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| 6 NOV 2009 at 12:19pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
Posts : 682
Joined: 16 OCT 2008
Location: PT
Status : Offline | guess who has started playing? Meeeeee
I picked an Human Mage, and have played for like 15mins (don't mock me... I have to balance it with university duties).
I have to say that character costumization is not that good... I'm sure it was a man who designed the make-up part... they have no idea what a eyeshadow is hehe (I know.. as if this was of any importance for the game). I also had a little bug where I couldn't change my character's eye colour... which for me IS a big deal... ill try later today to make another character to see if that problem stills occurs.
as to the game itself well, I don't have much to say seeing I have played close to nothing but I will update as soon as I play more
oh and for the brain that had the idea of spilling blood in character's bodies as if they were painters and are spilled with ink... it was just a bad idea.. ok?
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 1:14pm |
| Deleted User | I've also -just- started playing, and being a typical female like Inesrocks, I also spent some time on how my character looks (and now she looks not bad, I must say).
Bad news Ines - I couldn't change my character's eye-colour either. My Wood-elven warrior has black eyes, and that's it.
I haven't had any combat yet, besides a few wolves- ranged attacks had no blood tho, but I set the "perma" blood option off in the game options.
I must say that so far I'm finding the graphics rather flat and disappointing.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 2:10pm |
StilerJourneyman
Posts : 1458
Joined: 27 SEP 2004
Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | The eye color does change, you just.....can't see it tht well at all. I don't see why on earth they couldn't have moved the camera in close to your eyes and made the lighting so that you could cleary see the color.
You'll likely notice it in a few little sutscenes/dialogue when it's close up ony our character what color your eyes are.
I wanted blue for my guy but I think I ended up having a dark green'ish color.
I am playing two characters now (A mage and my warrior) and I really liked the mage intro, especially the "Harrowing" part of it, creepy.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 2:34pm |
| Deleted User | ...well, then I wonder what colour "my" eyes are...
Bbtw, does anybody know if loot generates randomly? So far, I've found magica potions inside wolves, health poultices inside monster spiders, and large health potion inside some kinda bear monster...
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 5:33pm |
ThaumaturgeJourneyman
Posts : 999
Joined: 11 MAY 2006
Status : Offline | Heheh, you remind me of a certain point in the relatively-recent Bard's Tale (that is, not the old game by that name), at which the narrator - who the Bard could hear, and fairly often, as I recall, interacted with - was somewhat... well, surprised, to have loot coming out of a wolf (I think that it was).
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
*ahem*
Sorry.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 5:54pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Thaumaturge (6 NOV 2009 5:33pm)
Heheh, you remind me of a certain point in the relatively-recent Bard's Tale (that is, not the old game by that name), at which the narrator - who the Bard could hear, and fairly often, as I recall, interacted with - was somewhat... well, surprised, to have loot coming out of a wolf (I think that it was).
I remember that clearly, and how amused I was by it. (There was money or gold or someting in the wolf) They also played around with a few other RPG conventions, and of course, put a twist on the "start with rats" RPG convention...
I never finished the game, because I hated the camera and controls...
I must say, that DA's controls are also currently frustrating me greatly...
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 7:10pm |
ThaumaturgeJourneyman
Posts : 999
Joined: 11 MAY 2006
Status : Offline | I'm sorry to hear about Dragon Age's controls - what is it that you find problematic, if I may ask? :/
As to The Bard's Tale, for some reason the pants are a prominent memory for me - in particular the "fancy pants" looted from certain metal men (if I recall them correctly).
Of course, little tops the trow coming to sing to you every so often, I think:
"Oh, it's baaad luck to be you!" ;P
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
*ahem*
Sorry.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 7:11pm |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Joined: 28 APR 2007
Location: US
Status : Offline | controls ....oh oh. sorry they are tricky.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 7:37pm |
| Deleted User | Well, re the controls - what frustrates me, is that there is no automatic mouselook.
Llike in Drakensang, you have to keep the RMB depressed to pan the camera. Unfortunately, the 'action" and "talk" and "attack" functions are all also assigned to RMB!
To make it easier on my hand and arm, I had tried sticking down the RMB with putty (Prestik), but then I cannot pick up stuff, etc. :'(
I've tried to remap the keys, but for some reason the mouse buttons are not assigned in the key mapping file.
:-/
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 8:32pm |
FnordSchattenjger
Posts : 2751
Joined: 15 SEP 2008
Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | The controls feel very "mmo", as they work the same way as those in say wow. The way that the basic MMO controls are set up basic mouse look is sadly not realistic.
I started of with a human warrior, but i'm finding myself controlling one of the mages most of the time. It is simply more fun to play, and the AI is quite capable of controlling my warrior (with a bit of AI tweeking, that is).
I'm not sure where this game will end up on my ranking, but one thing that I do like about it is that I die from time to time, and that it often is because I made some for of mistake (not the "you failed your death saving throw, your character is dead" kind of deaths that are common in Baldur's Gate (in particular 2)). Usually re-loading and trying a new tactics works, and I have yet to come across anything that has actually required a higher leveled party than what I have, as long as proper tactics is used (I did have some problems with the Lust daemon in the tower (you will find out what I'm talking about when you get there), but proper use of "kiting" solved that problem). It's always refreshing to find a game that rewards proper use of tactics, rather than character maximization & itemization or clicking speed, and that is a bit challenging (at least on normal).
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 8:52pm |
StilerJourneyman
Posts : 1458
Joined: 27 SEP 2004
Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | I can't stress enough how important it is to set up tactics for your characters, especially if you are playing on normal and above.
The tactics are extremely in depth and you can automate a lot fhe things you may be fumbling with trying to do in mid-battle that can lead to deaths.
They come pre-programmed with a tactic but you'll want to evolve/change it depending on the skills they have and what you are going up against. Main things are setting things like your characters to use health potions if their health = what you decide (I set mine to 20%) or to have your healer heal an ally if their health reaches a certain point. Then I have my tank (Allister) set to use taunt when an ally is engaged by an enemiy or to use his Shield cover if attacked from ranged.
So many options in there for things, it really helps cut back on micro-managing during combat and lets you focus more on your individual character and controlling him more.
Also if some of you may have forgotten spells are combinable and can interact with others/objects.
IE - using grease and then fire = a wall of fire that burns people around it.
Use blizzard + inferno + tempest = a huge storm that can obliterate a mass of enemies.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 9:33pm |
KarstenSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 347
Joined: 23 SEP 2006
Location: DK
Status : Offline | Rumours on the Bioware boards and elsewhere have it that you can re-assign to mouse control somewhere in the game's options menu?
I do agree that it is sort of annoying and irritating you the RMB is used to pick up stuff - and pan the camera...
On more general news for this game, there is oatch out for this game:
http://www.rpgwatch.com/#13701 (link to patch in this link)
The most important fix is the one that fixes the character's statistics from being corrupted.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 9:35pm |
ThaumaturgeJourneyman
Posts : 999
Joined: 11 MAY 2006
Status : Offline | Originally posted by Traveller
Well, re the controls - what frustrates me, is that there is no automatic mouselook.
Llike in Drakensang, you have to keep the RMB depressed to pan the camera. Unfortunately, the 'action" and "talk" and "attack" functions are all also assigned to RMB!
Aah, I see - I'm sorry to hear it. :/
I suppose that the intention is probably that one would pan the camera to the appropriate direction, then let go and click on the desired object - presuming, of course, that the latter doesn't activate the former by accident.
Nevertheless, it does seem as though it would call for a slightly more finger-strenuous experience, and potentially a less intuitive one. :/
I do hope that you get used to it.
Originally posted by Stiler
Also if some of you may have forgotten spells are combinable and can interact with others/objects.
IE - using grease and then fire = a wall of fire that burns people around it.
Use blizzard + inferno + tempest = a huge storm that can obliterate a mass of enemies.
Oooh - now this has my interest! Thank you for mentioning it. ^_^
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
*ahem*
Sorry.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 10:20pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
Posts : 682
Joined: 16 OCT 2008
Location: PT
Status : Offline | im at the mages quarters right now and I feel like I am playing a Harry Potter game
Just kidding.. anyway, the controls are a bit hard at first and remind me indeed of WoW, but as you keep playing you forget about it.
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 10:57pm |
StilerJourneyman
Posts : 1458
Joined: 27 SEP 2004
Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | It was the same as the controls in NWN1/2, etc wasn't it?
I know that if you push both Mouse 1 and mouse 2 you will move forward/turn your character with the mouse.
Controls feel normal/natural to me. I'm using w/s/a/d to move around and I generlaly pan the camera about as I'm moving to get better views and see things. If the camera was locked or such you may miss things.
I'm generally alwyas holding tab as well, this highlights interactable objects/loot/names so you can see things to pick up. Perhaps some of you aren't and that's why it's a pain? I could see how mo using over a lot of thigns while trying to also move would be if you don't ues tab/know about it.
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| 6 NOV 2009 at 11:54pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
Posts : 682
Joined: 16 OCT 2008
Location: PT
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Stiler (6 NOV 2009 10:56pm)
I'm using w/s/a/d to move around and I generlaly pan the camera about as I'm moving to get better views and see things. If the camera was locked or such you may miss things.
I play like that as well
I've already had to make some tough decisions in the game and im already feeling bad about it. you can't really be neutral, at least not in this mission, so I went to the "bad" side even though I didn't really want to. I hope there will still be an escape part in this quest before it ends lol
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 11:19am |
StilerJourneyman
Posts : 1458
Joined: 27 SEP 2004
Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | Is anyone else having problems with losing approval for Morrigian? She seems to not like helping anyone lol. I am a completionist when it comes to rpg's and I like to do all the quests, etc but everytime I "help" someone in need she disapproves.
On the other hand Allister, he is easily my favorite NPC so far. He is written very witty and you can joke around with him right back and he comes back with more and doesn't get pissed at you for it.
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 12:02pm |
FnordSchattenjger
Posts : 2751
Joined: 15 SEP 2008
Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | Morrigian can be tricky, but you can bribe her to be your friend. Give her things that makes sense to avoid simply getting +1 (she seem to like silver & books. Judging from her dialog I would have thought that she would like golden objects/mirrors).
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 12:28pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Thaumaturge (6 NOV 2009 9:35pm)
I suppose that the intention is probably that one would pan the camera to the appropriate direction, then let go and click on the desired object - presuming, of course, that the latter doesn't activate the former by accident.
Nevertheless, it does seem as though it would call for a slightly more finger-strenuous experience, and potentially a less intuitive one. :/
Well, since I need to be able to pan all the time, especially when moving forward using the W key, it really does become a bit strenuous permanently having to hold down your RMB.
I tend to abandon games which don't give me a "free-look" option while moving. It's the main reason I abandoned the recent Bard's Tale, and Dragonriders of Pern.
Gee, you other guys are already far ahead of me. I'm still playing around with the Origins stories.
Anyway, maybe a good thing; -perhaps you can give me some advice:
I'm not sure if I've just made a mistake. I'm using my main character, a warrior, as my tank, since I got a ranger and magic-user as auxiliary party members.
When leveling up just now, I vaccilated between starting the shield-skill range of skills or the dual-wielding range of skills, and in the end decided to go with dual-wielding, since I always find this looks very cool in combat.
Not sure if tactically speaking the shield-skills, like for instance shield-bashing would tactically have been a better choice; though I'm thinking that perhaps even when used as an offensive weapon, my shield would not have dealt as much damage and an extra sword would have, and converseley, I wonder if the extra sword aids at least a little in blocking?
Any thoughts?
Now what has made me even more unsure of the wisdom of choosing dual-wield vs shield, is that I saw in Stiler's post about tactics that you can actually use your shield against ranged attacks. This is one of the main problems for my tank - being hit by ranged shots.
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 12:59pm |
| Deleted User | Ok, because of the above considerations, I reloaded a save from before I leveled up. This time I also took note of the 2-handed skills, which also look enticing, since I've just picked up a greatsword off one of the darkspawn.
Anybody else playing a warrior who can give me some advice about leveling up choices here? :
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 3:41pm |
| Deleted User | Here I am with my old armour, back left,
[IMG]http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn305/jeniho/inruinsoldarm.jpg[/IMG]
and here with my new armour, far right.
[IMG]http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn305/jeniho/withkeepersmmler.jpg[/IMG]
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 4:02pm |
StilerJourneyman
Posts : 1458
Joined: 27 SEP 2004
Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (7 NOV 2009 12:59pm)
Ok, because of the above considerations, I reloaded a save from before I leveled up. This time I also took note of the 2-handed skills, which also look enticing, since I've just picked up a greatsword off one of the darkspawn.
Anybody else playing a warrior who can give me some advice about leveling up choices here? :
I'm playing as a Dual wield focus warrior. Mainly because of their dmg and combat focus.
With the other style sthe shield will logically offer you more defense (IE vs range especially) and the 2h offers more dmg per hit. However the dual wield is overall more dmg per second then the other styles and is much faster. You have more AOE type of attacks and also some good stuns/disables (IE Riposite/cripple).
As far as defense goes, while you don't have a shield a dual wield user should have a much higher dex then the toher styles (which focus more on STR instead) so youw ill have a higher chance to evadoe/dodge attacks outright then the others.
Stat wise I focus mainly on Str/Dex, then I focus on Stamina(forgot which it was that controls this, willpower I think?) and lastly constitution.
Going by the character statistics screens, in my party (Allister, Illelna, morrigan) I am the one who does the most dmg output of alll of them with over 47% of the party's avg dmg.
Do you use Allister in your party? I find that using him as the "tank" is a big help for me. I will generally send him in the front owhen we engage and have my guy go behind iand then keep the mage and Illena (rogue/archer) at a distance for their skills.
My character's armour:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/Stiler/das21.jpg[/IMG]
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 4:07pm |
FnordSchattenjger
Posts : 2751
Joined: 15 SEP 2008
Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | I'm running a warrior who uses 2handed weapons (call me silly, but I dislike dual wielding because of how hard it is in reality to make something like that actually work), with Morrigian, that healer that you get in the tower, and the rogue you get in the first village you visit after the origins story for human nobles. I don't really need a tank because the healer does a well enough job, Morrigian has a healing spell for backup healing (only 1 point spent in it) and my main character is quite sturdy anyway.
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| 7 NOV 2009 at 6:41pm |
InesrocksPrivate Detective
Posts : 682
Joined: 16 OCT 2008
Location: PT
Status : Offline | haha traveller your character looks somewhat like mine, except "I" am brunette
ill post screenshots later
Playing: Skyrim (ongoing)
Last Finished: can't recall, been too long.
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