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| 8 DEC 2009 at 10:32pm |
| Deleted User | It seems that every time I wander into Target I pick the game up and look at it. I always end up putting it down since it states Operating System: WIN XP [img]http://justadventure.com/yabb/Smilies/doh.gif[/img] and my XP computer doesn't meet the system requirements. [img]http://justadventure.com/yabb/Smilies/shrug.gif[/img]
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| 8 DEC 2009 at 11:06pm |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Read the thread here "a newbie in Oblivion". That's me.
About the system requirements. There are plenty of ways to keep the system load down, and plenty more help at the Elder Scrolls site and others.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 1:42am |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Yes please do.
You will never regret it and I would regret it if you did not see that wonderful world in that remarkable game.
We can help and gladly if your system may have any dhallenges. We have a thread of mods that will also maybe make the game even more enjoyable, ....it is truly a wonderful world, and there are
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hundreds of NPCs to interact with, Companiosn including fuly voiced ones you can add to share your adventures, and so so much more.
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so, YES. there is much treasure of all kinds...
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You will find some of us in there quite often.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 4:50am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By TAS (8 DEC 2009 11:05pm)
Read the thread here "a newbie in Oblivion". That's me.
I have, I know.
My apologies Cris. I may have misled you on my gaming options.
My big question with Oblivion is, does it work with Windows Vista? I did some investigating and according to Yahoo Answers it does. True? If so, my gaming computer (INTEL Core 2 Duo e8400 3.0ghz, ATI Radeon HD 4870 512M GDDR5, 4GB RAM) is certainly up to the task. Should this not be the case my old XP computer is restricted by the graphics card (GeForce 6600) which doesn’t match up with Oblivion’s recommended system requirements, specifically GeForce 6800. Although the 6600 is supported it most likely means I’d be playing the game at something like 800 x 600 and at minimal settings for other graphics options. From experience I know this is not very pleasurable.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 5:35am |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Yes it should work fine on Vista. See bottom of this post for info on Vista and Oblvion from the official Elder Scrolls forum.
And the 6600 will handle it fine too. I had just that card when i started my current install, and with the low poly grass which makes a huge difference in frame rate for older cards, (see my post on the Oblvion Mod thread here for it).... you can do ok. It wont run as well as a better card but it will run fine.
Here is info on Vista:
install Oblivion in the generic C:/Program Files because Vista's UAC will block mods (and some of the DLC add-ons, it seems) installed ther. So create a new folder in C:/ (C:/Games is a good idea IMO) but ALSO load oblivion.exe using the xp sp2 compatability by right-clicking on Properties. You might need to run as administrator as well
INSTALLING OBLIVION, or any other game on a VISTA COMPUTER:
Although many users on this forum are likely using Windows XP, the bottom line is, the world is moving on. Specifically, Microsoft support for XP is coming to an end. For that matter, Windows VISTA is soon to be replaced by Windows 7. Therefore, it's appropriate to be prepared to move forward.
First things first, if you're using Vista, make sure you're updated to SP1 (Service Pack 1). Pre service Pack versions are kind of wobbly, and have some pretty radical security problems.
Vista uses a number of techniques to provide protection to programs installed in the "Program Files" directory. All of these techniques are controlled by the "UAC" (User Account Control) set of utilities.
They effectively prevent users and other programs (read mods and mod utilities), without appropriate permissions from altering those programs.
The most obvious solution to this issue is to turn off the UAC feature.
Unfortunately, turning off UAC also defeats many of Vista's built in (and very good) defenses against hacker and virus attacks.
NOTE, that with UAC turned off any malware attack, AUTOMATICALLY, has FULL administrative rights to your computer. This is not a good thing.
What's a gamer to do?
If you do want to turn off UAC, only do so if you have a hardware firewall, good anti-virus software, are paranoid about Internet sites, and are totally sure that no one else is going to use your computer. If your computer is in use by more than one person, then turning off UAC is a really bad idea.
Alternatively, install your games to somewhere other than the default location, ie C:\Games\ (or something similar), or, better yet, if you have the hardware, install your games to a seperate partition, or seperate harddrive.
For that matter, if your games are installed to a seperate physical harddrive (by this I don't mean an external USB drive) they will run better.
By doing this, you can leave UAC engaged, thus increasing your protection, and still enjoy the gaming experience with mods.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 12:26pm |
MaumPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | OK you made me.
I found a double pack on Amazon UK of Bioshock and Oblivion, both Vista compatible, for 12 pounds. Good deal?
Currently playing: Dragon Age Origins, Dishonored, The Witcher, Fallout 3, Deponia
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 12:55pm |
| Deleted User | Of course it's a good deal, Maum! If you don't already have Bioshock, grab it! Is it the Oblivion GOTY?
I'm not too sure if you'll like Oblivion that much, since you didn't like Morrowind (my personal fave of all time), but the dialogue did become a lot more close-up and personal in Oblivion, and it's all voiced, so you never know...
..and if you happen to not like it, we can always all blame Chris...
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 1:09pm |
MaumPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Not sure if it's GOTY, is there a difference?
It's not that I didn't like Morrowind- I spent hours exploring and the world was truly beautiful. The storyline itself was sufficiently intriguing but ultimately I found the game a little... cold. It's hard to describe- I was seduced but not involved (does that make any sense?).
Games like the Ultima series, and more recently the Witcher have such great characters that you meet and get to care about- that's what was missing from Morrowing IMO- and from Gothic 2 for that matter.
Currently playing: Dragon Age Origins, Dishonored, The Witcher, Fallout 3, Deponia
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 1:19pm |
SpiritogreIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Offline | The Bioshock/Oblivion Pack features only the orginal Oblivion without the addons. You can get Oblivion as single budget title for half the price of the bundle as well.
First I have to say that Oblivion in my opinion is the best single player game ever so far. Only Fallout 3 getting close to it by now. One of the reasons are the mods. When you play Oblivion you soon will start to add mods. I believe I currently have about 10 Gigs of mods installed for that game (and downloaded loads more).
I strongly suggest to get the GotY Edition! Especially since some mods require Shivering Isles, anyway. Also Shivering Isles is a wonderful addon. When you watch out you can get Oblivion alone for 10 Euro and Shivering Isles for another 5. That would be the cheapest way I can imagine. Usually Shivering Isles is more expensive, though.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 1:29pm |
MaumPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | I guess you get Bioshock as well...
Anyway just ordered Shivering Isles for 3 pounds.
Currently playing: Dragon Age Origins, Dishonored, The Witcher, Fallout 3, Deponia
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 1:37pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By maum (9 DEC 2009 1:28pm)
I guess you get Bioshock as well...
Anyway just ordered Shivering Isles for 3 pounds.
Well, in that case, you could just as well go for the Oblivion/Bioshock pack if you don't have Bioshock yet and fancy playing it. Talking of "cold" games, I must say I had found Bioshock emotionally rather cold, the bit of it I had played.
Of course, if you don't fancy Bioshock, perhaps Spiritogre can point you to one of the cheap editions of Oblivion he was talking about?
Can you remember where you saw it, Spiritogre? I feel rather sure i saw Oblivion as a budget title, but cannot for the life of me remember where.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 1:43pm |
MaumPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Thanks for all the advice. For some reason couldn't find Oblivion GOTY for less than 25 pounds. They had Morrowing GOTY for 3 pounds though Traveller...
Anyway I went ahead and ordered the Bioshock/Oblivion combo + Shimmering Isles. It costs me 15 pounds in total and seeing as Bioshock had rave reviews I thought it couldn't hurt to see what the fuss was about.
Currently playing: Dragon Age Origins, Dishonored, The Witcher, Fallout 3, Deponia
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 2:35pm |
SpiritogreIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (9 DEC 2009 1:37pm)
Well, in that case, you could just as well go for the Oblivion/Bioshock pack if you don't have Bioshock yet and fancy playing it. Talking of "cold" games, I must say I had found Bioshock emotionally rather cold, the bit of it I had played.
I'm one of the few people who were not so fond of Bioshock. I also got the budget version - by the way, Bioshock has a nasty DRM "protection", you can only install the game three times!
Of course, if you don't fancy Bioshock, perhaps Spiritogre can point you to one of the cheap editions of Oblivion he was talking about?
Can you remember where you saw it, Spiritogre? I feel rather sure i saw Oblivion as a budget title, but cannot for the life of me remember where.
Since we are quiete international here I could tell you where I have seen it but it probably wouldn't help. Since around here games are pretty expensive in general I simply thought that Oblivion is available as budget title elsewhere as well. Depending on who bought the licence in different packages, of course.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 4:59pm |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Welcome to the world of Oblvion, and I am very glad you took the plunge. You can add the Shivering Isles addon and the patches if needed and you will be fine. Check the threads on Oblivion we have here if you are interested in mods, they are very easy to install and add lots of fun and wonderful new quests, clothing, armour, custom horses , comapnions to play and fight with, huge new adventures and quests, thousands of add on houses, items and all sorts of goodies. Truely the Elder Scrolls games both Morrowind and Oblvion are wonders of community enhancement and Bethesda did us all a great gift when they put in the construction sets to allows us to mod and add to the games so easily and so well. That was a stroke of genius.
As for the emotional feeling of things, you can certainly be invovled with the main character who, as with Morrowind, you create and direct, and the story of the main quest. We advise to take your time and explore and get to know the world before following the main story that you will be introduced to in a wonderful way with a great character whose voice you will probably recognize and enjoy .....in the start, wander and grow and get to know the amazing world of Cyrodill, to orient you , the world you see in Oblvion is to the west of the world fo Morrowind, we dont reach Morriwind area proper in this game but some are adding it as a mod .... there are hundreds of people to meet, talk to, adventures of all kinds, cities, towns, villages, hamlets, havens, lost cities and ruins, dungeons and labyrinths of all sorts to delve into ....
Ob is a demanding game system wise, but if you have an older card or a slower system there are mods that can help enhance things with out much loss of quality and there are a lot of video features you can adjust and tune. Most modern computers run it fine, as it was designed for XP and some years ago now, so hopefully you will get to see all the beauty of this world, one of the most amazing yet created for gaming.
Enjoy and welcome
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 5:35pm |
| Deleted User | I see that I can purchase the GotY edition for a reasonable $20 but I'm not particularly fond of the DRM that comes with it. I guess the thing for me to to is to try and find the original edition and see if it works and go from there.
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| 9 DEC 2009 at 6:15pm |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Amazon has the original version, which is what i have, and it is quite reasonable in price and even cheaper if used in good condition from a reputable vendor, and Amazon is very good about support for any purchases.
http://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scrolls-4-Oblivion-Collectors-Pc/dp/B000BNKBCI
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 8:37am |
MaumPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | OK I am now getting rather excited at the thought of tyring this game! I was going to start Gothic 3 but am now thinking that it's better not to. I can't face 2 'big' RPGs at the same time.
Currently playing: Dragon Age Origins, Dishonored, The Witcher, Fallout 3, Deponia
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 8:45am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By maum (10 DEC 2009 8:37am)
OK I am now getting rather excited at the thought of tyring this game! I was going to start Gothic 3 but am now thinking that it's better not to. I can't face 2 'big' RPGs at the same time.
Well, keep us posted on how you go along, Maum! [smiley=hyper.gif]
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| 11 DEC 2009 at 4:41am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By CrisGer (9 DEC 2009 6:15pm)
Amazon has the original version, which is what i have, and it is quite reasonable in price and even cheaper if used in good condition from a reputable vendor, and Amazon is very good about support for any purchases.
http://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scrolls-4-Oblivion-Collectors-Pc/dp/B000BNKBCI
Thanks Cris, In this case though I have to give the nod to NewEgg as they are offering the Collectors Edition for $9.99 with free shipping. Done deal. Looks like I might be joining the newbies soon. On the other her hand I hope I can better manage those 'problems' I encountered playing Anachronox.
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| 11 DEC 2009 at 6:33am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (11 DEC 2009 4:40am)
Thanks Cris, In this case though I have to give the nod to NewEgg as they are offering the Collectors Edition for $9.99 with free shipping. Done deal. Looks like I might be joining the newbies soon. On the other her hand I hope I can better manage those 'problems' I encountered playing Anachronox.
...but weren't you also playing DA just the other day? Are you finished with that? Why didn't you visit us in our DA thread? I kept wondering how you were doing...
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| 11 DEC 2009 at 8:20am |
| Deleted User | Sorry, I guess I wasn't supposed to trouble you untill I wrang the bell. Obvious what you said earlier regarding the difficulty level does progress and now there seems to be this ogre dude that is hindering my rather pathetic team's progress. It's really been fun up till then. I just watched a couple of videos on youtube the other day that might help me figure out how to anniliate this battle boss. Tricky.
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| 11 DEC 2009 at 9:23am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Camaroboy1968 (11 DEC 2009 8:19am)
Sorry, I guess I wasn't supposed to trouble you untill I wrang the bell. Obvious what you said earlier regarding the difficulty level does progress and now there seems to be this ogre dude that is hindering my rather pathetic team's progress. It's really been fun up till then. I just watched a couple of videos on youtube the other day that might help me figure out how to anniliate this battle boss. Tricky.
Hmm- are you possibly talking about the ogre in the tower in the battle at Ostagar?
Well, firstly I would suggest you set your difficulty to "easy" ;if still too hard, there's a patch (1.2, I think it is?) that makes both "easy" and "normal" easier.
Use your mage to his full advantage; I cannot remember if that mage had any stun abilities, but between the guard (or do you have dog instead? Dog has some very useful stun abilities too) and Alistair, use shield bash on him to stun him as much as possible, then let the mage also do damage from a distance. What is your main character? A mage, warrior, rogue? It's rather important to jump out of the way of the ogre's "ram" attack - in fact, try and keep out of his way as much as possible, and try to attack him from behind in his vulnerable area, which is indicated by the black part of the circle that surrounds him. (That red marker circle)
Also, use health patches as soon as you see someone's health go below the halfway mark, even on Dog.
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| 13 DEC 2009 at 5:05pm |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | So, Camaroboy, did you get Oblivion? How about you, Maum?
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| 24 DEC 2009 at 4:36am |
| Deleted User | Sorry Halcyon, I did not see this earlier. Oh yes, I did purchase Oblivion, the Collectors Edition, based on CG's recommendation. Very nice package indeed. I am very interested in this new world experience and I am looking forward to venturing forth sometime down the road eventually. Right now though, the prospect of having two RPG type games running simultaneously might not be the optimal situation for me.
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