| 23 FEB 2010 at 8:58pm |
MKBSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | It's a beautiful-looking game but I doubt that many people on this site have a PS3. And the developer himself said, "This is not an adventure game." But as a console action/adventure it looks great.
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| 23 FEB 2010 at 9:01pm |
Steve VeaseySpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Its only available for PS3, this is a real man's PC gaming site so not too many people will be interested...
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| 23 FEB 2010 at 9:11pm |
Steve VeaseySpace Cadet
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Status : Online | BTW, the 'real man' thing was meant to be tongue in cheek but it doesn't read like that..I know what the internet's like so I thought I'd better put in this disclaimer..
However, it doesn't alter the fact that the game IS only released for the PS3 and I know when I played the PS version of Fahrenheit compared to the PC version it was like watching a badly pirated copy of an original movie, just no comparison. I think Mr Cage may have shot himself in the foot here but if it sells ten million copies it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong
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| 23 FEB 2010 at 9:34pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Dr_Watson (23 FEB 2010 9:10pm)
BTW, the 'real man' thing was meant to be tongue in cheek but it doesn't read like that..I know what the internet's like so I thought I'd better put in this disclaimer..
That all depends if it was meant as real man, or real man...
So, get real, Steve man. <_<
Hehe, I could have fun with this, and say: Get, real Steve man! or: Get real man, Steve! etc, etc, etc...
Anyway, they'll probably give in and port it sometime, eventually.... :
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| 23 FEB 2010 at 9:42pm |
Luther10Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Come on, ps3 is light years ahead of the ps2. Indigo Prophecy is a console game, the pc verion of Indigo is only a port, hence the horrendous keyboard controls. The graphics did get an update though with higher screen resolutions.
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| 23 FEB 2010 at 9:46pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Luther10 (23 FEB 2010 9:41pm)
Come on, ps3 is light years ahead of the ps2. Indigo Prophecy is a console game, the pc verion of Indigo is only a port, hence the horrendous keyboard controls. The graphics did get an update though with higher screen resolutions.
Come on, an exception doesn't prove the rule. The point is that for a game that is only available for the ps3 to be of much interest here would require that a substantial number of people here own and use a ps3. Well, they don't.
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| 23 FEB 2010 at 10:14pm |
Luther10Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | OK, I'll stop talking about this game then. I'm only curious because 1)Heavy Rain is 100% adventure game and 2)there is a big thread over at adventuregamers.com. So thats why I made this thread...l
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| 23 FEB 2010 at 11:02pm |
MKBSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Luther10 (23 FEB 2010 10:14pm)
Heavy Rain is 100% adventure game
http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/04/david-cage-interview.aspx
Still, a beautiful looking game but not one that I'll play (I have 3 consoles: an old Super NES; a PS2; and a Wii. I have no intention of buying a PS3 just to play an action/AG/RPG or whatever this is).
I don't buy download-only games. Never have, never will........Mike
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 12:32am |
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 2:06am |
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Status : Offline | There is another forum here for Other Games.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 2:23am |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | And what other games are we talking about but Heavy Rain? The game looks great, the platform is just too bad.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 2:33am |
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Status : Offline | Yeah, that's the problem. Some people think Heavy Rain is an adventure (hence the original post here) and others don't. The game looks good but AG it ain't.
So says I and so says HR's creator .
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 3:28am |
ShanyGuild Master
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Status : Online | Well, it seems to be getting the complaints many adventures get - it's slow...
It looks really pretty, and character interactions are realistic from what I've seen. Haven't seen any puzzles yet.
If Heavy Rain isn't an adventure, why is Fahrenheit one?
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 3:44am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MKB (24 FEB 2010 2:33am)
Yeah, that's the problem. Some people think Heavy Rain is an adventure (hence the original post here) and others don't. The game looks good but AG it ain't.
So says I and so says HR's creator .
Well sort of...
I think he's trying to distance himself from the purists who don't believe AGs should have action elements, but do believe in inventory and dialog trees.
Indigo tried to do something different and tell a story a different way and got blasted by many for not being AG enough. Heck, even Randy called it for what it was in his review and praised it for breaking new ground.
I do think we need to start bowing to the Randy idol for being a prophet though. After reading that interview linked by MTK, Randy's words in his Indigo review seem almost prophetic:
(btw, I do fervently hope that the powers-to-be at Quantic Dreams are smart enough to ignore the moronic – and that’s not the word I really want to use - advice of the console community, such as PSM Magazine, who wrote that Indigo Prophecy would be a better game if it had “less talk and more action.” Stupid, stupid twitch jockeys.)
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 5:30am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I'm playing it and having a blast so far. About 3 hours in or so.
If you liked Fahrenheit, you'll like Heavy rain. It's quite similar in gameplay but mor efocus with QTE's (though the QTE's are NOT the "miss=fail" like in fahrenheit).
As far as "adventure games," it is an adventure the same way Fahrenheit was. It focuses on the character sand the storyline. You have things to figure out (mainly as the the FBI guy) in terms o clues, etc).
the game itself relies more on a cinematic approach then your old style adventures, more focus on story/character interaction and not on the old and tired "pixel hunt and pick up every-single-object-that-you-may-need-in-the-future" schtick that older adventures rely on. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy adventure games (why else would I be here? ) I just enjoy them more for the story and characters rather then the all too common "unlogical" puzzles thrown in to pad gameplay.
To me, Fahrenheit was an adventure game in a new/different direction. The adventure genre has been stale for a long time, it's lost steam and fahrenheit, at the time, made me have hope for newer adventure games and interest in them from outside of the niche audience it has become. Heavy Rain is up the same alley and with it's reviews (Many 9/10+) hopefully it will do just that.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 5:47am |
GonchiSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | I lost interest in Heavy Rain the moment it went console exclusive. Pity, I enjoyed Quantic Dream's previous games and expected I would like this one too.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 7:23am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Luther10 (23 FEB 2010 9:41pm)
Indigo Prophecy is a console game, the pc verion of Indigo is only a port, hence the horrendous keyboard controls.
I had been under the impression that you could play the PC game with a controller?
Anyway, I personally play action games anyway, (the jumping, shooting, hacking, slashing variety)and I don't mind QTE's as long as they are integrated into the logic of the game. The flasing lights/buttons you had to push in Fahrenheit (AKA I.P.) were not only anti-immersive and made no sense in the logic and the flow of the game, it distracted you from the action by forcing you to focus your vision on the flashing lights instead of the action.
For instance, the fighting scenes would have made a lot more sense if you had key-bindings for punching and kicking Mortal Kombat style (I love Mortal Kombat! ) Surely that would have given you enough action without having to mash the coloured light buttons?
I really hated those... it would be sad if heavy rain still has them.
Ok, I know all of my port predictions have not come true (such as that Fable 2 has still not been ported, which I'd expected it will); but I'm prepared to bet a small amount of cash (only a few $, mind) that this will eventually be ported to PC.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 7:28am |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | I've played the demo and it is superb.
Will be buying it on Friday as soon as it comes out.
It will be best adventure of 2010 by a long shot.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 7:39am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (24 FEB 2010 7:22am)
Originally Posted By Luther10 (23 FEB 2010 9:41pm)
Indigo Prophecy is a console game, the pc verion of Indigo is only a port, hence the horrendous keyboard controls.
I had been under the impression that you could play the PC game with a controller?
Anyway, I personally play action games anyway, (the jumping, shooting, hacking, slashing variety)and I don't mind QTE's as long as they are integrated into the logic of the game. The flasing lights/buttons you had to push in Fahrenheit (AKA I.P.) were not only anti-immersive and made no sense in the logic and the flow of the game, it distracted you from the action by forcing you to focus your vision on the flashing lights instead of the action.
For instance, the fighting scenes would have made a lot more sense if you had key-bindings for punching and kicking Mortal Kombat style (I love Mortal Kombat! ) Surely that would have given you enough action without having to mash the coloured light buttons?
I really hated those... it would be sad if heavy rain still has them.
Ok, I know all of my port predictions have not come true (such as that Fable 2 has still not been ported, which I'd expected it will); but I'm prepared to bet a small amount of cash (only a few $, mind) that this will eventually be ported to PC.
The QTE's are still there, but it's a lot more immersive in terms of the way it's presented (the highlights appear over the object/direction, and it's a nice simple button prompt, not big or overly flashy).
As well, with the QTE's in Heavy Rain it's not a miss=end/you die. You can miss one and it the scene goes on. It can change what happens (IE you get hit or dodge the attack, or more drastic things).
This video shows how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ENHaGpM-s
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 11:45am |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Heavy rain is one out of 2 games that makes me wish I had a PS3 (the other is MGS4). The game looks very interesting, and if it's like Fahrenheit, I would count it as an adventure. Genre limits are far blurrier these days than they used to be back when AGs were really popular.
It sounds like Heavy rain is one of those games that does QTEs right. Instant death thanks to failed QTE is never fun, but if a failed QTE impacts the story or you negatively in some way, without forcing you to replay/rewatch an entire scene, then they might work well.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 12:08pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Come to think of it, I would rather have these new Adventure Games discussed where I can read about them. That wayI will be informed on their content and avoid them accordingly .
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 12:59pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | I'm not getting this PC die-hards scene...
I've always had consoles. My last one was Wii. I'm not getting PS3 by lack of time to dedicate to it. Nowadays I find it much more confortable to play on my PC. But that doesn't mean all my adventure games were played on it. I played Broken Sword 3, Da Vinci Code, and many others on my PS2 for instance...
Indigo Prophecy being one of my favourite adventure games ever (I finished within one day, no kidding) it obviously made me think of buying PS3 to play Heavy Rain. But as much as I know I'd love the game to death, I dont think buying a console just to play that game is really worth it.
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 1:17pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Inesrocks (24 FEB 2010 12:59pm)
I'm not getting this PC die-hards scene...
I've always had consoles. My last one was Wii. I'm not getting PS3 by lack of time to dedicate to it. Nowadays I find it much more confortable to play on my PC. But that doesn't mean all my adventure games were played on it. I played Broken Sword 3, Da Vinci Code, and many others on my PS2 for instance...
Indigo Prophecy being one of my favourite adventure games ever (I finished within one day, no kidding) it obviously made me think of buying PS3 to play Heavy Rain. But as much as I know I'd love the game to death, I dont think buying a console just to play that game is really worth it.
For me it's a question of personal finances and of convenience. I have already spent a large amount to have a superior gaming machine. Why should I go and spend an additional amount on an additional machine, for which the hardware is not upgradable as is the case with my PC, which only has a limited range of software availble for it, which is much more expensive than that for my PC, and for which I need extra space.
I would not even know where to put a PS3, and indeed, I would most probably have to go to another room than where my PC is -one of the main reasons I never played on my PS2. It was set up in my bedroom, and therefore extremely inconvenient.
For gaming on my PC, I need merely task switch and I can sit in exactly the same place as where I listen to my music, watch my movies, do my work, my studying and my surfing and my IM chatting.
There really just is no contest. I've already been bitten with a console just being a white elephant around my place, why should I spend money on something that in my case, will just never be convenient to use?
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| 24 FEB 2010 at 5:52pm |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (24 FEB 2010 1:17pm)
Originally Posted By Inesrocks (24 FEB 2010 12:59pm)
I'm not getting this PC die-hards scene...
I've always had consoles. My last one was Wii. I'm not getting PS3 by lack of time to dedicate to it. Nowadays I find it much more confortable to play on my PC. But that doesn't mean all my adventure games were played on it. I played Broken Sword 3, Da Vinci Code, and many others on my PS2 for instance...
Indigo Prophecy being one of my favourite adventure games ever (I finished within one day, no kidding) it obviously made me think of buying PS3 to play Heavy Rain. But as much as I know I'd love the game to death, I dont think buying a console just to play that game is really worth it.
For me it's a question of personal finances and of convenience. I have already spent a large amount to have a superior gaming machine. Why should I go and spend an additional amount on an additional machine, for which the hardware is not upgradable as is the case with my PC, which only has a limited range of software availble for it, which is much more expensive than that for my PC, and for which I need extra space.
I would not even know where to put a PS3, and indeed, I would most probably have to go to another room than where my PC is -one of the main reasons I never played on my PS2. It was set up in my bedroom, and therefore extremely inconvenient.
For gaming on my PC, I need merely task switch and I can sit in exactly the same place as where I listen to my music, watch my movies, do my work, my studying and my surfing and my IM chatting.
There really just is no contest. I've already been bitten with a console just being a white elephant around my place, why should I spend money on something that in my case, will just never be convenient to use?
You could use your pc monitor, if it's a good widescreen lcd especially.
I have both, my ps3 and 360, hooked up to my computer monitor and sitting on top of my desk.
A simple hdmi/dvi switch lets you hook it up and toggle from pc to the others.
I use this one: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011001&p_id=2786&seq=1&format=2
(My 360 is connected directly to my monitors vga connection, so the switch is only for the ps3).
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