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28 FEB 2003 at 3:20pm

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I saw this posted on another site (Gameboomers) - See if you can figure out what the guy is doing... (Very clever)

Mind Reader

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28 FEB 2003 at 3:30pm

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I just did it and it was right.

Am not clever enough to figure out how he does it but will keep watching here  for when you tell how it was done.

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28 FEB 2003 at 4:19pm
Deleted UserI think that there are only 10 solutions.

First my outcome was 27 ((3+4)-7)
But 3+3 has the same outcome: 27
and 3+2 also has an outcome 27

And my next outcome was 72 (8+2)-10

So there are only a few (I'd say 10) real outcomes

Those 10 outcomes changes equaly, everytime you restart.

Changing those symbols only by the outcomes you know the answer is, makes it like he's of she's a wizard.



Very nice.

28 FEB 2003 at 4:48pm

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Your powers of observation are keen, your math however need's a little work...  


I thought how it was done was rather slick - a nice puzzle.

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28 FEB 2003 at 5:56pm

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Neat. The result can only be 18, 27, 36, 45, 54, 63, 72 or 81. And those numbers always have the same symbol. Not much mind reading there

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28 FEB 2003 at 6:02pm
Deleted UserActually, there are only 9 outcomes:

The numbers 10 - 19 generates the answer 9
The numbers 20 - 29 generates the answer 18
The numbers 30 - 39 generates the answer 27

...and so on. The last number is 81. As you can see, all are multiples of 9.

Why this is the case is easy to see if you use a little algebra:

Let's say the number you choose is of the form:

A * 10 + B

where A is any digit from 1 to 9 and B is any digit from 0 to 9.

Next, you subtract the sum of A and B from this number:

A * 10 + B - (A + B)

Removing the paranthesis gives:

A * 10 + B - A - B

which simplifies to:

A * 10 - A

which in turn simplifies to:

A * 9

So, the second digit doesn't matter at all! Your "secret number" will in fact always be the first digit times nine.

Try a few runs and you will see that the website always generates the same symbol for the nine multiples of 9. The rest of the symbols are generated randomly, including the "magic" symbol.

So, unfortunately, no mind reading there... :-/

28 FEB 2003 at 6:03pm

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Could someone please explain to me what i am supposed to do???



I find my symbol but it isn't the right one!!

soooo could you tell me the whole thing again???
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28 FEB 2003 at 6:56pm

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Aaaaaaaaaaah...I just figured!  

Ouch!

Symbols are generated each time you restart...ok, that pretty much explains the whole mind reading.  

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28 FEB 2003 at 9:51pm

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fooled me ...  

still gaming...

 


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1 MAR 2003 at 4:23am

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BUT......how does this site know what number you are even thinking of? If you do it in your head, how can it tell what symbol will turn out?

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1 MAR 2003 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted By Belinda48 (1 MAR 2003 4:23am)
BUT......how does this site know what number you are even thinking of? If you do it in your head, how can it tell what symbol will turn out?

No, it doesn't know! You think of any number between 10 and 99, but when you do the calculation you reduce the amount of possible numbers to 9, no matter what your original number was. As I explained earlier, it is the first of the two digits that determines what final number you end up with, as the second "cancels out itself" so to speak. Even if you have 90 numbers to choose from in the beginning, you will end up with onf of the numbers 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54, 63, 72 or 81. These numbers are always given the same symbol, so you're always going to see the correct symbol in the crystal ball. The rest of the symbols are generated randomly.



2 MAR 2003 at 6:17pm

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If you really want to know how it works, look here.  http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/psychic.htm

I love snopes.  


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2 MAR 2003 at 6:24pm
Deleted UserLooks a lot like my explanation.


Anyway, it surprises me that so many people doesn't get things like this. It doesn't take much knowledge of math do discover the trick. I've seen other examples of this in magician shows on TV, and there's always some calculation involved that reduces the space of choices to one or a few. No magic involved at all!

3 MAR 2003 at 12:44am

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Yes, the math makes sense...however, it still worked when I just randomly looked at a number and thought of it not doing any math....

...and then all of a sudden my webcam started to move and blink at me....


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3 MAR 2003 at 2:32am

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...and then all of a sudden my webcam started to move and blink at me....

Yep that's how is starts, and then before your know it your monkey starts smoking - :

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3 MAR 2003 at 3:05am

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or your alien...
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