| 29 NOV 2009 at 3:56am |
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Status : Offline | I'm really enjoying following up and completing the minor quests now. Great fun.
So, how to you experienced folks gather enough gold to buy horses (again and again) and houses and expensive spells? I've got nearly 2,000 gold, but have earned it 20 at a time over many quests. o you horde stuff and sell it?
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| 29 NOV 2009 at 4:50am |
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Status : Offline | that is one way, and also some of the stuff you find in the ruined Alyried cities and dungeons is worth a lot, some of the crystals, but there are a lot of dangers down there too. so it is risky. just takes time, ....and selling things does help. Also some of the quests give good gold.
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| 29 NOV 2009 at 10:42am |
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Status : Offline | With more powerful enemies comes better loot, so the further into the game you get, the more money you will get.
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| 29 NOV 2009 at 11:35am |
| Deleted User | Yes, and as your skills increase, you will also find new ways to increase your income. For instance, in Morrowind, Oblivion's predecessor, I used to make sure I had a good mysticism skill, and then I would trap souls into empty soulgems to make tons of gold out of that. Sadly, they must have seen it as a bit of an unbalanced moneymaker, and the mechanics are not quite the same with enchantment and soultrapping in Oblivion, as it was in Morrowind.
Also, to add to what Fnord said, your enemies start wearing better gear and weapons as you level up yourself, so you could start wearing their armour and using the weapons you get off of them.
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| 29 NOV 2009 at 4:35pm |
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Status : Offline | Remember you can train and learn new skill levels from instructors you find in the game, watch for those optoins in the dialog options as you talk with people you meet, another reason to meet and greet as you travel about, or stay in inns. Those skills will help you defeat the stronger foes you encounter, and do always loot bodies and any available chests you find. Just be sure it is not stuff that belongs to someone if there are guards about or in town.
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| 3 DEC 2009 at 6:45pm |
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Status : Offline | I'm thinking of getting the expansion Shivering Isles from Direct2Drive. Anything I should watch out for? Is it worth it?
UPDATE: I realized suddenly that the DVD I bought contains both Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine. So apparently, I'm set.
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| 4 DEC 2009 at 4:28pm |
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There is a patch for Shivering Isles ...
i looked into that very odd SI world once and never went back, too creepy and dark for my taste completely, but there is enough in the rest of Oblivion to keep me very happy for years to come esp if you try some of the big and wonderful Quest Mods:
The Lost Spires
The Underdark
are two
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| 4 DEC 2009 at 5:15pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By TAS (3 DEC 2009 6:45pm)
I'm thinking of getting the expansion Shivering Isles from Direct2Drive. Anything I should watch out for? Is it worth it?
UPDATE: I realized suddenly that the DVD I bought contains both Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine. So apparently, I'm set.
Ah, good! That's why I asked you a while back if you had gotten the GOTY copy of Oblivion. KOT9 is nice in a conventional sense, while SI is for those who like something more way-out and alien, such as Sanitarium, for instance. Although I'd found a certain part of it was a bit too over-the-top with one of the character's callous cruelty, to my tastes, this is not more I suppose than you find in other games too, in general, and I did enjoy the off-beat weirdness that the rest of the expansion brought with it.
I had played the entire Oblivion plus two official expansions unpatched. What does the patch fix, Chris?
As far as I know you can do the expansions at any time. Once you have installed them they will become available - you just need to go to the relevant areas that will set them off.
They are fully integrated with the rest of the Oblivion World, although I had done mine after completing the main quest, so I'm not sure if it will interfere with the MQ or not. I doubt it though, I'd recommend your level to be quite high-ish before tackling NOT9.
Also, you forfeit your right to use your KOT9 nice set of armour if you turn " bad" so you have to be a goodie-goodie for KOT9. I found this out when i wanted to do some thieve's guild quests after doing KOT9. So, if you were planning to do the thieves and the Assassins, best do them before KOT9.
Though I found most of the Assassins jobs running against the grain for me, in any case, I must say.
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| 4 DEC 2009 at 7:04pm |
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Status : Offline | the Shivering Isles patch just fixes some stuff that showed up as bugs, but only install it after you install SI. SI is needed for quite a few new mods as they use the textures and some of the new models.
Ys, Knights of the Nine is pretty demanding so you should wait a while until you have a good level as Traveller advises. All of her advice here is good, i am conservative re creepy stuff..indeed i hated all the time i had to spend in the dark side of Oblivion but it has fun stuff for those who dont mind that side. My sharing is only my own opinion.
Also re the Knights of the Nine, there is a part of it where you need t
o help a farily large group of NPCs make a journey on foot, you should stick with them closely as they may get stuck behind fences...lol, and you may need to nudge them ie. push them in game with your character to get them around some barriers, esp near Skingard
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| 4 DEC 2009 at 8:20pm |
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Status : Offline | I just bought this DVD recently, as you know, and it must already be patched, yes? I did apply the Unofficial Oblivion patch, but not the SI one.
I'm not really enjoying SI. They force you to kill and it's, well, killing me. That's not why I'm playing this game. I could never be an assassin. I'm walking the fine line in my comfort zone as it is by killing monsters and crabs, but at least it's self-defense.
Anyway, I"m sticking with SI as long as I can. Not sure I can handle all that armor, etc., in KOTN. Never was big on all that, plus I'm claustrophobic! Still, I'll probably give it a try.
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| 5 DEC 2009 at 1:03am |
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Status : Offline | there is plenty other to do in Oblvion than SI, i did not do it for the same reasons, the killing is the least of my interests in that wondeful world, and as i set all the wildlife to peaceful and have a fast horse i can avoid most of the random attacks in the wilderness
but i am glad you are at least seeing it, ys DVD version with all should be patched up, forgot that you had that version . Enjoy. I am starting a new long deep quest myself, and was just in there warming up last night, had to get some new furniture for my apparment in the Imperial City as i am taking on a companion and she will want her own things. At least she comes with her own horse, so i wont have to buy another.
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| 5 DEC 2009 at 7:41am |
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Status : Offline | Ahhh, a woman with her own horse. What could be better?
After years of only playing non-combat AG's, I thought this would be a struggle. At first, it was an adjustment, to be sure, but after a couple of weeks now, I'm quite at home. I've settled in as Arch-Mage, but I get no respect. So I'm thinking of striking out. I really like the Fighters Guild quests--they are so grateful...and profitable. I'm only using the Console for "emergencies" to make life a bit easier.
I go back and forth between third-person and first-person. But I like that.
Thanks so much for recommending Oblivion. I'm hooked. As soon as I explore all the far reaches, I'll be reaching for the mods!
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| 5 DEC 2009 at 8:11am |
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Status : Offline | Congrats on Arch Magedom. Well done. Ys the Fighters Guild has some rousing quests. You can also try some dungeon crawling, and the Alyerid cities are a lot of fun to explore too. There are also hidden towns, villages, and other sites all over the map..which you can discover while exploring.
And the main quest awaits...with its fun too, .... i am glad you are enjoying it.
Ys, my companion is a remarkable one created by one of the mod masters, she is part of a large mod called the Underdark which adds an entire new realm to the world. There is much to discover ...., some of the quests you can find in the towns are quite a lot of fun too, there is a remarkable one in which you actualy get to go into a magical painting, as an artist, that was just a thrill and a half for me.
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| 5 DEC 2009 at 10:33am |
| Deleted User | Re the killing: I started off with Morrowind as my first RPG; - I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and although i never enjoyed gratuitous killing, you can actually fiddle around a long time in Morrowind without even having to kill in self-defense, though of course, if you really want to complete the entire game, there is a lot of killing to be done, mostly in self-defense.
I suppose one gradually gets used to the idea of having to defend yourself. This is why I never liked doing the Assassin's line of quests in either Mw or Oblivion, and its the only guild in Morrowind that I never became the leader of.
In Oblivion, Halcyon, like Chris mentioned, there are a lot of side-quests in every town that are fun to do. The painting one is in Cheydinhal - just speak to everyone about gossip and rumours, etc. There is another nice one in Cheydinhal involving a corrupt guard, which only requires stealth on your part.
Another quest that does not require any killing, purely sleuthing, is found in the castle at Chorrol.
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 2:30am |
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Status : Offline | Arrrrg, now I'm facing my most hated task of all....a timed sequence. I have to run through the Great Oblivion Gate in under 15 minutes. arn I hate these, especially since I am a rather low level, suck at combat, and have no major spells.
I've finished the Mages Guild and Fighters Guild, so it is either cavern crawling, turning assassin, or running a timed gauntlet. I'm kind of p.o.'d about this, but I'm sure I'll get it done after a number of tries.
I don't know about you, but I really don't like those Gates. First, I can't see well in first person and lose perspective in third person. Second, I get lost. Third, *(&^%$!
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 3:06am |
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Status : Offline | i HATE the gates, that side of the game i just gritted my teeths and drugded through, i was always SOOOO happy to get back to the REAL World. Good luck in there as i recall it is not that hard, i made it with about 10 seconds to spare : :-/
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 3:16am |
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Status : Offline | I will admit that each quest is not as hard as I imagined, but I rarely use a sword and rely mostly on my trusty staff and spells. Another great thing is that you can put it off and just go have some fun elsewhere.
I love how the random creatures in the world level up and become more dangerous. I'm thrilled with the rest of the leveling up bad guys, I'm currently looking at mods
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 6:54am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By TAS (10 DEC 2009 2:29am)
Arrrrg, now I'm facing my most hated task of all....a timed sequence. I have to run through the Great Oblivion Gate in under 15 minutes. Darn I hate these, especially since I am a rather low level, suck at combat, and have no major spells.
I've finished the Mages Guild and Fighters Guild, so it is either cavern crawling, turning assassin, or running a timed gauntlet. I'm kind of p.o.'d about this, but I'm sure I'll get it done after a number of tries.
I don't know about you, but I really don't like those Gates. First, I can't see well in first person and lose perspective in third person. Second, I get lost. Third, *(&^%$!
Well, I actually cheated with that last timed gate...
I chose to be a dark elf, that has Resist Fire 75% as a racial trait, which really helps a lot inside thise gates. When I saw I was trapped and could not jump far enough to get to other side of the lava for that timed gate, I added another 25% resist fire, to all add up to 100% resist fire, then I cast "water-walking" on myself, and went running over the lava. 8-)
It did actually afford me some damage, but at least it didn't mean death within seconds which is the case without resist fire...
Anyway, Halcyon - did you not consider joining the thieve's guild, and what about the arena? If you do well in the arena it spawns rather a nice quest with the champion there.
Oh, and have you done any or all of the Daedric quests yet?
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 8:00am |
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Status : Offline | Darn, Traveller, i have those to do too, the Daedric ones, from the altars in the wilderness, i think i did one but have the others to do. Those are such lovely rustic shrines. so much to do, so little time.......
good one , that fire resist idea!..
I just ran like heck and prayed a lot.
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 9:09am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By CrisGer (10 DEC 2009 8:00am)
Darn, Traveller, i have those to do too, the Daedric ones, from the altars in the wilderness, i think i did one but have the others to do. Those are such lovely rustic shrines. so much to do, so little time.......
NOOOOOOOOO!!!! You people are going to get me back on playing Oblivion again!!!!! ...and I was actually doing a Morrowind playthough somewhere in the background... [smiley=hair_pull.gif] not to mention NOTR and G3, and I have never even played those Vampire Bloodlines games yet, and I've been ill and busy and off gaming for 2 weeks now... and haven't even finished DA yet, and there's still Divinity 2 and Venetica on the horizon... :'( )
...anyway - yeah, the Daedric quests are fun, plus you get nice artefacts - that's how i found my pet unicorn, though i decided to keep him and ride him, not kill him for the horn for Hircine ; and he's such a wild'un, that it's hard to keep him from not running away or get himself killed attacking people and stuff...
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 4:01pm |
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Status : Offline | Yes, I plan to pursue those quests (not the assassins, tho). I can do that without being kicked out of the Mage's and Fighter's Guilds, right?
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 4:23pm |
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Status : Offline | yep, you can do any quests that dont violate the tenents of the Guilds.
wow!!! Traveller!!!! a unicorn!!! whoo hooo.
cant wait.
sorry about the swamped gaming schedule, but me too...
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 5:10pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By TAS (10 DEC 2009 4:00pm)
Yes, I plan to pursue those quests (not the assassins, tho). I can do that without being kicked out of the Mage's and Fighter's Guilds, right?
The thieve's quests don't require any killing as I recall, so they're nice from that POV. I never completely finished that line, because they wanted me to steal from the mage's guild at the very end, and I was also Archmage at the time, so it didn't quite feel, right; but i believe you can get away with it as long as you don't get caught.
In any case, you can do most of their quests without stealing from any other guilds. Also, it's fun to finally find out who the Grey Fox is...
Yeah, Chris, the unicorn is something else!
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| 10 DEC 2009 at 10:46pm |
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Status : Offline | The unicorn (I stole it from the ogres) was my "horse" for a while. It kept showing up everywhere...and attacking anyone with a sword out, even the good guys. I actually had to kill it at Waynon Priority to save lives--including my own. Still feel bad, tho.
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