not aware of, but... I wonder if there is any possibility DOSBox will be available for iPad one of these days? I might conceivably faint if that were the case. [url=http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/album.php?u=57439][i]King's Quest[/i] & [i]Space Quest[/i] galleries (Telltale Forums)[/url]&&&&[url=http://www.adventurecompanion.com]The Adventure Companion[/url]
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#5 9 APR 2010 at 6:58pm
JKing Schattenjger Posts : 2349 Joined: 4 MAY 2008 Location: 0 Status : Offline	It's rather unlikely for a number of reasons. Beyond the obvious lack of a keybaord[1] (and mouse, for that matter), my understanding is that the iPad lacks a front-facing hierchical filesystem, so managing one's games would probably prove annoying. Beyond that 1GHz isn't a lot of horsepower, especially considering the iPad uses a completely different processor architecture from that which DOS would expect, which means expensive emulation. Really, it wouldn't be much good for anything save emulating a 80286, and the user experience would almost certainly be poor. One might want to repackage very old games using DOSBox internally for emulation, but this might be seen as contravening the now-infamous section 3.3.1 of the 4.0 SDK license agreement[2]. If someone wanted to release Prince of Persia for the iPad, for example, they'd probably have an easier time porting the recent remake, or just re-writing the original from scratch. [1] the virtual keyboard would probably be insufficient for most games since there are no arrow keys, function keys, et cetera; it's also unlikely Apple would allow an application which requires a hardware keyboard, but I might be wrong there. [2] http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler You can't kill someone in a studio.
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#6 9 APR 2010 at 7:51pm
Simo Sakari Aaltonen Space Cadet Posts : 130 Joined: 23 APR 2004 Status : Offline	Hi JKing! You make some good points. For ease of reference, I will comment on them in individual paragraphs. Not that I can necessarily add much beyond wishful thinking. I should also stress that I do not yet have an iPad. I am just a regular, non-technically-minded would-be-user. No keyboard or mouse: Now that I think about it, even most very old point-and-click adventure games require some typing, at least when saving a game. But there is the virtual keyboard, though I have no idea if it could be brought up in third-party applications. Alternatively, I understand there is a physical keyboard accessory available. Unless of course the device would accept any old keyboard anyway. But isn't the point of the touch screen in the first place to replace a mouse? No hierachical file system: This would make accessing games awkward, but seems a solvable problem. Maybe via some kind of "gateway" front end? Modest processor power: I understand 1GHz is borderline in getting at least some games to run smoothly, even on a PC, so this might mean that even if all the other problems were solved, it might be necessary to wait for iPad 2.0. Different processor architecture: This one sounds (at least to a layperson such as me) like it might be a problem. License agreement issue: This is the first I have read about this and I know too little to be able to comment. Now I will hide behind a corner until I find out how many problems and points of misinformation there are in the above. But I can still hope someone might consider all this merely a to-do list to be solved one point at a time. [url=http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/album.php?u=57439][i]King's Quest[/i] & [i]Space Quest[/i] galleries (Telltale Forums)[/url]&&&&[url=http://www.adventurecompanion.com]The Adventure Companion[/url]
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#7 9 APR 2010 at 8:51pm
SirDave Guild Master Posts : 4940 Joined: 17 OCT 2002 Location: US Status : Offline	IMO, one can consider DosBox for the iPad as being beyond extremely unlikely. However, given that such disparate games as Myst, Monkey Island, Beneath a Steel Sky and Return to Mysterious Island have already appeared on the iPhone/iTouch, I think it is almost definite that once a few million of the iPads are sold, we can expect a number of older AGs to appear for the iPad. These will most likely be games where there is still some sort of developer entity in existence and games that have already been released for PDAs (eg. pocketpcs). So, I expect to see Kheops games (given RTMI and a couple of others are already available for the iPhone), some of the Sokal Microids games (Syberia I & II), more of the LucasArts games, and possibly even Jonathan Boakes' games. A particular reason, not yet mentioned, why AGs (IMO) are more likely to appear and do well on the iPad is that I believe the iPad is going to have more women users, relatively, than other gadgets have had and where there's more women, there is more interest in AGs. One of the reasons there should be more women is that the iPad serves as a very good eBook reader. Some proof for this gender-based theory is that, already, some sophisticated children's books have already appeared for the iPad (eg. Miss Spider's Tea Party- a highly interactive ebook for $9.99). I have the Kindle DX which is the main competitor for the iPad as an eReader for best-seller books and the iPad compares, side by side, very favorably and, in fact, excels in some features. Another reason for possible increased interest by women is that the iPad serves as an excellent internet surfing tool (it's very fast compared to a regular laptop) and will be great for keeping up on one's Facebook & other social pages. Yet one more reason, though more speculative, is that the iPad offers some very nice basic business-related programs and the iPad will fit in a business-woman's medium-size purse more easily than a netbook. Incidentally, regarding the reported Wifi problems on the iPad. They are very much for real and I've had to deal with some of them although, so far, it's not a deal-breaker for me. For me, the effects are spurious, but mostly consist of periodic reductions to one bar on the Wifi-strength indicator (as opposed to 4 bars which my iTouch always has). However, even with one bar, I'm able to do most things on the internet. Yesterday, I had frequent one-bars; today, I'm getting consistently 4 bars- go figure. The future ain't what it used to be!
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#8 12 MAR 2011 at 3:26am
Deleted User	*Originally Posted By SirDave (1 APR 2010 7:45pm)* Some time ago, I mentioned the rumours of what we now know to be the Apple iPad and forecasted the potential benefits for adventure games in general: http://justadventure.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1259099456/38#38 Anyway, my iPad is due to be delivered on Saturday AM (4/1/10) and I am more excited about the event than I have been about any gadget for quite some time. In fact, I find myself unexpectedly out of town at the moment and so I will be making a 250 mile round trip to make sure I am home to take delivery. *(Links Deleted....JA-Staff2)* As an update to the post referenced above, we now know that many, if not most, apps for the iTouch will run on the iPad. By double-tapping on the screen, the apps (480x320 pixel resolution of the iTouch) will be rescaled for the 1024x768 fullscreen of the iPad. I will be trying some games such as Myst and Under A Steel Sky right away and expect that they may be a tad pixelated. However, my guess is that developers will re-release games like this with a better resolution (though not necessarily 1024x76 for the iPad before too long. I mentioned the many benefits of this type of platform for AGs in my original post. I stand by all of them and furthermore, forecast that the iPad will result in the eventual development of several new point and click AGs. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see several older AGs revived for the iPad, many more than have been for the iTouch. The touch-screen iPad has almost every chance of being an almost optimal platform for point & click games. The effect of the release of the iPad will take some time to be realized when it comes to new AGs, but I say it will happen, especially since it will now be cost-effective for very small developers to both put out some good games and make a profit. Stay tuned. I might conceivably faint if that were the case.

#9 12 MAR 2011 at 1:37pm
Agustín Cordes Guild Master Posts : 5696 Joined: 23 OCT 2002 Location: AR, Buenos Aires Status : Offline	That was a darned clever bot! My god... they are evolving Slightly Deranged - Cult Cinema And Games! www.slightly-deranged.com
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#10 12 MAR 2011 at 2:09pm
Traveller Guild Master Posts : 4039 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US Status : Offline	We've had an attack of 2 less clever bots these past few days. That spam actually looks manually done. Well spotted, Agustin! I saw the post, but didn't even notice the inserted links. * * * Just call me Trav. * * * “Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch "They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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#11 12 MAR 2011 at 3:18pm
JA-Staff2 Private Detective Posts : 466 Joined: 4 JUN 2004 Location: 0 Status : Online	*Originally Posted By Rael (12 MAR 2011 1:36pm)* That was a darned clever bot! My god... they are evolving Indeed. Nice catch!
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#12 12 MAR 2011 at 4:55pm
SirDave Guild Master Posts : 4940 Joined: 17 OCT 2002 Location: US Status : Offline	It looked like I had ESP, having IPad2 links in a post dated Apr 1, 2010. The future ain't what it used to be!
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#13 21 MAR 2011 at 9:45am
pirate Intergalactic Janitor Posts : 5 Joined: 10 MAR 2011 Status : Online	*Originally Posted By potan (1 APR 2010 8:23pm)* SirDave i would be really interested to see how well Ipad handle the stretching for iphone game, especially adventure game like BASS, Monkey Island, Broken Sword etc.. Could you give us an update with a screenshot too later maan.. i wish i have some money to buy this new gadget huehe.... I plan to make adventure game for iphone/ipad too in the future Good idea and good question! :-X
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#14 9 MAY 2011 at 1:42am
SirDave Guild Master Posts : 4940 Joined: 17 OCT 2002 Location: US Status : Offline	Please yank this yahoo (Walthour) above. He posted the same spam in another forum. The future ain't what it used to be!
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