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| 6 MAR 2003 at 4:04am |
GayleSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Good question.
If they all come out at once, then the consumer has to make a choice of which one to buy first unless the consumer has a lot of money.
I noticed last Christmas, which has always seemed to be as a time when they get a lot of games released in years passed, that there weren't many games out there.
I doubt if they do it on purpose. That is like playing Russian Roulette, praying that your game would be the one that would be picked out of a selection of good games all released at one time.
Usually I would like to see, the games spread out a bit more. However, right now I would be happy to see one good adventure game released instead of the release date keep being pushed back. The only two games that are probably going to be good is Omega Stone in a week or so and Runaway in April. The new Atlantis one might be good, but doubtful. So, right now there is no bunching of released games but can remember when that was the case.
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| 6 MAR 2003 at 4:38am |
StammerGuild Master
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Status : Online | yup you are right! I wonder this myself. I remember that they have released Diablo 2 and then Tomb Raider 4 or 5. This is simply 'crazy'. Plus that i don't want to play two games simultaneously!
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| 6 MAR 2003 at 6:51am |
| Deleted User | I don't think the game's industry really works to deadlines anymore - which is dangerous really. The old Unreal 2 idiom "it's finished when it's finished" seems to be bandied around too much nowadays... as does "first on X-Box" which has a LOT to do with PC releases like Splinter Cell being put back.
Sure, I'd rather have a game when it's finished, but surely companies can't really afford to put things back too far? As for Runaway, that sounds more like inexcusable marketing to me, and if I was GSC I'd think about what I was doing a bit more before throwing release dates into the wind....
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| 6 MAR 2003 at 5:30pm |
| Deleted User | Vorpax you're right. I still haven't bought a couple of games that was out end of last year because I'm still playing other recent bought games. I just htink that they want competition. IMO, it doesn't make sense releasing them at the same time all at once because if its going to be a great game, people would still buy it no matter what.Considered it's a good game though .
I bet there are a lot of games out this summer. As same as movie releases. It gets me confused sometimes. Having to pick randomly from a whole lot of selections. :-/
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| 6 MAR 2003 at 11:02pm |
JPSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | I'm not really sure I see what the problem is here?
I mean, surely its a good thing when a lot of games you want to play are released - it doesn't mean you have to buy them all, and if you do - you dont have to play them simultaneously!
I once bought 5 games in one week, only installing 2 of them, and there were at least 3 more that I wanted to buy. The only thing preventing me from buying them was the lack of money!
Buy the one you want to play the most and buy the others later - its not as if they wont be available at least for a year afterwards, and the chances are they will drop in price!!
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| 6 MAR 2003 at 11:52pm |
VorpaxSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Gayle (6 MAR 2003 4:04am)
The new Atlantis one might be good, but doubtful.
Do you mean the third one? Or is there a forth one I haven’t heard of?
Originally Posted By JP (6 MAR 2003 11:02pm)
I'm not really sure I see what the problem is here?
I mean, surely its a good thing when a lot of games you want to play are released - it doesn't mean you have to buy them all, and if you do - you dont have to play them simultaneously!
I once bought 5 games in one week, only installing 2 of them, and there were at least 3 more that I wanted to buy. The only thing preventing me from buying them was the lack of money!
Buy the one you want to play the most and buy the others later - its not as if they wont be available at least for a year afterwards, and the chances are they will drop in price!!
It’s not really a problem but here’s kind of what I mean
Games that look half descent to be released in the UK in March (not including PC or GBA)
Tenchu - Wrath of Heaven(came out yesterday)
Resident evil zero (coming out tomorrow)
Final fantast origins
Syberia
Metal Gear Solid 2 – Substance
Xenosaga
Devil may cry 2
Those are the ones at the top of my list all have good and bad reviews and I’ve played the previous instalments of the ones with series games so I know I like them so it makes the choice harder in away, but when I look at the months planed a head there is one game that could be good and that’s it. So no it’s not really a bad thing wouldn’t it make more sense to space them out even a bit?
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| 9 MAR 2003 at 11:54pm |
JPSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | I see your point Vorpax, but you'vee got to remember that these are all major commercial companies, all fighting to win our hard earned cash - they're hardly going to come to an agreement with each other and stagger their release dates - but they will all compete against each other for sales!
In retrospect, it would be an excellent idea ( as well as being good for the gaming industry in general), if all the software companies came to an agreement to release their games on specific dates, thereby enabling people who would otherwise have to make a choice between games to actually buy them all!
Then everyone wins - the software companies get their money, and we can aford to buy all the new release because they dont all come out at the same time!
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| 10 MAR 2003 at 12:07am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By JP (9 MAR 2003 11:54pm)
In retrospect, it would be an excellent idea ( as well as being good for the gaming industry in general), if all the software companies came to an agreement to release their games on specific dates, thereby enabling people who would otherwise have to make a choice between games to actually buy them all!
That however presumes that the software companies can stick to their scheduled release dates. There is no way that is going to happen
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| 10 MAR 2003 at 12:35am |
JPSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By MichalN (10 MAR 2003 12:06am)
That however presumes that the software companies can stick to their scheduled release dates. There is no way that is going to happen
Mmm - you're right, but it's nice to dream
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| 3 APR 2003 at 5:43pm |
Count StexIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Are we not making the asumption that games companies delibratly produce bad games and good games. Surley they just keep on releasing games as and when they are ready (or quite often before in the PC world!) and that a whole pile of 'must have' games come out at once is just down bad luck?
And as JP states, if you spread these games out, i.e. buy one, play it through, then buy another, not only do you fill in the gaps when there is nothing good about, but by the time you get around to some of them, they will be on budget saving you a whole pile of money in the process.
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| 3 APR 2003 at 7:07pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Yes Vorpax, I know what you mean!
Many times I asked myself the same
I guess it's tied to the released dates if this happens.
Many games at once in autumn, winter and especially on Christmas is not a rare thing to happen. Those are best times for business. But as Gayle mentioned, this can differ from one year to another. At least in the adventure genre, which is not the most popular at the moment. :
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| 4 APR 2003 at 12:12pm |
adventuredogGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Actually Vorpax - I think it is wonderful to have such a feast after a famine. I would rather have TOO many to choose from than the opposite. Then I feel that I truly have a choice and CAN pick and choose. As we know, even if there are many games out there they aren't all going to excite ALL of us.
I've played several games over the last few years that I would not have considered as my first choice if there had been more out there to choose from. Rather convoluted wording, but I hope you understand my point) I would rather play a good (but not great) adventure game than none at all.
I would find it a little frustrating though to have to choose what I bought and loaded first if I really wanted to play ALL of them like you do Vorpax. But again, what a wonderful situation!
Still adventuring after all these years!
Patiently awaiting The Last Crown: Haunting of Hallowed Isle, and Bracken Tor...
... and Asylum if it's not tooooo scary...
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| 7 APR 2003 at 10:03pm |
VorpaxSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Elfstone: yes what surprised me is that they were not released closer to Christmas since once that was the high time to buy them but I think since the game market is very popular right now and there is no best time to sell them as they know most will be sold.
As for adventure games I think it is slowly starting to get a footing again since I see more around then I did say a year ago...
Adventuredog: yes in away it’s good it is just the indecision that really bother me, but some of that was saved by two been delayed as weird as it sounds I was happy about it… but at lease the delay allowed me to find a copy of TLJ on Amazon. (If it ever feels like arriving that is it, think it ironic the first game I order from the net might never arrive lol)
So yeah, I will shut up and stop complaining now
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 6:01pm |
RismiIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | For me it's not really a problem (anymore). I don't think I will ever buy again a game when it's just released.
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Riven in the store for only 3 EUR. I think I payed it 10 times more... So now I just wait until the price is ok.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 6:03pm |
RismiIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | :-[Oops, and I will have to learn to read the other reactions.... I just saw that JP found out this trick too
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| 26 JUN 2003 at 1:37pm |
| Deleted User | There's another good side to this as well - if you aren't a very proficient adventure gamer, and you are forced to wait before buying, there may be more help available for you, or even a walkthrough. I've only been playing adventure games for a year and a half now, and while I'm definitely hooked, I'm still not very good at them. I started with Beyond Atlantis, which I loved, and went to The Longest Journey, whose tentacles are in my soul still, over a year later. In this past year I've gobbled up about 18 others as well. I'd like to cry when I read how many of you have finished games in a few hours, when I can count my time in weeks! But this is definitely my niche, and I will get better, with more practice.
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