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| 21 JAN 2009 at 2:45am |
MissBSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I must agree that this event is something that no one would have even imagined a few years ago!
The press over this is unbelievable! I hope he can live up to what's expected of him! Personally, I almost feel sorry for him.....quite a load to shoulder!
My name is Bethany and I'm the daughter of Gamergal/Michelle.
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| 21 JAN 2009 at 6:01pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I second Len's feelings about this event. It is nothing short of astounding when you think of it. It might be considered the end of the beginning of this country's journey towards fulfilling the promise of The Declaration of Independence of 1776: 'We hold these truth's to be self-evident: That all men are created equal'.
There has always been the spoken & unspoken claim (justified of course) of hypocrisy in the statement of the Declaration and the country's behaviour, particularly in its early history, but certainly in various forms up to the present. However, on the other hand, if one steps back and considers how young this country is, it is rather amazing progress. Think about this: An 95 year old man watching some of those crazy westerns (ie. cowboy movies) in 1955 would have been born at the beginning of the civil war and would have been 16 at the time of The Battle of The Little BigHorn of 1876 (ie. Custer's last stand).
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 21 JAN 2009 at 9:43pm |
| Deleted User | ~~ SirDave ~~... An 95 year old man watching some of those crazy westerns (ie. cowboy movies) in 1955 would have been born at the beginning of the civil war and would have been 16 at the time of The Battle of The Little BigHorn of 1876 (ie. Custer's last stand).
I of course am not as old as all that. I was born in January 1925, a few years before 'talking pictures', and both my late parents were boern in 1900 --- all of us in London (UK) and not in America.
But as a kid, our chief game was playing "Cowboys & Injuns". Revolvers & rifles were any pieces of wood or metal which resembled weapons.
Obviously, the goodies were the cowboys: And the baddies the "Red Indians" --- after all, they scalped white men on the rare occasions that they got the upper hand.
Most of the films we saw way back then drummed that message into our young brains.
Anybody here remember my childhood hero --- Tom Mix ??
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| 21 JAN 2009 at 10:29pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By LenG (21 JAN 2009 9:43pm)
Anybody here remember my childhood hero --- Tom Mix ??
Wyatt Earp died at 80 in 1929: Tom Mix was one of his pallbearers!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 22 JAN 2009 at 12:10am |
| Deleted User | Wyatt Earp died at 80 in 1929: Tom Mix was one of his pallbearers!
I didn't know that. Actually I had never heard of Wyatt Earp until very much later in life --- he's not a British 'celebrity' !!
But in the early 1930's when cinema was our main entertainment (no TV or Computers of course --- and not even much radio... and far from everybody had electricity in their homes !) Tom Mix was our superman !
For a 7 or 8 y.o. London town boy like me, riding & doing acrobats on his horse (not even an enormous number of motor cars around at the time), fighting the enemy, firing his trusty six-shooter and rfles & whatever, was the acme of heroics !!
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| 22 JAN 2009 at 9:11pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Hi Len -
I couldn't agree more that Obama's inauguaration as the first black U.S. president was a wonderful moment in America's history. It sends a powerful message to the world that we really can (sometimes) manage to rise above "petty" differences like the color of a person's skin. It has brought a renewed sense of hope to many of us who witnessed and supported this nation's civil rights movement. Now let's pray that the momentum carries us even closer to the promise of true equality for one and all.
On a completely unrelated issue, I am currently doing a pro bono job for a business client that has volunteered to create a special video tribute to this years's recipients of the AABGU David Ben-Gurion Leadership Award for their tireless charitable contributions to the Jewish community and the greater community of man.
In writing the script and various interview questions, I discovered just how hard it is to find reliable sources of proper English pronuciations of common Israeli words and names.
The one that seems to have eluded me completely so far is Sde Boker (alt. Sede Boqur), the kibbutz in the Negev Desert where Ben-Gurion lived out his life after serving as your first prime minister. It is also where these deserving recipients first met him in person - an event that served as a pivotal moment in changing the direction of their lives.
Could you please spell-out the proper phonetic English pronunciation of Sde Boker so I can converse with the interviewees without stumbling over it like a moron?
My sincere thanks in advance.
Cheers, Terry
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| 22 JAN 2009 at 9:17pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Originally Posted By SirDave (21 JAN 2009 10:28pm)
Originally Posted By LenG (21 JAN 2009 9:43pm)
Anybody here remember my childhood hero --- Tom Mix ??
Wyatt Earp died at 80 in 1929: Tom Mix was one of his pallbearers!
I loved the final line of narration delivered by Robert Mitchum in the film Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner.
"Wyatt Earp died on January 13, 1929. It is said that Tom Mix cried at his funeral."
Cheers, Terry
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| 22 JAN 2009 at 10:15pm |
| Deleted User | With great pleasure Terry.
Sde is pronounced SD-EH -- I don't recall a word in English starting with SD but it's exactly the same as ST (eg sticck) with a D taking the place of the T (no gap between the 2 letters).
The EH is exactly the same as eh or hey or hay in English. No gap between the Sd and the eh.
I suuppose on 2nd thoughts you might say that it's pronounced exactly the same as the English word "say" with a "d" inserted betwee the "s" & the "a".
Bertter still on 3rd thoughts --- the English "stay" with the "t" replaced by a "d."
Boker --- The BOK is pronounced exactly as in LOCK with the "l" re[aced with a "B" ----- or "block" without the "l"....
and the ER rhymes with air. There is no gap between the 2 syllables.
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| 22 JAN 2009 at 11:25pm |
| Deleted User | Seeing as how this Forum caters (amongst other things) for trivia and personal reminiscences :-
In the summer of 1981 all our 3 children were married or about to be, so I took a Sabbatical, and my wife & I took a plane to Los Angeles (LAX --- where we've been a few times since), bought a ramshackle old station wagon from a dealer (a crazy thing to do) and embarked on a 4 month tour of the northern part of USA. We finished up at Long Island with one of my 16 first cousins,, a quite brilliant micro-biologist (or was it bio-chemist --- I never remember to distinguish between the two) at the world famous Cold Spring Harbor Labs then directed by J. D. Watson the controversial co-Nobel Prize Winner of “Double-Helix” fame.
Despite the fact that we motored a few thousand miles, which was very tiring, staying at camp sites or cheap motels --- you can’t cover the USA in 4 months or probably not in 4 years.
On the West coast we only got as far North as San Francisco, and in the South Boulder Dam, Las Vegas, San Diego and Tijuana.
On the East coast, Niagara and Toronto in the North and Washington in the South.
On our journey we visited so many famous places and scenic vistas. Among them we stopped at Tombstone and witnessed the reenactment of the “Gunfight at OK Corral” --- and it was there I think, 27½ years ago, that I first heard the name Wyatt Earp.
I subsequently learned that his (second) common law wife Josephine (Josie) Marcus who lived with him for 46 years, was heartbroken when he died in 1929. She had him cremated and buried him in her family’s Jewish cemetery in California, and 15 years later she herself was cremated and buried alongside him.
Thinking on the USA today, it is almost impossible for me to realize that folks like the Earps and many more were going around pistol packing & worse, less than 120 years ago !!
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| 23 JAN 2009 at 12:56am |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Much thanks Len, your help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers, Terry
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