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| 5 JAN 2010 at 6:04pm |
| Deleted User | Let's also not forget that everyone's been struggling with a global recession, where the emphasis has shifted away from luxuries in consumer patterns.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 6:09pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | If you were to talk to people who are close to or in retirement, my guess would be that if you asked them what their regrets were, they would tend to be more in the category of 'I wish I had at least tried such and such' rather than 'I wish I had succeeded at such and such'. Furthermore, I would say that when it comes to summing up the value, fullness and substance of one's own life 'to have to tried is to have succeeded'.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 6:37pm |
AShadowWalkerPrivate Detective
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Joined: 6 AUG 2009
Status : Online | Originally Posted By alkis21 (5 JAN 2010 11:48am)
AShadowWalker, I appreciate it that you consider me important enough to give tips to others. But wouldn't you rather hear it from someone who actually succeeded in the business? I don't think you'd buy diet tips from an overweight person. What would I name my book, "How to fail in game development in 12 easy steps"?
Every idea is important, The one's who succeeded just as well as the one's who failed have a story to tell. Everyone fails, the good thing is that you learn from the mistakes and try again. And again. And again. Sooner or later you will get your ducks in a row, and then, you will know from past experience what to do and more importantly what not to do. Yes Alkis, your perspective is important, and so are your experience and failings. It is a lesson learned. I want to become a chef and I want to put together a restaurant with a man who has a great deal of experience.
No matter how good a chef I may become or how many awards I were to get let's say, it still would not protect me from screwing up or making mistakes, or even failing. That is where experience comes in.
It is not just all about being in the right place or time, but also knowing how to pick the right time and place and that takes experience too. With a good amount of luck also, but experience is very important.
Someone who can guide you and tell you where the mines are could make your travel easier. Not remove all the problems, but make the travel easier and enable you to travel farther, until the right wind comes along and you have a full wind to your sails.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 11:41pm |
alkis21Schattenjger
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Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: GR
Status : Offline | I admire your spirit, friend. But mine is broken.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 11:51pm |
| Deleted User | I think we need to understand that Alkis needs time to grieve. I've just realised that he must be going through a grieving process as much as when you lose a beloved one. I guess a lot of anger and grief is quite natural in such a situation.
Alkis, it breaks my heart to hear you talking like that. :'( :'(
I feel sure there will be a new beginning for you, but I think you'll need to work through a process of grieving first.
I wish there is something I could say to make things a bit better, but I guess there isn't, really.
Just that I think we all care about you and feel for you.
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| 6 JAN 2010 at 1:10am |
AShadowWalkerPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (5 JAN 2010 11:50pm)
I think we need to understand that Alkis needs time to grieve. I've just realised that he must be going through a grieving process as much as when you lose a beloved one. I guess a lot of anger and grief is quite natural in such a situation.
Alkis, it breaks my heart to hear you talking like that. :'( :'(
I feel sure there will be a new beginning for you, but I think you'll need to work through a process of grieving first.
I wish there is something I could say to make things a bit better, but I guess there isn't, really.
Just that I think we all care about you and feel for you.
ditto
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 1:56am |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Hi, Alkis. Long time, no see - I'm very sorry to hear of your situation. But believe me, Alkis, I know things will get better. When you've hit rock bottom, you cannot sink down any lower - you can only go up. And I mean up, up, and soaring when things do get better - much better - for you.
Thanks for helping me with these comic books I wrote a few years back.
Doin' Warp 9 to the Great Kingdom of Adventure Games of Outer Space
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 4:10am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Experience has taught me that it's virtually impossible to hit rock bottom. If it serves of any consolation, you could be dead. And even then, when you realize it really got worse, someone could be desecrating your body. I could go on and on and mention things such as necrophilia but the little voice in my head is telling me to stop now.
Anyway, I trust Alkis will return to adventure game development and this will be just a brief pause. He's one of the few true gurus of the genre and it won't be the same without him
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 5:10am |
shadow9d9Sorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | I bought the game, enjoyed it, and sent feedback. Unfortunately that is all I could do. Sorry to hear.
At least you made an excellent game.
Disclaimer:&&&&Please do not take my opinions personally. I have strong opinions that may differ harshly with other popular opinions. I also have a rather direct way of expressing them. Keep this in mind when reading and do not get upset!
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 5:37am |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Have faith, Alkis - when the bottom falls out, the Great Provider is your safety net.
Doin' Warp 9 to the Great Kingdom of Adventure Games of Outer Space
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 9:43am |
alkis21Schattenjger
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Location: GR
Status : Offline | Guys, people will start thinking that you're trying to talk me out of killing myself. I appreciate the sentiments but really, I'll live.
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 2:01pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By alkis21 (7 JAN 2010 9:42am)
Guys, people will start thinking that you're trying to talk me out of killing myself. I appreciate the sentiments but really, I'll live.
It's only because we care, sir. 8-)
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 5:50pm |
AShadowWalkerPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By alkis21 (7 JAN 2010 9:42am)
Guys, people will start thinking that you're trying to talk me out of killing myself. I appreciate the sentiments but really, I'll live.
No Alkis we know you won't kill youself, we just want to keep you from doing other things like.....start hanging out with numerous strange women like Tiger Woods, start damaging your liver by consuming large quantities of booze, gamble all your money on Las Vegas craps tables, or give it away to naked pole dancers, stop bathing, wear the same clothes for three weeks, hit the trail and try to live like a hobo, start dressing yourself in your wife's clothes (silk panties do feel reaaly good ) start talking to yourself and getting to hear answers out of thin air, start agreeing with everything your wfe says (just kidding), begin using illicit medications, or start going to work without clothes.....that's all.
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 6:29pm |
GodfreyIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By AShadowWalker (7 JAN 2010 5:50pm)
Originally Posted By alkis21 (7 JAN 2010 9:42am)
Guys, people will start thinking that you're trying to talk me out of killing myself. I appreciate the sentiments but really, I'll live.
No Alkis we know you won't kill youself, we just want to keep you from doing other things like.....start hanging out with numerous strange women like Tiger Woods, start damaging your liver by consuming large quantities of booze, gamble all your money on Las Vegas craps tables, or give it away to naked pole dancers, stop bathing, wear the same clothes for three weeks, hit the trail and try to live like a hobo, start dressing yourself in your wife's clothes (silk panties do feel reaaly good ) start talking to yourself and getting to hear answers out of thin air, start agreeing with everything your wfe says (just kidding), begin using illicit medications, or start going to work without clothes.....that's all.
Wow! Sounds like the place I've just returned from for my annual Xmas hols. Well, why beat around the bush? Why not advise Alkis to spend a month in downtown Manila for pretty much all of the above? At least it will clear away some of the gloom and give this genius of a designer a break.
Seriously though, I loved DITR, in spite of needing a walkthrough as I was desperate to know the next twist, and would love to see more of the same. How about marketing games a la Mr J Boakes and selling downloadable and jewel case masterpieces directly? Surely it can't be too complex, or perhaps I am too naive in this adventure marketing world.
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 7:02pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Alright alright, you may kill yourself, but please leave us another adventure first.
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| 8 JAN 2010 at 5:37am |
JoGuild Master
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Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | Alkis, I can't even begin to tell you how sorry I am to hear that Atropos Studios is no more. I loved DITR and like a lot of other people was looking forward to your next game, maybe it's not to be right now, but who knows in the future, things can change after all so keep your chin up and all the best for the future.
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