Originally Posted By Dr_Watson (3 JUN 2009 7:17pm)
I believe you aren't ever shown the full gory details in real time as the murders take place (although there are some suitably disturbing sound effects) but I have only 'witnessed' the assault of Polly Nichols so I don't know how the rest goes. To be honest I wouldn't want to watch a blow by blow reconstruction of the carnage in Millers Court anyway  :'(

Originally Posted By TheTraveler (3 JUN 2009 9:32pm)
Are you spoiling the game for yourself now, by watching that w/thru, Steve?  

 That seems a bit of a shame...

Well, I must admit to not knowing much about Jack the Ripper at all, but after playing this game, I will be quite interested about reading more on the subject.

Well, all I will say at this point, is what Frogwares seemed to do was go through a few of the more obvious suspects and motives via using a process of elimination.

Aubstopper, you must be much more intelligent and more experienced than I, since I started feeling a bit exhausted by the puzzles coming rather thick and fast towards the end.  

 I mean - the game I had been playing - Dracula 3, - was like being pushed along in a baby stroller compared to quite a brisk trot with Holmes Vs Jack.  

Tsssk, tssk, and here such a lot of people were complaining that SH Nemesis was "too hard".  To me JTR felt about on par with Nemesis, but maybe it felt harder to me since I was really pushing myself for the ending.  (While with Nemesis, I was leisurely enjoying the ride and the humor.)  I had actually taken much longer to complete Nemesis than I had JTR, now that I think of it  - JTR has been one of my obsessive "must see the ending" playthroughs.

(Pant, pant...-actually just finished a few minutes ago...)

I must admit that I thought the ending had been masterfully done. I don't want to reveal too much in case of unspoilered people possibly reading, but... well, suffice it to say, although I had my doubts earlier in the game, the ending actually did hold suspension of belief for me, and even seemed plausible, - even possible...

Ok, and now please excuse me, while I go for a nice, long sleep.    

  [smiley=yawn.gif]   I'd missed a spot of sleep there with Jack and Sherlock...  ughh, my head is spinning....  

Originally Posted By TheTraveler (3 JUN 2009 9:51pm)
Maybe... I came to a stage where I would look at the screen, all bleary-eyed, and say to myself..- oh, no - another logic puzzle to wade through...  

   [smiley=rofl.gif]     I suppose "fresh and rested"  is the best way to play AG's.

Well, the puzzle that really scared me the moment I saw it, was the Civil War one.  I just told myself that I know nothing about the American Civil War, and promptly went out to get some help for that one.  Otherwise it was not really difficult, like in being stuck forever difficult, but one did feel at least some level of challenge with a few of the logic puzzles.  (Did I mention the Civil War puzzle?  

)

Oh, and there was a certain point, where I just KNEW I was looking for a plank, and there were a hundred planks lying around - but only ONE that Sherlock could pick up... - guess which plank it was? The plank that I for some reason did not notice!   :

   [smiley=laughing.gif]

...hmm- well, thank you- I will accept your explanation that I was simply tired and a little burnt out..  

Originally Posted By TheTraveler (3 JUN 2009 9:32pm)
Are you spoiling the game for yourself now, by watching that w/thru, Steve?  

 That seems a bit of a shame...

Well, I must admit to not knowing much about Jack the Ripper at all, but after playing this game, I will be quite interested about reading more on the subject.

Well, all I will say at this point, is what Frogwares seemed to do was go through a few of the more obvious suspects and motives via using a process of elimination.

Aubstopper, you must be much more intelligent and more experienced than I, since I started feeling a bit exhausted by the puzzles coming rather thick and fast towards the end.  

 I mean - the game I had been playing - Dracula 3, - was like being pushed along in a baby stroller compared to quite a brisk trot with Holmes Vs Jack.  

Tsssk, tssk, and here such a lot of people were complaining that SH Nemesis was "too hard".  To me JTR felt about on par with Nemesis, but maybe it felt harder to me since I was really pushing myself for the ending.  (While with Nemesis, I was leisurely enjoying the ride and the humor.)  I had actually taken much longer to complete Nemesis than I had JTR, now that I think of it  - JTR has been one of my obsessive "must see the ending" playthroughs.

(Pant, pant...-actually just finished a few minutes ago...)

I must admit that I thought the ending had been masterfully done. I don't want to reveal too much in case of unspoilered people possibly reading, but... well, suffice it to say, although I had my doubts earlier in the game, the ending actually did hold suspension of belief for me, and even seemed plausible, - even possible...

Ok, and now please excuse me, while I go for a nice, long sleep.    

  [smiley=yawn.gif]   I'd missed a spot of sleep there with Jack and Sherlock...  ughh, my head is spinning....  

Good Grief, how long did you actually play for? i though there would be 20+ hours of gameplay at least here..

The only question about the actual gameplay I have is how does the part with the 'Deduction board' work? Do you just slot bits of evidence into place until a 'conclusion' card appears or something? Couldn't quite follow that..

Originally Posted By TAS (4 JUN 2009 11:40pm)
Only one thing bothered me...as it always does with Sherlock Holmes mysteries.  What does Mrs. Watson think of her husband sleeping over at Sherlock's place all the time instead of coming home, and why does the Dr. do it?  

Originally Posted By Jenny100 (5 JUN 2009 1:31am)

Originally Posted By TAS (4 JUN 2009 11:40pm)
Only one thing bothered me...as it always does with Sherlock Holmes mysteries.  What does Mrs. Watson think of her husband sleeping over at Sherlock's place all the time instead of coming home, and why does the Dr. do it?  

Maybe it's her idea...

Originally Posted By TheTraveler (4 JUN 2009 7:10pm)

Good Grief, how long did you actually play for? i though there would be 20+ hours of gameplay at least here..

Roughly somewhere between 25 - 28 hours over 3 days. Admittedly, I was in my "Obsessive" mode, where I tend to push because I'm curious about an ending.

Or is the game appropriately disturbing, considering the subject?

And how can anyone moan about not knowing more about the Civil War?  Isn't that what a challenge is all about -- discover, learn, solve!  Geesh.  

Only one thing bothered me...as it always does with Sherlock Holmes mysteries.  What does Mrs. Watson think of her husband sleeping over at Sherlock's place all the time instead of coming home, and why does the Dr. do it?  On second thought, I don't want to know the answer....

Wow, Traveller. And I thought I was obsessive.  

As shooting practice, the detective adorns the wall of his baker street lodgings with "VR" - Victoria Regina - in bullet pocks made by his pistol.

Holmes has an ego that sometimes seems to border on arrogance, albeit justified. He takes pleasure in baffling police inspectors with his superior deductions. Holmes does not seek fame, however, and is usually content to allow the police to take public credit for his work. It is often only when Watson publishes his stories that Holmes's role in the case becomes apparent.[16]

Holmes's demeanour is usually described as dispassionate and cold. When in the midst of an adventure, however, Holmes can display remarkable passion. He has a flair for showmanship and often prepares elaborate traps and reveals to capture and expose the culprit of a crime, often to impress Watson or one of the Scotland Yard inspectors.[17]

The only woman in whom Holmes ever showed any interest that verged on the romantic was Irene Adler. According to Watson, she was always referred to by Holmes as "The Woman". Holmes himself is never directly quoted as using this term — even though he does mention her actual name several times in other cases. She is also one of the few women who are mentioned in multiple Holmes stories, though she actually appears in person only in one, "A Scandal in Bohemia". She is often thought to be the only woman who broke through Holmes' reserve. She is possibly the only woman who has ever "beaten" or outwitted Holmes in a mystery. However, it is important to note that Watson explicitly states, "It was not that he felt any emotion akin to love for Irene Adler."

Another point of interest in Holmes' relationships with women is that the only joy he gets from their company is the problems they bring to him to solve. In The Sign of Four, Watson quotes Holmes as being "an automaton, a calculating machine," and Holmes is quoted as saying, "It is of the first importance, not to allow your judgment to be biased by personal qualities. A client is to me a mere unit, -- a factor in a problem. The emotional qualities are antagonistic to clear reasoning. I assure you that the most winning woman I ever knew was hanged for poisoning three little children for their insurance-money..." This references Holmes's lack of interest in relationships with women in general, and clients in particular, as Watson states that "there is something positively inhuman in you at times".

owing to his "remarkable gentleness and courtesy in his dealings with women."

Holmes shares the majority of his professional years with his good friend and chronicler Dr Watson. Watson lives with Holmes for some time before Watson's marriage in 1887 and again after Mrs Watson's death. The residence is maintained by his landlady, Mrs Hudson.

Watson has two roles in Holmes's life. First, he gives practical assistance in the conduct of his cases. He is the detective's right-hand man, acting variously as look-out, decoy, accomplice and messenger. Secondly, he is Holmes's chronicler (his "Boswell" as Holmes refers to him).

Nevertheless, Holmes' friendship with Watson is undoubtedly his most significant relationship. In several stories, Holmes' affection for Watson - often hidden beneath his cold, intellectual exterior is revealed. In "The Adventure of the Three Garridebs", Watson is wounded in pursuit of a villain; while the bullet wound proves to be "quite superficial," Watson is moved by Holmes' reaction:

It was worth a wound; it was worth many wounds; to know the depth of loyalty and love which lay behind that cold mask. The clear, hard eyes were dimmed for a moment, and the firm lips were shaking. For the one and only time I caught a glimpse of a great heart as well as of a great brain. All my years of humble but single-minded service culminated in that moment of revelation.

Conan Doyle’s sleuth was an excellent amateur singlestick player, swordsman and boxer. However, his special skill was in the Japanese system of wrestling called ‘baritsu’, which he used to hurl his arch-enemy, Professor Moriarty, down into the swirling waters of the Reichenbach Falls

Two years later Conan Doyle published ‘The Adventure of the Empty House’ in which, by public demand, he resurrected the great detective in the collection of short stories, The Return of Sherlock Holmes, equipping him with a ‘knowledge of baritsu’ to [have] use[d]against Moriarty.

In the spirit of which, if you don't really look around Holmes' lodging too much you miss a nice little insider remark when Watson looks at the painting of the Reichenbach falls and says 'Ah Switzerland, such a tranquil civilised place,  I wonder if we will ever be so lucky as to go there?'.........